Fender Standard Strat vs. Fender HSS Strat

Tucker2121 · 06-21-2009, 10:23 PM

Differences?

...Besides the humbucker.

Is the sound any differnet even with the humbucker.

Basically give me a little review on both and feedback

Thanks.

Yogi · 06-21-2009, 11:01 PM

They are pretty much the same guitar, but one has a humbucker in the bridge. Humbuckers are fatter sounding and generally have more output than single coils.

Justin_Case · 06-21-2009, 11:23 PM

If you find a 2006 or older HSS you can get a Standard with the S1 switch the same one that is only available in the Deluxe models now. With the S1, in addition to other additional combinations, you can split the bridge pickup humbucker. I have several strats, but my HSS S1 is up there on the " grab " list.

Yogi · 06-22-2009, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin_Case

If you find a 2006 or older HSS you can get a Standard with the S1 switch the same one that is only available in the Deluxe models now. With the S1, in addition to other additional combinations, you can split the bridge pickup humbucker. I have several strats, but my HSS S1 is up there on the " grab " list.

I think he's talking about the Standard MIM models not the AMERICAN STANDARD/HSS. THE MIMs never had the S1

Tucker2121 · 06-22-2009, 01:35 PM

Not the American ones i think Mexican. The ones you can get for around $500. Im figuring out if I should get the HSS or Reg if I already have an Epiphone LP

Yogi · 06-22-2009, 01:37 PM

I'd go for SSS since you already have a HB guitar

Tucker2121 · 06-22-2009, 01:39 PM

Alright. Cuz the hard rock I play the LP is perfect for, but the blues.. well it cant compare with a strat IMO. Thanks.

Saljam · 06-22-2009, 03:41 PM

I just got my 2008 Fender Strat back from the guitar shop. It was originally an HSS. I switched out the humbucker for a songle coil to go with the classic SSS. I felt since I have an EPI LP I had no need for the humbucker in my Strat. I guess it really comes down to what you are looking for as far as tone goes out of that bridge pickup.

Justin_Case · 06-23-2009, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yogi

I think he's talking about the Standard MIM models not the AMERICAN STANDARD/HSS. THE MIMs never had the S1

I owned 2 of them Both American - this is a 2006 Shoreline Gold - note the painted fret markers and it has no locking tuners and the S1 - this was was just traded for an Explorer

This one is a 2004

Again a Standard HSS w/ S1

Yogi · 06-24-2009, 12:26 AM

Yeah I know the Americans had the S1 but he's talking about the Mexican models and they dont

Justin_Case · 06-24-2009, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yogi

Yeah I know the Americans had the S1 but he's talking about the Mexican models and they dont

My bad - typing tired.

FWIW - If you dig you can find these on the cheap side - the Shoreline I got for $700 from a retailer unloading on Ebay and the 2004 / Sunburst for $600 on Superbowl Sunday - mint condition.

circusboy28 · 06-24-2009, 01:27 AM

I've got an 80's Jap Strat with a US DH-1 humbucker in it. It sounds good, but in general I'd go for single coils on a Strat, because you'll never get that thick Gibson sound out of it. A good Strat through a good amp, played loud, has a unique ballsy bluesy sound. That is a big part of it though - Strats need pushing to sound at their best - so PLAY LOUD!!

Iceman0124 · 06-24-2009, 02:13 AM

If your buying new I'd checkout the squire classic vibe line, IMO they kill the mexi's in everything except pots, switch and wire, plus if you want to go humbucker later, the bodies are routed for them in the bridge position. The stock pups on both models are great, and playability, fit and finish are top notch (barring my bad RW board on my first 60's, it still sounded and played great though) IMO I think they are much better guitars than the mexi's regardless of price, plus the needed upgrades are cheaper as well.

BUDOKAI · 06-27-2009, 02:54 AM

strat + humbucker= useless

BUDOKAI · 06-27-2009, 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman0124

If your buying new I'd checkout the squire classic vibe line, IMO they kill the mexi's in everything except pots, switch and wire, plus if you want to go humbucker later, the bodies are routed for them in the bridge position. The stock pups on both models are great, and playability, fit and finish are top notch (barring my bad RW board on my first 60's, it still sounded and played great though) IMO I think they are much better guitars than the mexi's regardless of price, plus the needed upgrades are cheaper as well.

noo-nooo-noooo

Iceman0124 · 06-27-2009, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BUDOKAI

noo-nooo-noooo

Thumbs down based on what? Have you even played or seen one in the flesh?

I own 2 and can honestly say I've never seen nor played a new mexi that sounded better, looked better, felt better, and had better detailing, and I've been in this game 25 odd years, the classic vibes are awesome guitars hands down, if you want to pay considerably more and do more extensive upgrading and finish work to have "fender" on the HS, thats totally up to you, but if your going to discredit my statements, your gonna have to back it up buddy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BUDOKAI

noo-nooo-noooo

Doesnt cut it, explain please.

overdriver · 06-27-2009, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BUDOKAI

noo-nooo-noooo

Yes , Yes, Yes , way!

overdriver · 06-27-2009, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BUDOKAI

strat + humbucker= useless

Not to all . IMO I do not care for a HB on a Fender but. others do.

hbucker · 06-27-2009, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by overdriver

Not to all . IMO I do not care for a HB on a Fender but. others do.

