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Unread 01-30-2012, 08:04 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Re: how to spot a fake custom?

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It's fake. Save yourself the trouble kids...just figure that ALL the Gibson LP's on CL are fakes. You will be much better off.
I'm sure glad I don't follow that advice. I've gotten some great deals on Les Pauls off of CL...
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Re: how to spot a fake custom?

I've seen that serial# on at least 50 different Les Pauls.
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Unread 01-30-2012, 08:08 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Re: how to spot a fake custom?

you can find good deals from people on craigslist- it's just now that the fakes are getting harder to spot- and some people are dis honest :
at least if you are unsure take it to a gibson dealer to get them to make sure it's authentic and go from there....make sure you find out if they can tell fakes
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Re: how to spot a fake custom?

loucamaro91 posted this find in July 2010. Note that the serial on the OP's CL guitar is on this list twice, LP Custom and SG Standard.

00170424 Confirmed Clone Les Paul - recorded on Sunbursts and Gold Tops Embossed 00170427 Confirmed Clone 1957 Les Paul Junior Embossed
041775 Confirmed Clone Sold as Epiphone Embossed
8015564 Confirmed Clone Les Paul Black Beauty 3 PU Embossed
017160627 Confirmed Clone Epiphone SG-400 Embossed
02005564 Confirmed Clone Les Paul Ace Frehley Embossed
01433946 Confirmed Clone Les Paul 1957 Gold Top Embossed
017160487 Confirmed Clone Les Paul Custom Embossed
CS50723 Confirmed Clone Les Paul Custom Printed
00170434 Confirmed Clone Les Paul Slash Embossed
02005558 Confirmed Clone Les Paul Custom Embossed
02005558 Confirmed Clone Les Paul Supreme Embossed
02005559 Confirmed Clone Les Paul Custom Embossed
017160456 Confirmed Clone Les Paul Custom Embossed
ZW0183 Confirmed Clone Les Paul Zack Wylde Printed
08015560 Confirmed Clone Les Paul Custom Embossed
02005556 Confirmed Clone Les Paul Custom Embossed
59092648 Confirmed Clone Les Paul Studio Embossed
02260728 Confirmed Clone Hollow Body Jazz 3 P-90 Pus Embossed
00170423 Confirmed Clone Les Paul Standard Embossed
08008067 Confirmed Clone Les Paul Gold Top Embossed
02260558 Confirmed Clone ES-335 TDSV Bigsbly Embossed
02005568 Confirmed Clone ES-335 Bigsby Embossed
02005558 Confirmed Clone Les Paul Custom Embossed
02005611 Confirmed Clone Les Paul Supreme Embossed
00170424 Confirmed Clone Les Paul Standard Embossed
00170424 Confirmed Clone Les Paul Standard Embossed
02005559 Confirmed Clone SG Standard Embossed
00170424 Confirmed Clone Les Paul Classic Embossed
8015564 Confirmed Clone Les Paul Peter Frampton 3PU Black Beauty Embossed
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Re: how to spot a fake custom?

I don't know a lot about fakes. But I do remember seeing something about the Custom Diamond Decal in the headstock. On fake Customs it is a fair bit smaller than the real ones.

Here is the pic saw



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Re: how to spot a fake custom?

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don't buy any Gibson Les Paul's on CL
CL is no more "dangerous" than any other classified/auction site, so it's not really fair to spread this kind of ridiculousness.

It all boils down to doing a little research, knowing what to look for, and as with ANY used purchases, practicing a little thing I like to call "BUYER BEWARE".

You forget, if it weren't for CL, I wouldn't have this:
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CL is no more "dangerous" than any other classified/auction site, so it's not really fair to spread this kind of ridiculousness.

It all boils down to doing a little research, knowing what to look for, and as with ANY used purchases, practicing a little thing I like to call "BUYER BEWARE".

You forget, if it weren't for CL, I wouldn't have this:
http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/y...7/DSC01479.jpg
I hate to say it, but those knobs don't look like they line up ...
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Re: how to spot a fake custom?

