Proof that the Volute Works!

Last · 09-28-2010, 09:08 AM

Though I doubt this was from a fall.

More likely someone stepped on it.

HRC · 09-28-2010, 09:34 AM

If it's going to break I'd rather have it happen at the headstock.

LeftyF2003 · 09-28-2010, 09:37 AM

Is it me or is there no volute on that neck? If there was it would surely not have kept that from happening! Looks like what the next owner did to my '74 SG. That makes my stomach hurt. Glad it's not mine!

jomo · 09-28-2010, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeftyF2003

Is it me or is there no volute on that neck?

You are correct.

jmg257 · 09-28-2010, 11:17 AM

Don't think a volute would have helped much in this case.

dazzypig · 09-28-2010, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jomo

You are correct.

You sure Jomo?

I think may well be, check out the waythe light is just as it would become almost flat as it went into the neck profile.

I could be wrong, but I think this one is Volute'd

rcole_sooner · 09-28-2010, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dazzypig

You sure Jomo?

I think may well be, check out the waythe light is just as it would become almost flat as it went into the neck profile.

I could be wrong, but I think this one is Volute'd

+1 It is voluted

mraajr · 09-28-2010, 12:52 PM

Definitely a volute there, small but def there.

jomo · 09-28-2010, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcole_sooner

+1 It is voluted

Yeah, looking again it has a small valute.
Here's one I found that you can see a little better.

GammyBird · 09-28-2010, 06:40 PM

Can damage like this be fixed?

BCRGreg · 09-28-2010, 06:49 PM

I dunno......

On the bench, 6/7/09

Mike's_LP · 09-28-2010, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GammyBird

Can damage like this be fixed?

http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/luth...eg-thread.html

Mike's_LP · 09-28-2010, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCRGreg

I dunno......

On the bench, 6/7/09

Beat me to it.

shtdaprdtr · 09-28-2010, 06:59 PM

anything can be fixed..the question is...is it worth the price of fixing it? I know that guitar...it needs a new truss rod as well as it is bent and youre looking at removing the fingerboard there which Ive seen quoted at $500 just that alone..not to mention you gotta remove a fingerboard of a neck split in half..good luck with that..you couldnt fix the neck first as the bent rod wouldnt allow you make it sit well. Too much trouble for what its worth. Not to mention the value of the guitar would be shot no matter what you did at this point.

GammyBird · 09-28-2010, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCRGreg

I dunno......

On the bench, 6/7/09

Why yes it can!!!

Nice work Greg.

zontar · 09-29-2010, 12:17 AM

I love volutes--and three of my guitars have them.

But this isn't proof of any sort about the volute.

LeftyF2003 · 09-29-2010, 06:01 PM

I think if your guitar gets hit that hard there's not much that's going to save you. It could be argued that if that was done with the headstock up against a solid object the lack of volute may have caused it to break at the headstock which would be a simpler repair, but I have a feeling looking at this that it would just have ended up with 2 breaks, one in the middle of the neck and one at the headstock. In any event, as I said before I'm glad it's not mine!

sangandongo · 09-29-2010, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeftyF2003

Is it me or is there no volute on that neck? If there was it would surely not have kept that from happening! Looks like what the next owner did to my '74 SG. That makes my stomach hurt. Glad it's not mine!

Quote:

Originally Posted by jomo

You are correct.

nope. that's an early 70s volute. 74 or early 75 at the latest.

timgman · 09-29-2010, 06:31 PM

Where's the volute?
Is that the gold-top that just sold on ebay.???

GammyBird · 09-30-2010, 01:18 PM

Here's the ebay auction....

1971 GIBSON LES PAUL GOLD TOP PROJECT BROKEN GUITAR SG on eBay.ca (item 330477153165 end time 30-Sep-10 15:06:44 EDT)

Item number 330477153165 just in case the link above doesn't work.

LeftyF2003 · 10-16-2010, 08:27 PM

Ah yea, you can see the volute in the other pictures. $850.00 was a good price for someone that's comfortable repairing a neck. That's going to be a project. Have to be brave to buy a guitar where a chunk of the neck comes in a plastic bag!

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shtdaprdtr Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: new york Posts: 3,079 Thanks: 2 Thanked 29 Times in 14 Posts	Re: Proof that the Volute Works! anything can be fixed..the question is...is it worth the price of fixing it? I know that guitar...it needs a new truss rod as well as it is bent and youre looking at removing the fingerboard there which Ive seen quoted at $500 just that alone..not to mention you gotta remove a fingerboard of a neck split in half..good luck with that..you couldnt fix the neck first as the bent rod wouldnt allow you make it sit well. Too much trouble for what its worth. Not to mention the value of the guitar would be shot no matter what you did at this point.

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LeftyF2003 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: An island in the middle of a lake somewhere Posts: 3,040 Thanks: 9 Thanked 19 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Proof that the Volute Works! I think if your guitar gets hit that hard there's not much that's going to save you. It could be argued that if that was done with the headstock up against a solid object the lack of volute may have caused it to break at the headstock which would be a simpler repair, but I have a feeling looking at this that it would just have ended up with 2 breaks, one in the middle of the neck and one at the headstock. In any event, as I said before I'm glad it's not mine!

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GammyBird Bartlett Retrospec Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 16,630 Thanks: 378 Thanked 175 Times in 82 Posts	Re: Proof that the Volute Works! Here's the ebay auction.... 1971 GIBSON LES PAUL GOLD TOP PROJECT BROKEN GUITAR SG on eBay.ca (item 330477153165 end time 30-Sep-10 15:06:44 EDT) Item number 330477153165 just in case the link above doesn't work.

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LeftyF2003 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: An island in the middle of a lake somewhere Posts: 3,040 Thanks: 9 Thanked 19 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Proof that the Volute Works! Ah yea, you can see the volute in the other pictures. $850.00 was a good price for someone that's comfortable repairing a neck. That's going to be a project. Have to be brave to buy a guitar where a chunk of the neck comes in a plastic bag!

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