I had an accident :(

MenaceMartin · 08-26-2008, 06:07 PM

Hey peeps. Today has been quite a jinxed day for us in this house. First off, the glass door on our new oven shattered, my brothers car broke down, my dads pc is acting up,

and... worst of all!...

My pride and joy, my Gibson Les Paul Menace, fell over whilst on it's stand and collided face first with the laminate flooring

This resulted in a series of cracks, splits, and cursing (from me).

I instantly had to remove the strings as the tension was almost tearing the headstock completely off. Some pics are below, though the true extent of the cracks are pretty severe, right down to the truss rod

Is this fixable? Is the guitar now ruined? I'm taking her into the shop 2moro to see if anything can be done... i'm not expecting it to be cheap at all, though with this money is no object. I now wish i took that darn insurance cover that i'd seen advertised...

(not to mention my saving up for a BFG will have to be called off)

I may cry myself to sleep tonight

Boleskinehouse · 08-26-2008, 06:08 PM

That sucks, but not to worry. It CAN be fixed. Better than new!

loverockkid · 08-26-2008, 06:09 PM

THATTT SUCKSSSSSSSSSS dude im do sorry for you today was a bad day 4you...Hope tomarrow is far better 4 you....man thats bad..i wana cry.....

AXE · 08-26-2008, 06:09 PM

Bloody Ell mate .

LongBeach · 08-26-2008, 06:17 PM

doesnt look like the split ran too far down the neck.
Like Bole said, I believe the fix is suppose to be better than
no fix? go figure?

MenaceMartin · 08-26-2008, 06:17 PM

lol, i'll have to think about that one haha. Thanks for the replies peeps

Here's hoping tomorrow isn't as bad!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boleskinehouse

That sucks, but not to worry. It CAN be fixed. Better than new!

Cheers

I needed the reassurance lol. As soon as i heard the *clatter* i felt like crying

Snowy72 · 08-26-2008, 06:28 PM

Sitting here cringing looking at those pix, looks a sore one

I see you're in Glasgow, I hear the tech at GuitarGuitar is very good, his name is Billy. I hope you get it fixed, good luck.

***b-squared*** · 08-26-2008, 06:29 PM

Very fixable. I'm sure you have a host of luthiers up there that will fix you right up.

BB

Mikeeeeh · 08-26-2008, 06:32 PM

Ouch man... not a good day indeed...

But as the guys were saying... there be skilled peoples around who can make her as good as new! Best of luck with the repair job!

stryker59 · 08-26-2008, 06:39 PM

oh man! i feel your pain!!! my classic took a tumble from the stand and cracked the headstock! i didnt know whether to curse or cry!! but its been fixed for a few months now and is as good as ever!! good luck!!!

Androo · 08-26-2008, 06:45 PM

Ahh poor you. I really feel for you. Keep us posted if you fix it.

R9. · 08-26-2008, 07:03 PM

Geez...I don't know what I'd do if that happened to mine.

Adwex · 08-26-2008, 07:30 PM

I'm no expert, but it looks like it's pretty fixable.

jkinnison90 · 08-26-2008, 07:33 PM

Definitely fixable.

myinstrument · 08-26-2008, 07:33 PM

these things are so prone to neck and headstock breaks that most luthiers ive chatted with view this repair as second nature. she'll be better then new when repaired.

Texas07R8 · 08-26-2008, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by myinstrument

these things are so prone to neck and headstock breaks that most luthiers I've chatted with view this repair as second nature. she'll be better then new when repaired.

That's right, better than new because the repair is typically much stronger than the original. I'm no luthier but I've seen these type of repairs fixed in a few hours or less and don't recall any re break or otherwise be a problem.

My old 69 SG has a repair similar to yours but not as bad, it was professionally repaired 20-25+ years ago and it's plenty strong and at certain angles you can't even see the repair and that's on a stained body, if it's black you couldn't see it, feel it or tell any difference in tone or playability!
The repaired neck has fared better than the fretboard, it's got some wear grooves in the fretboard from 40 years of playing.

