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Unread 06-01-2010, 09:51 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Epiphone Frets...and Fretwire

How'd you rate the fretwork on an Epiphone? If it's not good, is it worth it to get a refret done? Will the frets last as long as they will on say...a more expensive brand model?

And if you had fret buzz issues, did a crown/polish job and a good setup take care of it?

I know this is an old topic for certain...but it seems to me that this is probably the main complaint amongst Epiphone consumers. Would it be worth it for Epiphone to use more expensive fret wire....??
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Unread 06-01-2010, 10:34 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Epiphone Frets...and Fretwire

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How'd you rate the fretwork on an Epiphone? If it's not good, is it worth it to get a refret done? Will the frets last as long as they will on say...a more expensive brand model?

And if you had fret buzz issues, did a crown/polish job and a good setup take care of it?

I know this is an old topic for certain...but it seems to me that this is probably the main complaint amongst Epiphone consumers. Would it be worth it for Epiphone to use more expensive fret wire....??
Most of the Epi's I have owned (except the Elitist line) have just needed fret levelling / dressing / polish. The fretwire is fine... Some may need to have the frets re-seated / glued as well as there can be loose frets.

It boils down to economics - you arent going to get Epiphone to spend an extra $100 per guitar for a good pro setup at the current price point. Even many Gibsons need this service done as well...
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Unread 06-01-2010, 10:36 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Epiphone Frets...and Fretwire

The fret work on my Epi was excellent to start with. Dressed and polished (via PLEK) it's fantastic. It's my most-played guitar, and the frets are holding up extremely well. So the wire must be more than OK.

It came from the DW factory, in '07.
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Unread 06-01-2010, 10:46 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Epiphone Frets...and Fretwire

My G-400 came with perfect frets, and I mean perfect. It was also a "2nd". My Epi LP on the other hand, has some issues on E and B around the 15th fret.
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Re: Epiphone Frets...and Fretwire

I like nice low action and a straight neck.

To get this on my Epiphones, I've had to do a fret level, crown and polish on almost every one of 'em.

This isn't a defect. Epiphone factory string height specs are much higher than I like. They even say in the manual that comes with new Epis - if you lower the action (lower than their specs) you may experience excess fret buzz.

Nothing a good fret job can't cure. Once you do that.... they're gold!

No need for a re-fret.

Also..... as far as fret wear..... I've noticed them wear at the same rate as on my other guitars, including Gibsons and Fenders.
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Re: Epiphone Frets...and Fretwire

I know this is an older thread, but imo, half of the guitars suck in terms of the stock fretwork. Epiphone could do a much better job.
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Re: Epiphone Frets...and Fretwire

The only thing I would change about Epis frets is make them just a little bit taller. Thats my only beef with them.
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Re: Epiphone Frets...and Fretwire

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The only thing I would change about Epis frets is make them just a little bit taller. Thats my only beef with them.
I have to agree. My Epi is a bit too wide for me too I think... maybe I'm just nit picking though

But taller would definitely be cooler.

I won't call on Drew for the thread resurrect because I think that this is a good topic to discuss.

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i won't call on drew for the thread resurrect because i think that this is a good topic to discuss.

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Re: Epiphone Frets...and Fretwire

I've had no problems whatsoever with the frets on my two Epi's. A simple bridge adjustment made the action more than adequate. I may have my Luthier do a custom lowering and recrown to get the action down lower like cooper but it's not necessary.
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Re: Epiphone Frets...and Fretwire

I seem to be scraping the hell out of my frets on my epi. I used to do this occasionally on my other guitars, but not in a long time. If I repeat the same 2-finger bend a bunch of times, it scrapes and I wind up with visible shavings/residue. With 2 finger bends, I wind up pushing the string into the fret pretty hard. I'm trying to improve my technique, but because it's really only happening on this guitar, I can't help but think that the frets might be softer. Either that or maybe it's because the action is a tad lower on this guitar, I can't get under the strings so well, which results in me pushing them into the frets instead of up.
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Re: Epiphone Frets...and Fretwire

My 89 G400, bought used, was obviously a player, to judge by the body and finish ... but the frets are fine, and I'm sure they're original. I've got the action dialed pretty low for my tastes, and no hint of buzz.
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Re: Epiphone Frets...and Fretwire

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I know this is an older thread, but imo, half of the guitars suck in terms of the stock fretwork. Epiphone could do a much better job.
Whoa! You've played a LOT of Epiphones, man!
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Whoa! You've played a LOT of Epiphones, man!
Sure have gramps.
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The only thing I would change about Epis frets is make them just a little bit taller. Thats my only beef with them.
I am with this one as well.
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Re: Epiphone Frets...and Fretwire

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Whoa! You've played a LOT of Epiphones, man!
He's actually not wrong.

I've played hundreds upon hundreds of new Epi guitars (not just LPs), and I can honestly say that in most cases, the term "barbed-wire" really does apply.

In fact, when I tried out my Epi LP, I almost sliced the palm of my hand when I ran it down the neck. But, since even at the age of 19, I wasn't expecting top-notch craftsmanship or attention to detail, I really didn't let that one small thing deter me. After a proper dress/polish, they were as good as gold.

If I had to rate the fretwork in my experiences, on a scale from 1-10, I'd say...about 4.5?
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Re: Epiphone Frets...and Fretwire

Weird, I didnt play a lot of epiphones, but I would fiddle around with them sometimes in music stores. They seemed to have adequate fretjobs and I am yet to experience rough fret ends that would actually hurt my hand.
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Weird, I didnt play a lot of epiphones, but I would fiddle around with them sometimes in music stores. They seemed to have adequate fretjobs and I am yet to experience rough fret ends that would actually hurt my hand.
I'm not saying they're all bad, but in most cases, that particular detail is usually hit or miss.
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