is that real gibson ?

[skordys]

Hi folks,

I'm new here and hope got answer from experts.
Found ebay auction for Gibson Les Paul studio but not sure is 100% genuine gobson.
for me headstock "Les Paul MODEL" sould be placed between 1st and 3rd tunes row, and dot above I in GIBSON isn't centered.

any suggestions?

Thanks

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Gibson-Les-Pau...item27b5a8402f

[loneguitar]

It's real, I've yet to see a Studio model faked, no sense in that.

[skordys]

Thanks for quick replay,
I think there is sense to faked studios as new ones cost £999 in UK

sorry for my lango i'm Polish guy.

cheers

[Hiro]

they even have fake epiphones so why not studio gibsons?

[skordys]

Originally Posted by Hiro

they even have fake epiphones so why not studio gibsons?

I think u have them too in US & A
little yellow fingers everywhere,

cheers

[rockstar232007]

Originally Posted by Hiro

they even have fake epiphones so why not studio gibsons?

Because, LP Studios are the cheaper alternative to Standards and Customs (the two most faked LPs), so why would they bother?

As far as the whole fake Epi thing goes? They do it because the overall quality between a Gibson and an Epi, in most cases, is very different, so they think that nobody will notice. HA! Also, most of them aren't technically fake, they're what is known as "back door" guitars. In other words; Someone in the factory either takes pieces of unfinished guitars, and assembles them outside of the factory, or they take guitars that were deemed to be full of flaws, and try to pass them off as new, legitimate guitars.

[Hiro]

yeah but same goes with studio you dont expect it, and thats where they get you

[River]

Originally Posted by skordys

I think u have them too in US & A
little yellow fingers everywhere,

cheers

What color are your fingers?

[Pix]

Originally Posted by River

What color are your fingers?

Salad fingers

[-=[Shifty]=-]

Originally Posted by rockstar232007

Also, most of them aren't technically fake, they're what is known as "back door" guitars. In other words; Someone in the factory either takes pieces of unfinished guitars, and assembles them outside of the factory, or they take guitars that were deemed to be full of flaws, and try to pass them off as new, legitimate guitars.

I'd really like to see proof for that.
If they're "back-door" guitars, why would they differ from real Epis?

[skordys]

Originally Posted by River

What color are your fingers?

how about yours?

[River]

Originally Posted by skordys

how about yours?

Yellow.

[TeleDog]

Oh, those are bad fakes.

Want a good fake? Contact "Mr. S" right here on MLP, he'll sell you a forgery and you can then say it was just "a mistake".

Other forgeries are bad, his are acceptable here.

[Blues-E-Lou]

Originally Posted by TeleDog

Oh, those are bad fakes.

Want a good fake? Contact "Mr. S" right here on MLP, he'll sell you a forgery and you can then say it was just "a mistake".

Other forgeries are bad, his are acceptable here.

Ooooh... call out!

[rockstar232007]

Originally Posted by -=[Shifty]=-

I'd really like to see proof for that.
If they're "back-door" guitars, why would they differ from real Epis?

Most of them don't really...IF you know exactly what to look for. Also, if you notice the differences in the attention to detail between most of the legit Epis (even ones that came from the same factory in the same year) you'll notice all kinds of differences/inconsistancies that it's not even funny.

And, if they differ so much, why is it sometimes a lot harder to tell the difference between a real one and a fake?

Here's a post from a couple of years ago that diceman posted about these "back door" Epis:

Originally Posted by diceman

This will come as a shock to many of you I guess, but there was a problem w/ fake Epi's being sold in Korea while they were being produced there. Gibson/Epiphone had a press release of some sort on the Epi website a while back after someone had found that their "Epiphone" LP had a particle board body. I was stationed in Korea at this time, and bought a number of "unlicensed" legitimate Epiphone guitars that had come out the "back door" of the Unsung factory where they were being made. So... FYI - there ARE "fake" as well as "unlicensed" Epiphone guitars out there...

[58_Iced_Tea]

Originally Posted by loneguitar

It's real, I've yet to see a Studio model faked, no sense in that.

...I hate to do it, but. Wholesale Les Studio,Buy Wholesale Les Studio Products from Chinese Wholesalers

There is nothing, NOTHING I say, that they don't fake...

[River]

Originally Posted by 58_Iced_Tea

...I hate to do it, but. Wholesale Les Studio,Buy Wholesale Les Studio Products from Chinese Wholesalers

There is nothing, NOTHING I say, that they don't fake...

Of course there isn't. It's not illegal there (or many other places). What's illegal is exporting them to countries where it IS illegal. And it's the importers and distributors we need to be after. There's no way to "get to" the manufacturers.

[58_Iced_Tea]

Originally Posted by River

Of course there isn't. It's not illegal there (or many other places). What's illegal is exporting them to countries where it IS illegal. And it's the importers and distributors we need to be after. There's no way to "get to" the manufacturers.

No, you're right. I just didn't want anyone to be misinformed by the above statement.

*edit*

Originally Posted by River

In Ramen I trust

I just noticed that! That's funny. I can definitely relate!

[L.Campionero]

Originally Posted by TeleDog

....Contact "Mr. S" right here on MLP, he'll sell you a forgery and you can then say it was just "a mistake".
Other forgeries are bad, his are acceptable here.

I had to wrack my BRANE to figuer that one out