Voxman23 · 08-26-2008, 08:30 PM

it'll be good..take it to a good luthier and it''ll be better than new

MrWrong · 08-26-2008, 08:39 PM

It's fixable by a good luthier, a Menace probably ought to have a few cracks in it.

Last · 08-26-2008, 09:10 PM

Man I feel for you. What a day for sure.

I had a BFG fall onto a slate floor. Slide off a table it was just leaned against.

I was extremely fortunate though I surely did not feel that way at the time.

Since it wasn't strung at the time. The only damage was two top hat control knobs were broken. I just bought them though to replace the wooden ones used on the BFG's.

I can clearly see that having a strung guitar take a dive like your's or mine did that the damage to the headstock fracture greatly relies on the fact whether or not there is string tension on it.

I'd never thought about it till now though. If it were unstrung it probably wouldn't have broken like this. But, hell, what are the odds that it won't be strung when it falls?

I'm very sorry to see your baby hurting so badly. It is (as already mentioned above) very fixable.

Best of luck to you & your repair job. I'm sure a competent Luthier can do an excellent job of it too.

dennistruckdriver · 08-26-2008, 09:39 PM

The satin black finish will probably help mask the repair job. Good luck. I'd cry.

guitarfish · 08-26-2008, 09:42 PM

You have my sympathies too man. I'd be ill for days if it happened to me. But like everyone said, fixable for sure. And I bet they can cover it pretty good with the black too, as opposed to a lighter translucent finish.

djwilbanks · 08-26-2008, 09:44 PM

nooooooooooooo!!!

Don't worry though, BFG will be put off a couple of months, but the Menace can be saved.

HungryBenji · 08-26-2008, 09:55 PM

Damn...that sucks....don't worry though. My 1st Les Paul is a 1988 Standard, I bought in 94 with a repaired headstock. It was repaired and resprayed by a pro......it is the best playing Les Paul I have touched. Just find a luthier that is experianced and you should have no problems.

Last · 08-26-2008, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HungryBenji

Damn...that sucks....don't worry though. My 1st Les Paul is a 1988 Standard, I bought in 94 with a repaired headstock. It was repaired and resprayed by a pro......it is the best playing Les Paul I have touched. Just find a luthier that is experianced and you should have no problems.

Damn! That's an incredible repair job right there! I'll bet it's even stronger than before it broke.

Wow! Now there's someone with some talent & skills.

Robster · 08-26-2008, 10:53 PM

That's not as nasty as it looks. It can be fixed.

R

Adamtheloud · 08-27-2008, 02:26 AM

Some drunken jerk at a bar I was playing at stumbled up to the stage to request a song, and kicked my 96 Les Paul Special off the stand off the stage and onto the floor. Took the head stock clean off!

Took it to my guy on the edge off a breakdown and he said "wow I just ordered some TV yellow (my colour) for a project I'm working on!".

The repair is perfect, completely undetectable. He glued it and reshot the top of the neck and its like it never happened.

I know how you feel man, it was a sad day for me too. That guitar is my No.1. But it worked out. It will for you too.

Belzeebub · 08-27-2008, 02:45 AM

BCRGreg or Roman could fix her up good as new.

alligatorbling · 08-27-2008, 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Belzeebub

BCRGreg or Roman could fix her up good as new.

yep, they do amazing work with headstock repair... yours would be childs play for them compaired to some of the pics of repairs ive seen done by them

D4ngerboy · 08-27-2008, 02:51 AM

i feel ya man... i dropped my epi lp (which had alot of sentimental value to me) and all i busted was a tuning button.. but i felt so bad that day.. like i hard hurt her. dont worry man shell get fixed!!

Vintage_Burster · 08-27-2008, 03:53 AM

Ouch,

Just think of what its gonna be like after its fixed. Bad ass, its a Mence with scars. What more could you ask for?!