Agreed. IMO it all depends on what you're after. Classic Strat vibe? =No humbucker. More modern rock vibe? =Slap in the humbucker.

And putting a humbucker in a Strat does not make it sound like an LP. IMO they are two different types of tone derived from different scale lengths and construction.

Both are good. Just different.

overdriver · 06-27-2009, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hbucker

Agreed. IMO it all depends on what you're after. Classic Strat vibe? =No humbucker. More modern rock vibe? =Slap in the humbucker.

And putting a humbucker in a Strat does not make it sound like an LP. IMO they are two different types of tone derived from different scale lengths and construction.

Both are good. Just different.

+1 Hi HB how ya been. I bought a Squire CV tele yesterday . They are nice guitars for the money. Always wanted the Mary Kaye type finish.

captcoolaid · 06-27-2009, 05:31 PM

I got to ask. Why have a middle pickup when you run a humbucker. why not just split the coils, or just do away with it all together. I did and I love it.

Thats a shot of my custom built with a 3 way I absolutely love it.

captcoolaid · 06-27-2009, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BUDOKAI

strat + humbucker= useless

obviously I disagree but I also have a MIM with The Dimarzio Fast Track 2 that I love.

zslane · 06-28-2009, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by captcoolaid

I got to ask. Why have a middle pickup when you run a humbucker. why not just split the coils, or just do away with it all together.

It depends on one's pickup choices and overall goals. In one of my Strats, I want a vintage single-coil sound from the neck and middle positions, so I have Vintage Rails there. I put a Pearly Gates HB in the bridge position because I want that Strat to sound really hot when I engage position 5. Splitting off one of its coils would not give me a vintage sound in the middle position the way the Vintage Rail does.

overdriver · 06-28-2009, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by captcoolaid

I got to ask. Why have a middle pickup when you run a humbucker. why not just split the coils, or just do away with it all together. I did and I love it.

Thats a shot of my custom built with a 3 way I absolutely love it.

Because the middle pup give you a tone ya can't get from the other positions

Iceman0124 · 06-28-2009, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by captcoolaid

I got to ask. Why have a middle pickup when you run a humbucker. why not just split the coils, or just do away with it all together. I did and I love it.

Thats a shot of my custom built with a 3 way I absolutely love it.

The inbetween mid plus positions are my fave strat tones, even with a humbucker you can still get the neck mid combo wich is what I use the most.

Love the finish on your strat, are you going to get a guard cut for your mods or leave it as is? Personaly I'd want a new guard cut, just looks ufinished, or at the very least throw an unwired dummy pup in there.

captcoolaid · 06-28-2009, 08:33 PM

I like her just the way she is. I have traditional style strats as well, so this is m Ugly Betty. And she is my favorite.

Iceman0124 · 06-28-2009, 09:01 PM

I wouldnt call her ugly, she just looks unfinished, in the end its whatever makes you happy.

captcoolaid · 06-28-2009, 11:32 PM

I thought about making her finished looking but all my others are and they just don't have the same feel to them. So she stays the same. I might try a white pickgaurd that I have but the beater 50's look I am kind of digging on.

overdriver · 06-29-2009, 12:11 AM

I like the pinup girl decal!

Paragon · 06-30-2009, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BUDOKAI

strat + humbucker= useless

How's that RG20 treating you?

Not everyone who uses humbuckers is using an LP or SG.. of course not many people stick with the stock pickupsand pick ones that works for them.

06-21-2009, 10:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
Tucker2121 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Georgia Posts: 178 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 3 Posts	Fender Standard Strat vs. Fender HSS Strat Differences? ...Besides the humbucker. Is the sound any differnet even with the humbucker. Basically give me a little review on both and feedback Thanks. __________________ -Tucker -Current: Epiphone Les Paul, Vox VT30, Boss Od-20 -Upcoming: Gibson LP Studio, Fender MIA Strat, A tube amp, Epiphone Korina Explorer, Jimmy Page Wiring & Custom 5 and '59(Lp), 81/85 EMGs(Explorer)

06-21-2009, 11:01 PM	#2 (permalink)
Yogi Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 660 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Fender Standard Strat vs. Fender HSS Strat They are pretty much the same guitar, but one has a humbucker in the bridge. Humbuckers are fatter sounding and generally have more output than single coils. __________________ Fall mountains... just don't fall on me...

06-21-2009, 11:23 PM	#3 (permalink)
Justin_Case Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 269 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Fender Standard Strat vs. Fender HSS Strat If you find a 2006 or older HSS you can get a Standard with the S1 switch the same one that is only available in the Deluxe models now. With the S1, in addition to other additional combinations, you can split the bridge pickup humbucker. I have several strats, but my HSS S1 is up there on the " grab " list.