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I hate to say it, but those knobs don't look like they line up ...


Try looking at it with your eyes UNcrossed!
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Re: how to spot a fake custom?

Pull off the stopbar and bridge and look underneath. Look at the wiring and the components. Pull the pickups and see what's stamped into the bottoms. Photograph everything. Finally, send those photos to Gibson. They'll be thrilled to help you out on this. They hate the fakers. -Rod-
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Re: how to spot a fake custom?

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That just tells you that you have a legit Serial Number. Not a legit Guitar.
Duly noted, but he's selling it as a 2010
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Unread 02-03-2012, 11:43 AM   #44 (permalink)
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Re: how to spot a fake custom?

It might be a chinese copy. Theyre always about 750 dollars.

But its definitely a copy.
Also, a Gibson LP Custom would be around 3000 dollars. Do the math.

- The Headstock looks weird, the truss rod cover shouldnt be so close to the nut and the shape of the trc is not right.
- The binding over the tip of the frets is not there.
- The shape of the body is weird, mostly around the toggle switch.
- The knobs are a bit off.
- The bridge and stopbar dont have the right distance between each other.
- The bridge looks like that from an Epiphone (a bit thinner than the Gibson original ToM's, either Nashville or ABR-1).

Just out of curiosity, you should ask the guy for a picture of the wiring. An original Gibson would come with an immaculate wiring (like the picture I attached here), with nice potentiometers and capacitors, plate under the pots, understandable wiring, proper grounding cables and paint, etc. Most gibson copy makers dont put much attention to the quality of the wiring. They usually put mini pots, black "pseudo grounding paint", crappy capacitors, etc.

Long story short, get away from that "Gibson LP Custom".

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Re: how to spot a fake custom?

I bought my Les Paul Custom off craigslist. I had a guy doing a setup on my acoustic take a look at it, because he was suspicious. After about ten minutes of checking it over and making me sweat, he called me a lucky bastard. Whew.
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Re: how to spot a fake custom?

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C'mon Brit, they're not all fake but you do have to be careful. This particular one has the ever present metric bridge and wonky serial #.



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Re: how to spot a fake custom?

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I called a local about a les paul for sale on CL. he didn't seem to know much about it...

there were a couple things that just don't smell right... the 'Gibson' name didn't look right... but that could just be me not knowing...

it had the custom diamond, and custom truss rod cover, but the hardware was silver and the fretboard was rosewood...

how can I, as a novice tell if it's real?

I don't want to insult the guy, it's a gorgeous guitar, but I don't want to pay for a real gibson and get a fake(if I pay for a fake and get it, that's fine )

here's the pic of the headstock:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-o...sale%2B025.jpg
Insult him all you want. The guy is a thief. Also report it to CL and to Gibson.
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Proof enough, or just coincidence?
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This guitar passed! It's action packed with the indicators of a fake.
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Insult him all you want. The guy is a thief. Also report it to CL and to Gibson.
should have done it one year ago.....
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Re: how to spot a fake custom?

Really no need to go any further here.
It's dead nut bogus...end of story.
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Re: how to spot a fake custom?

Those serial numbers are a DEAD giveaway! I am by no means a fake expert but it's painfully obvious sometimes!
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Re: how to spot a fake custom?

Screaming "Fake" - From the nibs to the bridge and more.
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It might be a chinese copy. Theyre always about 750 dollars.
Are you serious? For that amount of money, here in Shanghai, I could get you five of those fake Les Pauls the OP posted. . . and still have some cash left
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Really no need to go any further here.
It's dead nut bogus...end of story.
The story was over a year ago.
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Re: how to spot a fake custom?

Yes,a fake!

Sticker at the cavity-plate was the the first giveaway,cutaway does not seems right,The bridge (which looks to be mounted backwards),is to far distance from the stop-tail,the split-diamond on the headstock ain`t pointy and sharp like a real logo !

-btw,here`s a small photo of a fret end nib !
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