(A guitar with no broken headstock? Im beat.)

08-26-2008, 06:07 PM	#1 (permalink)
MenaceMartin Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Glasgow, Scotland, UK. Posts: 1,832 Thanks: 23 Thanked 16 Times in 6 Posts	I had an accident :( Hey peeps. Today has been quite a jinxed day for us in this house. First off, the glass door on our new oven shattered, my brothers car broke down, my dads pc is acting up, and... worst of all!... My pride and joy, my Gibson Les Paul Menace, fell over whilst on it's stand and collided face first with the laminate flooring This resulted in a series of cracks, splits, and cursing (from me). I instantly had to remove the strings as the tension was almost tearing the headstock completely off. Some pics are below, though the true extent of the cracks are pretty severe, right down to the truss rod Is this fixable? Is the guitar now ruined? I'm taking her into the shop 2moro to see if anything can be done... i'm not expecting it to be cheap at all, though with this money is no object. I now wish i took that darn insurance cover that i'd seen advertised... (not to mention my saving up for a BFG will have to be called off) I may cry myself to sleep tonight __________________ ♫ Eyes over easy... EAT IT! EAT IT! EAT IT! ♫

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Boleskinehouse V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Next to Raleighwood Posts: 17,717 Thanks: 63 Thanked 506 Times in 90 Posts	Re: I had an accident :( That sucks, but not to worry. It CAN be fixed. Better than new! __________________

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LongBeach Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Long Beach Ca. Posts: 7,051 Thanks: 7 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: I had an accident :( doesnt look like the split ran too far down the neck. Like Bole said, I believe the fix is suppose to be better than no fix? go figure?

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08-26-2008, 06:28 PM	#7 (permalink)
Snowy72 Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Scotland Posts: 27 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: I had an accident :( Sitting here cringing looking at those pix, looks a sore one I see you're in Glasgow, I hear the tech at GuitarGuitar is very good, his name is Billy. I hope you get it fixed, good luck.

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*b-squared* 'MLP Mid-West' Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: About 15 minutes from the LOU...(STL) Posts: 12,157 Thanks: 270 Thanked 187 Times in 28 Posts	Re: I had an accident :( Very fixable. I'm sure you have a host of luthiers up there that will fix you right up. BB __________________ I use: WB Custom Pickups--6707 VTP/VTPH, 5707 Prototypes, Habaneros, Firewaters DeTemple 'Sweet Spot' Pickups (Strat) RS Guitarworks Electronics Jonesy's Caps

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Mikeeeeh Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Wexford, Ireland Posts: 936 Thanks: 1 Thanked 8 Times in 2 Posts	Re: I had an accident :( Ouch man... not a good day indeed... But as the guys were saying... there be skilled peoples around who can make her as good as new! Best of luck with the repair job! __________________ Did you see the Sun outside today? Burning the bridges I built yesterday! Proud member of Ireland's ShamROCKers!

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stryker59 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: staunton, va Posts: 3,316 Thanks: 21 Thanked 3 Times in 1 Post	Re: I had an accident :( oh man! i feel your pain!!! my classic took a tumble from the stand and cracked the headstock! i didnt know whether to curse or cry!! but its been fixed for a few months now and is as good as ever!! good luck!!! __________________ *you've been weighed, measured, and found wanting!*

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Androo Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 836 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: I had an accident :( Ahh poor you. I really feel for you. Keep us posted if you fix it. __________________ Guitars: '08 Gibson Slash Signature Les Paul Standard; '02 Ibanez RG250E; Amp: Fender FM212R Twin-Amp; Effects: KRANK Distortus Maximus; Zoom DX-(something); MyLesPaul Rist Guitar Raffle!