06-22-2009, 01:35 PM	#5 (permalink)
Tucker2121 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Georgia Posts: 178 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Fender Standard Strat vs. Fender HSS Strat Not the American ones i think Mexican. The ones you can get for around $500. Im figuring out if I should get the HSS or Reg if I already have an Epiphone LP __________________ -Tucker -Current: Epiphone Les Paul, Vox VT30, Boss Od-20 -Upcoming: Gibson LP Studio, Fender MIA Strat, A tube amp, Epiphone Korina Explorer, Jimmy Page Wiring & Custom 5 and '59(Lp), 81/85 EMGs(Explorer)

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06-22-2009, 01:39 PM	#7 (permalink)
Tucker2121 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Georgia Posts: 178 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Fender Standard Strat vs. Fender HSS Strat Alright. Cuz the hard rock I play the LP is perfect for, but the blues.. well it cant compare with a strat IMO. Thanks. __________________ -Tucker -Current: Epiphone Les Paul, Vox VT30, Boss Od-20 -Upcoming: Gibson LP Studio, Fender MIA Strat, A tube amp, Epiphone Korina Explorer, Jimmy Page Wiring & Custom 5 and '59(Lp), 81/85 EMGs(Explorer)

06-22-2009, 03:41 PM	#8 (permalink)
Saljam Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 168 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Fender Standard Strat vs. Fender HSS Strat I just got my 2008 Fender Strat back from the guitar shop. It was originally an HSS. I switched out the humbucker for a songle coil to go with the classic SSS. I felt since I have an EPI LP I had no need for the humbucker in my Strat. I guess it really comes down to what you are looking for as far as tone goes out of that bridge pickup.

06-24-2009, 12:26 AM	#10 (permalink)
Yogi Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 660 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Fender Standard Strat vs. Fender HSS Strat Yeah I know the Americans had the S1 but he's talking about the Mexican models and they dont __________________ Fall mountains... just don't fall on me...

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circusboy28 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Petersham in sunny Sydney Posts: 2,323 Thanks: 46 Thanked 9 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Fender Standard Strat vs. Fender HSS Strat I've got an 80's Jap Strat with a US DH-1 humbucker in it. It sounds good, but in general I'd go for single coils on a Strat, because you'll never get that thick Gibson sound out of it. A good Strat through a good amp, played loud, has a unique ballsy bluesy sound. That is a big part of it though - Strats need pushing to sound at their best - so PLAY LOUD!!

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Iceman0124 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chattanooga TN Posts: 1,533 Thanks: 39 Thanked 12 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Fender Standard Strat vs. Fender HSS Strat If your buying new I'd checkout the squire classic vibe line, IMO they kill the mexi's in everything except pots, switch and wire, plus if you want to go humbucker later, the bodies are routed for them in the bridge position. The stock pups on both models are great, and playability, fit and finish are top notch (barring my bad RW board on my first 60's, it still sounded and played great though) IMO I think they are much better guitars than the mexi's regardless of price, plus the needed upgrades are cheaper as well.

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BUDOKAI Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Torrance CA Posts: 1,588 Thanks: 139 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Fender Standard Strat vs. Fender HSS Strat strat + humbucker= useless __________________ Sigs are for losers

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captcoolaid Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: who says I am alive Posts: 2,387 Thanks: 99 Thanked 60 Times in 14 Posts	Re: Fender Standard Strat vs. Fender HSS Strat I got to ask. Why have a middle pickup when you run a humbucker. why not just split the coils, or just do away with it all together. I did and I love it. Thats a shot of my custom built with a 3 way I absolutely love it. __________________ peace n tone Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity WBpickups-My tones as fat as a Samoan ballerina Yeah my gear is beet up, Thats cause I play it. Shut up and play. http://www.myspace.com/daisychamber whiners click here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDwyG...eature=related

06-28-2009, 08:33 PM	#26 (permalink)
captcoolaid Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: who says I am alive Posts: 2,387 Thanks: 99 Thanked 60 Times in 14 Posts	Re: Fender Standard Strat vs. Fender HSS Strat I like her just the way she is. I have traditional style strats as well, so this is m Ugly Betty. And she is my favorite. __________________ peace n tone Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity WBpickups-My tones as fat as a Samoan ballerina Yeah my gear is beet up, Thats cause I play it. Shut up and play. http://www.myspace.com/daisychamber whiners click here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDwyG...eature=related

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Iceman0124 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chattanooga TN Posts: 1,533 Thanks: 39 Thanked 12 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Fender Standard Strat vs. Fender HSS Strat I wouldnt call her ugly, she just looks unfinished, in the end its whatever makes you happy.

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captcoolaid Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: who says I am alive Posts: 2,387 Thanks: 99 Thanked 60 Times in 14 Posts	Re: Fender Standard Strat vs. Fender HSS Strat I thought about making her finished looking but all my others are and they just don't have the same feel to them. So she stays the same. I might try a white pickgaurd that I have but the beater 50's look I am kind of digging on. __________________ peace n tone Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity WBpickups-My tones as fat as a Samoan ballerina Yeah my gear is beet up, Thats cause I play it. Shut up and play. http://www.myspace.com/daisychamber whiners click here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDwyG...eature=related

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overdriver V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Kanata Posts: 5,443 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Fender Standard Strat vs. Fender HSS Strat I like the pinup girl decal!

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