Fitting Firebird mini hum on Les Paul Standard?

sonof101 · 07-23-2008, 07:35 AM

I want to try out a firebird style pick up on the bridge of my Les Paul Standard, in place of the full size Hum currently there. Is this possible? What mounting pieces would I need?

If it's not possible what would the closest alternative to a firebird pup be?

Boleskinehouse · 07-23-2008, 07:38 AM

It's called a Les Paul Deluxe.

Boleskinehouse · 07-23-2008, 07:43 AM

I'm sorry, I couldn't resist. I don't think there's any way to do that. The Deluxe already has mini hums..

My '76...

Welcome to the forum! Which I think is more like an insane asylum this morning.

TheWellGoodShow · 07-23-2008, 07:49 AM

there is a way, i remember it was goof something, its like a pick up ring extension try googling it. there was a thread that had something on it

Boleskinehouse · 07-23-2008, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thewellgoodshow

there is a way, i remember it was goof something, its like a pick up ring extension try googling it. there was a thread that had something on it

Yes, but I don't think they actually sell those in a kit or anything. Not to mention how bad it would look, IMO. A nice used Deluxe wouldn't be very expensive..

TheWellGoodShow · 07-23-2008, 08:35 AM

hmm true they are ugly, but why do you want mini bucks on a les paul?

sonof101 · 07-23-2008, 08:51 AM

I want a firebird pickup, it's different to a normal mini hum. Looks like I may have to upgrade to a deluxe in order to do it.

AXE · 07-23-2008, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonof101

I want a firebird pickup, it's different to a normal mini hum. Looks like I may have to upgrade to a deluxe in order to do it.

+1 on the fact their different p'ups... I have a set from my old bird that I'm going to use in the "Axeplorer" Project ,One is going bridge the other is going middle and a 500t for the bridge .

Sorry for the drift . Keep us posted .

AXE · 07-23-2008, 09:07 AM

Okay back on topic .
Do you have the original F/bird mounting rings ? If so it appears they will mount right up . The bird rings are a bit wider top to bottom and narrower front to back . And appear that they will cover the cavity .

stevefried · 07-23-2008, 09:10 AM

I looked into putting a mini humbucker into one of my Epi Les Pauls to get a Neil Young sound. I talked to a guy (don't remember the name) at Willies American Guitars in St. Paul MN. Between us we thought maybe with a custom mount (maybe brass or plastic) it could work. Otherwise I know there's minis that are made to go in place of full size humbuckers. Look at GFS website.

Boleskinehouse · 07-23-2008, 09:12 AM

My answer to this thread should have been, "I have no idea." !

sonof101 · 07-23-2008, 09:28 AM

You got it, I want the Neil Young sound but out of my Standard! That is a p90 on the neck (for which I can use a gibson p94) and a firebird on the bridge. So You reckon If I got F/bird mounting rings they would fit on the Standard OK?

AXE · 07-23-2008, 09:39 AM

The bird rings are flat and need to be contoured to meet the radius of the arch on the Paul . I'm thinking they will probably work ...
Roman or Greg may be of more assistance ...

Grand Pappy in Chandler · 07-23-2008, 01:29 PM

The Firebird pup rings screw onto the top of the body w/ 4 screws. The pup is attached to the pup ring w/ 2 screws used for height adjustment.The Firebird body is flat.
The LP Deluxe has a contured top as mentioned earlier. The mini's in the LP are mounted using a hollow plastic housing. The LP uses only 2 screws which screw into 2 threaded inserts in the bottom of the pup cavities. These 2 screws hold the pup housing and the pup itself to the guitar and act as height adjustments for the pups.
I hve no idea as to the dimensional differences between an Firebird mini and a LP type mini.
I just assumed the dimensions were the same.
Sounds like a lot of work and mods in order to install any mini in an LP standard.
I agree it probably wouldn't look too good either.
Good luck!

BCRGreg · 07-23-2008, 02:27 PM

I can make up a ring to do the job, call me at the shop on Thursday(off Wednesdays).

717.730.9775

captain tightpants · 08-11-2008, 10:12 PM

It ain't hard, this took me 15 minutes to bang together. I'm guessing a nicer one might take an hour.

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sonof101 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Fitting Firebird mini hum on Les Paul Standard? You got it, I want the Neil Young sound but out of my Standard! That is a p90 on the neck (for which I can use a gibson p94) and a firebird on the bridge. So You reckon If I got F/bird mounting rings they would fit on the Standard OK?

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