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Adwex V.I.P. Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 1,707 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Re: I had an accident :( I'm no expert, but it looks like it's pretty fixable. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/MarshallLesPaul http://www.marshallforum.com

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jkinnison90 Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Nelsonville, Ohio Posts: 1,379 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: I had an accident :( Definitely fixable. __________________ 2003 Epiphone Les Paul Standard - Heritage Cherry Sunburst

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myinstrument Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: maine Posts: 544 Thanks: 1 Thanked 20 Times in 2 Posts	Re: I had an accident :( these things are so prone to neck and headstock breaks that most luthiers ive chatted with view this repair as second nature. she'll be better then new when repaired. __________________ run around with your arms out. it'll make it harder for them to throw the net over you.

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Last Master Crafter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: St. Louis, MO. USA Posts: 3,463 Thanks: 172 Thanked 50 Times in 26 Posts	Re: I had an accident :( Man I feel for you. What a day for sure. I had a BFG fall onto a slate floor. Slide off a table it was just leaned against. I was extremely fortunate though I surely did not feel that way at the time. Since it wasn't strung at the time. The only damage was two top hat control knobs were broken. I just bought them though to replace the wooden ones used on the BFG's. I can clearly see that having a strung guitar take a dive like your's or mine did that the damage to the headstock fracture greatly relies on the fact whether or not there is string tension on it. I'd never thought about it till now though. If it were unstrung it probably wouldn't have broken like this. But, hell, what are the odds that it won't be strung when it falls? I'm very sorry to see your baby hurting so badly. It is (as already mentioned above) very fixable. Best of luck to you & your repair job. I'm sure a competent Luthier can do an excellent job of it too.

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dennistruckdriver MLP Trucker Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 15,640 Thanks: 233 Thanked 273 Times in 59 Posts	Re: I had an accident :( The satin black finish will probably help mask the repair job. Good luck. I'd cry. __________________ "I'm male, between the ages of 18 and 49 with a loud mouth and a gun; I AM the American Dream"-Anthony DiNozzo "I've never used one, but I hear good things about them."

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guitarfish Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,198 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Re: I had an accident :( You have my sympathies too man. I'd be ill for days if it happened to me. But like everyone said, fixable for sure. And I bet they can cover it pretty good with the black too, as opposed to a lighter translucent finish.

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HungryBenji Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: MIA Posts: 169 Thanks: 2 Thanked 12 Times in 3 Posts	Re: I had an accident :( Damn...that sucks....don't worry though. My 1st Les Paul is a 1988 Standard, I bought in 94 with a repaired headstock. It was repaired and resprayed by a pro......it is the best playing Les Paul I have touched. Just find a luthier that is experianced and you should have no problems. __________________ 1988 Les Paul Standard 1989 Les Paul Standard 1992 Les Paul Classic 2007 Flying V

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Robster Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Westwood Hills, KS Posts: 942 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: I had an accident :( That's not as nasty as it looks. It can be fixed. R __________________ Just between us, I think it's time for us to recognize The differences we sometimes fear to show. Just between us, I think it's time for us to realize The spaces in between Leave room for you and I to grow {Neil Peart}

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Adamtheloud Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 32 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: I had an accident :( Some drunken jerk at a bar I was playing at stumbled up to the stage to request a song, and kicked my 96 Les Paul Special off the stand off the stage and onto the floor. Took the head stock clean off! Took it to my guy on the edge off a breakdown and he said "wow I just ordered some TV yellow (my colour) for a project I'm working on!". The repair is perfect, completely undetectable. He glued it and reshot the top of the neck and its like it never happened. I know how you feel man, it was a sad day for me too. That guitar is my No.1. But it worked out. It will for you too. __________________ 2001 Gibson R8 1996 Gibson Les Paul Special 2007 Fender GE Smith Telecater

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08-27-2008, 03:53 AM	#30 (permalink)
Vintage_Burster Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 1,771 Thanks: 5 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Re: I had an accident :( Ouch, Just think of what its gonna be like after its fixed. Bad ass, its a Mence with scars. What more could you ask for?! (A guitar with no broken headstock? Im beat.) __________________ "Bursting with a Vintage 07 Standard!"

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