Fender 70's Reissue or American Standard Strat

[EEF13]

The 70's is MIM. I hear really good reviews on the 70's and also American Standard. Which one should I go with?

[rideski]

I have to say that I absolutely love my AM Standard. Had it a couple months now so the Honeymoon period is over and it's still awesome. I just put Fender locking tuners on it and the thing never goes out of tune. Rock solid.

[RichCI]

I'd probably go for the Am. Std. but, if I were you, I'd head to your local music store and play a bunch of examples of each and find the pick of the litter.

[overdriver]

Originally Posted by EEF13

The 70's is MIM. I hear really good reviews on the 70's and also American Standard. Which one should I go with?

IMO ,AM standard all the way man!!!!!!!!!!!!!! For the life of me I can't figure why Fender reissued the 70's 3 bolt , bolt truss Strat. Both MIM and MIA Krazy.
And the price of the MIM classic's new is too close to the new AM strandard.

Going to try again are ya. you ever get your money back on the last one?

[overdriver]

Originally Posted by RichCI

I'd probably go for the Am. Std. but, if I were you, I'd head to your local music store and play a bunch of examples of each and find the pick of the litter.

That too.

[Yogi]

THE 70s reissue and American Standard are really different guitars, that play and sound completely different. U Shaped neck vs. C shape, 21 vs 22 frets, 6pointvs 2 point bridge, vintage frets vs. Medium Jumbo, lower output alnicos vs modern output alnicos. They both will be quality guitars, but you really should play examples of both and see which one you prefer. Its hard to give a blanket statement about which one you should get because we are not you. For the most part, most people will come in here and say get the American, mainly based on the fact that it is American and it is perceived to automatically be the higher quality guitar. Higher quality, maybe yes, but the best player and tone machine for you? Maybe not. I had an American HT Standard Strat. It was my first American that I ever bought. I put it on lay away on impulse. A couple of months later when I got it off I played it for a month before I realized it was " ok " , but not all what I expected after all the hype. It was promptly traded for A mexican Classic Player's 60.

So you really need to go play both, but I can assure, not matter which one you buy it will be a solid instrument.

[Byron999]

Good advice Yogi. And great choice in the mexican Classic Player's 60, I would buy that guitar over any other any other fender model, good looking (that blue is sweet), great sounding(cs69 pu's) and that 12 radius neck, which I also have on a MIM swamp ash natural body.

I made a some what impulse ebay buy this past weekend, actually i bid an opening bid of 200.00 on and a Warmoth SRV profiled, 10-16 compound radius, maple/pau ferro FB and locking brushed chrome Shallers, properly finished. I bid mostly cause I wanted to try out the compound radius necks. I could not believe no one else bid. I wasn't going to re-bid if some else had. Anyway got it on Monday and installed it on my 03 MIA, fits like a glove in the pocket. This is one nice neck, but the SRV profile is larger than the new modern-C profile, feels slightly larger than the Classic Player 60's. I played it for a couple of hours last night. Fantastic neck, but it might be too large for my hand. The seller even included an extra set minus 1(5) brand new Brushed chrome locking Shaller. So got the neck and a total of 11 locking shaller tuners for 215.00. There is some great deals out there, and if you know what your looking for you can put together a great Strat for less money than what Fender wants for a new MIA.

[overdriver]

Any way getting back to MIM 70's VS. AM standard which is what the org. ? is, Not what, out of all the different models out there should I buy ?. Sure ya can go on and on about this and that model but thats not the ? is it!

Without a doubt the new MIA Standard is a better Guitar than the MIM 70,s. Will hold its value more so than any MIM, comes with a great case and is not much more than a MIM 70's (solid colours). But by all means play a bunch of each, hear , feel for yourself.

FYI the 3 bolt neck, bullet ended truss rod strats are some the least favored strats.

[EEF13]

Originally Posted by overdriver

IMO ,AM standard all the way man!!!!!!!!!!!!!! For the life of me I can't figure why Fender reissued the 70's 3 bolt , bolt truss Strat. Both MIM and MIA Krazy.
And the price of the MIM classic's new is too close to the new AM strandard.

Going to try again are ya. you ever get your money back on the last one?

That is why I am asking. I will be getting my money this or the next week.

[overdriver]

Originally Posted by EEF13

That is why I am asking. I will be getting my money this or the next week.

Good glad to hear that. Sure a MIM 70's to some are a nice guitar, but so are the many, many ,many, many, many other strats Fender puts out.

Try em both if you can, if not I'd put my money into the AM standard 2008 & up IMO. Hell I wouldn't even think of buying a 70's classic.

[Hamtone]

AM standard on any given day

[LoFi DillusionsofGranduer]

I have MANY Strats (US/MIM), and one happens to be a MIM 70's. I prefer the larger headstock and "C" shape neck. As a matter of fact, I prefer that guitar over just about all of my other guitars. Point being........Don't let the MIM scare you off, I have played and owned enough US made guitars that are not as nice as my MIM.
As far as Fender goes......Would you rather have a US Fender made by Mexicans, or a MIM Fender made by Mexicans?

