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Unread 10-18-2011, 02:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Baked Maple Fingerboard?

Huh...feds must have gotten ALL the rosewood.

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Unread 10-18-2011, 02:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Baked Maple Fingerboard?

What's "baked maple" ?
On google image I only get image of food
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Re: Baked Maple Fingerboard?

Or they're just saving the dwindling supply for their higher-end guitars...
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Re: Baked Maple Fingerboard?

They are still using rosewood.

Just beginning to transition into obeche and baked maple as well.
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What's "baked maple" ?
On google image I only get image of food
heat treated maple for more stability and a darker color....Suhr and Anderson use it for necks...though they use different names
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Re: Baked Maple Fingerboard?

Fender has been using Maple boards for years. I would be curious to play one , but I bet it plays nice.I have a pao ferro board that plays and looks nice.
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Re: Baked Maple Fingerboard?

why not just put ebony on everything
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Re: Baked Maple Fingerboard?

i like how they are now calling it "baked" rather than "torrefied."

i guess they got sick of people asking what the maple was terrified of
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why not just put ebony on everything
It's getting harder to source legally. It was never a cheap wood anyway, and I imagine the scarcity is making it even pricier.

That got me thinking: Gibson got in trouble in 2009 because the Feds accused them of illegally importing ebony, and the government even seized quite a bit of wood during the raid that has never been returned. That hasn't stopped Gibson from continuing to make guitars with ebony fretboards. After the most recent raid, the fear has been that Gibson is going to stop making guitars with rosewood fretboards. As with the prior raid, I doubt that is going to happen. It does seem, however, that Gibson is investigating other woods for use since it may be harder to source decent rosewood and ebony.
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Re: Baked Maple Fingerboard?

"baked maple" sounds delicious! I want a scone now.
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Re: Baked Maple Fingerboard?

Fender makes rosewood boards...warmoth has rosewood coming out their $%$# and just about every other guitar maker on the planet has rosewood. You are telling me Gibson can't get any rosewood? None? Hell there is rosewood on the epiphones!!!!!
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Fender makes rosewood boards...warmoth has rosewood coming out their $%$# and just about every other guitar maker on the planet has rosewood. You are telling me Gibson can't get any rosewood? None? Hell there is rosewood on the epiphones!!!!!
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Fender makes rosewood boards...warmoth has rosewood coming out their $%$# and just about every other guitar maker on the planet has rosewood. You are telling me Gibson can't get any rosewood? None? Hell there is rosewood on the epiphones!!!!!
i doubt that many other manufacturers turn out as many rosewood board guitars as gibson do. i cant see warmoth selling several thousand necks every week for example. fender use predominantly maple boards and epis are made in china.

also, as far as i know there isnt a problem with sourcing rosewood, its importing it to the usa from india that is causing the problem. epi dont have that problem as it is going from india to china and then shipped to the us as a complete guitar. the whole problem that has blown up is down to the us authorities enforcing an indian law that india themselves apparently arent fussed about. i doubt that the chinese government will cause the same kind of problems at quingdao.

all gibson need to do to have rosewood boards is get the indians to build the guitar - only then your gibson will no longer have "made in usa" stamped on the headstock.
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i doubt that many other manufacturers turn out as many rosewood board guitars as gibson do. i cant see warmoth selling several thousand necks every week for example. fender use predominantly maple boards and epis are made in china.

also, as far as i know there isnt a problem with sourcing rosewood, its importing it to the usa from india that is causing the problem. epi dont have that problem as it is going from india to china and then shipped to the us as a complete guitar. the whole problem that has blown up is down to the us authorities enforcing an indian law that india themselves apparently arent fussed about. i doubt that the chinese government will cause the same kind of problems at quingdao.

all gibson need to do to have rosewood boards is get the indians to build the guitar - only then your gibson will no longer have "made in usa" stamped on the headstock.
I'd rather buy/play an all-American Les Paul with a baked maple board than have Gibson send the fingerboard finishers' jobs over to India just so the corksniffers can have their rosewood boards.
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Re: Baked Maple Fingerboard?

I just wanna say that top is GORGEOUS

So stop looking at the damn board.
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i doubt that many other manufacturers turn out as many rosewood board guitars as gibson do. i cant see warmoth selling several thousand necks every week for example. fender use predominantly maple boards and epis are made in china.

also, as far as i know there isnt a problem with sourcing rosewood, its importing it to the usa from india that is causing the problem. epi dont have that problem as it is going from india to china and then shipped to the us as a complete guitar. the whole problem that has blown up is down to the us authorities enforcing an indian law that india themselves apparently arent fussed about. i doubt that the chinese government will cause the same kind of problems at quingdao.

all gibson need to do to have rosewood boards is get the indians to build the guitar - only then your gibson will no longer have "made in usa" stamped on the headstock.
since when does fender use maple boards more than rosewood...I'm pretty sure they use rosewood more often than maple and they sell A LOT more guitars than Gibson simply due to price.
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I'm not a big fan of the color of the baked maple board. It's too bright for me (in the photos I've seen). But, could be the standard to come.
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Sounds like Juszkiewicz is baked himself.
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I agree about the color. I think they need to change the recipe to add a few more hours of baking time. The "baked maple" looks a little under cooked...
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IMO bends seem to be effortless on a maple fretboard.
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IMO bends seem to be effortless on a maple fretboard.
Maple boards are fine as long as they're not over cooked. The bends can be a little tough once you go past medium well.
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since when does fender use maple boards more than rosewood...I'm pretty sure they use rosewood more often than maple and they sell A LOT more guitars than Gibson simply due to price.
well - the two biggest models in fenders history were designed with maple boards and are still sold with them. now you can have the choice of either on most models unlike gibson who have always sold 99% of their guitars with either rosewood or ebony - and dont forget gibson have been making accoustics and semi hollows since the dawn of time as well as their solid body electrics - unlike fender.

fender only sell lots more guitars than gibson because they sell their mexican made guitars under the fender brand name. if gibson sold epis as "gibson mic" then the numbers probably wouldnt be that different.
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I agree about the color. I think they need to change the recipe to add a few more hours of baking time. The "baked maple" looks a little under cooked...
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It's getting harder to source legally. It was never a cheap wood anyway, and I imagine the scarcity is making it even pricier.
I prefer ebony over any other wood for the fretboard, and I will continue to seek out guitars with ebony boards, even if it costs me more. It is worth it to me. But I'm not terribly worried. There is plenty of inventory in the used market, which is where I tend to shop anyway.
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I'd rather buy/play an all-American Les Paul with a baked maple board than have Gibson send the fingerboard finishers' jobs over to India just so the corksniffers can have their rosewood boards.
Mmm?
That's an interesting slant on things, we're now in the position that wanting a rosewood board on a guitar that was originally designed to have one, is known and cherished for having one and has been sold that way for half a century makes us; "Corksniffers"
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Thanks God I like old, crappy guitars!
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I prefer ebony over any other wood for the fretboard, and I will continue to seek out guitars with ebony boards, even if it costs me more. It is worth it to me. But I'm not terribly worried. There is plenty of inventory in the used market, which is where I tend to shop anyway.
Yer I favour ebony and most of my guitars have EFB, but not really for the sound I just think they look better
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I hate maple fretboards.Glad I'm pretty much done buying .
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