[RichCI]

The lesson to be learned here: Everybody has different tastes in guitars so you really just need to go try them both.

[overdriver]

Originally Posted by LoFi DillusionsofGranduer

Would you rather have a US Fender made by Mexicans, or a MIM Fender made by Mexicans?

B.S. And I really am sick of hearing this nosense. Come on! And your 70's has a U shaped neck not a C shape. Of all the starts made throughout the decades the ones like yours are the least popular.
And what peoples build them and where they are built has nothing to do with it. The design was the last straw that broke the CBS Camels back so to speak.

[Yogi]

Originally Posted by overdriver

B.S. And I really am sick of hearing this nosense. Come on! And your 70's has a U shaped neck not a C shape. Of all the strats made throughout the decades the ones like yours are the least popular.
And what peoples build them and where they are built has nothing to do with it. The design was the last straw that broke the CBS Camels back so to speak.

As I recall the 58 Explorers and Vs were also unpopular in their day too... They were unpopular because of the radical design changes and the lack of QC back then. Structurally there is nothing with a 3 bolt design, its just that CBS was bad at executing back then. I guarantee though that the Mexican made versions of today are more consistently made well compared to the American versions of the period.

[LoFi DillusionsofGranduer]

Originally Posted by overdriver

B.S. And I really am sick of hearing this nosense. Come on! And your 70's has a U shaped neck not a C shape. Of all the starts made throughout the decades the ones like yours are the least popular.
And what peoples build them and where they are built has nothing to do with it. The design was the last straw that broke the CBS Camels back so to speak.

Um, Ok? To argue on the internet is like winning all the gold medals in the Special Olympics.

Please.......OP.........Play what you like........And don't ask what everybody else thinks.

Thank you, And Goodnight.

[overdriver]

Originally Posted by LoFi DillusionsofGranduer

Um, Ok? To argue on the internet is like winning all the gold medals in the Special Olympics.

Please.......OP.........Play what you like........And don't ask what everybody else thinks.

Thank you, And Goodnight.

WTF "don't ask what everyboby else thinks". "Special Olympics", Oh you are a witty one.

[overdriver]

Originally Posted by Yogi

As I recall the 58 Explorers and Vs were also unpopular in their day too... They were unpopular because of the radical design changes and the lack of QC back then. Structurally there is nothing with a 3 bolt design, its just that CBS was bad at executing back then. I guarantee though that the Mexican made versions of today are more consistently made well compared to the American versions of the period.

Yogi !,Yogi!. remember who you are talkin too bro. I know all that. Most of the guitar (Strat) playing population still considers the 70's 3 blot a P.O.S. idea no matter . Why bring up the Gibson, still not real popular. An oddity and limited market place for them compared to the, Lp ,335, SG etc.

Hey the Explorers and V and some other Gibsons , to persons such as myself are still not popular , never will be. I never wanted one! I am 55 been around ya know .

Back to Fender Strats .IMO when they stuck the butt ugly bullet end, 2 string tree and 3 bolt neck , flat pole piece pups on them they where no good after that . Any representation of those weither MIA or MIM IMO is not worth owning.


How many classic 70's you got Yogi , going to run out and buy one any time soon

[RichCI]

What does the flat pole pieces have to do with anything? The way I understand it, the pieces that Fender were receiving from their supplier at the time had chips on the ends and that's why they beveled them, not for any sonic or cosmetic reason except to keep them from looking damaged (like they were).

[overdriver]

Originally Posted by RichCI

What does the flat pole pieces have to do with anything? The way I understand it, the pieces that Fender were receiving from their supplier at the time had chips on the ends and that's why they beveled them, not for any sonic or cosmetic reason except to keep them from looking damaged (like they were).

flat as opposed to staggarded............. flathead.

[Yogi]

Originally Posted by overdriver

Back to Fender Strats .IMO when they stuck the butt ugly bullet end, 2 string tree and 3 bolt neck , flat pole piece pups on them they where no good after that . Any representation of those weither MIA or MIM IMO is not worth owning.


How many classic 70's you got Yogi , going to run out and buy one any time soon

Ha Ha, I almost did lol. I've been wanting one for a while, but its all preference. There are people who like em and people who don't.

[overdriver]

Originally Posted by Yogi

Ha Ha, I almost did lol. I've been wanting one for a while, but its all preference. There are people who like em and people who don't.

goes for anything . I bet if ya do, it won't be a keeper. And wasn't your first choice.

[RichCI]

Originally Posted by overdriver

flat as opposed to staggarded............. flathead.

Oh! I misunderstood what you were saying. My bad!

[overdriver]

Originally Posted by RichCI

Oh! I misunderstood what you were saying. My bad!

Ya I figured that out all on my own


and fwiw http://www.strat-talk.com/forum/stra...0s-strats.html