What Epiphone Les Paul Shold i get?

Raddar · 03-13-2010, 12:17 AM

Well i own a Epiphone Les Paul Special 2 and the guitar is really really bad i seems i was one of the unlucky ones.And I'm getting ready for my next guitar.
I'm Looking for some what adequate for Jazz,Classic Rock and Classic Metal.

Ride on a Pony · 03-13-2010, 12:20 AM

If you have to ask, I'd say "don't".

Raddar · 03-13-2010, 12:32 AM

And why is that?

FrankenFretter · 03-13-2010, 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raddar

Well i own a Epiphone Les Paul Special 2 and the guitar is really really bad i seems i was one of the unlucky ones.And I'm getting ready for my next guitar.
I'm Looking for some what adequate for Jazz,Classic Rock and Classic Metal.

I just bought an Epi Tribute Les Paul. Great bang for the buck, and it has the Gibson 57 and 57+ pickups. I'm extremely happy with mine.

Hairless_Ape · 03-13-2010, 12:44 AM

Best thing to do is just go to your local dealer and start playing every one in the store. You'll know it when you've found the LP you should buy.

If you can't purchase locally the make sure that when you buy online it's from an authorized dealer only. A Studio Plus or a Standard would be a nice step up for you. The PUP's are fair/decent and should wake up some if you replace the stock wiring and pots. If you're willing to step up to the higher price brackets I really can't recommend the Les Paul Tribute model enough. And if you get another dud you should send it back for a replacement.

Good luck!

Ride on a Pony · 03-13-2010, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Raddar

And why is that?

We can't tell you what you want. If you don't know then you'll be better off saving your money untill you do.

Raddar · 03-13-2010, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Ride on a Pony

We can't tell you what you want. If you don't know then you'll be better off saving your money untill you do.

I'll keep that in mind thx.

Ride on a Pony · 03-13-2010, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Raddar

I'll keep that in mind thx.

mgridgaway · 03-14-2010, 01:39 AM

For comparison... what makes your Special II really really bad, and what do you have to compare the sound to to know it's really really bad?

diceman · 03-14-2010, 01:42 AM

Did you have a pro setup done on your Special II?

Raddar · 03-14-2010, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by mgridgaway

For comparison... what makes your Special II really really bad, and what do you have to compare the sound to to know it's really really bad?

well the action is stupid high, for a unbearable fret buzz on the low E string and all so the bridge pick up is so god dam twangy (at least is seems that way to me compared to the neck one)

diceman · 03-14-2010, 01:59 AM

High action = poor setup.

Fret buzz = poor setup.

Bridge pickups are always "twangy" compared to neck pickups.

Raddar · 03-14-2010, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by diceman

Did you have a pro setup done on your Special II?

No i didn't.

diceman · 03-14-2010, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Raddar

No i didn't.

Start there - you'll be amazed with the improvement it will make.

diceman · 03-14-2010, 03:00 AM

And, welcome to the forum!

Raddar · 03-14-2010, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by diceman

And, welcome to the forum!

Well thnx for the welcome but i tried to fix it well i mean to fine tune all the features on it but i cant find a way to do it in a good way.

diceman · 03-14-2010, 03:08 AM

One big factor regarding your action are the nut slots. If your nut slots are not filed down to the appropriate depth, your guitar will never play well .

Raddar · 03-14-2010, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by diceman

One big factor regarding your action are the nut slots. If your nut slots are not filed down to the appropriate depth, your guitar will never play well .

well re adjusted the nut but i manage to remove the buzz from A and D strings but the Low E is still there but not that much i can still feel it in some songs. and all so if i didn't rise the bridge i wold have all my frets buzzing hence the high action

all so added hybrid string on it still removed a bit of the buzz but still didn't remove it

Raddar · 03-14-2010, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by diceman

One big factor regarding your action are the nut slots. If your nut slots are not filed down to the appropriate depth, your guitar will never play well .

and all so i cant chance the suddel because some Indonesian put too much glue on in.

dennistruckdriver · 03-14-2010, 09:55 AM

Are you skilled in working on guitars?

What's a 'suddel'?

El_Greco · 03-14-2010, 10:15 AM

Seriously dude you need to have your guitar set up by a pro.
Not trying to offend you, just how it is.

River · 03-14-2010, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Raddar

well the action is stupid high, for a unbearable fret buzz on the low E string and all so the bridge pick up is so god dam twangy (at least is seems that way to me compared to the neck one)

Have it set up. Don't use the bridge pickup, or pick further up towards the fret board when you do.

God thinks your bridge pickup is fine. She told me so last night.

Dolebludger · 03-14-2010, 02:42 PM

Raddar:

Welcome aboard. I think that your guitar sounds like many Epis I've heard of (including mine) that needed a new nut and a fret level/polish by a pro luthier to play well. If you buy another Epi, chances are good (I'm afraid) that you will have the same problem with it.

After having my luthier change out the nut on my '56 LP Goldtop P90 to a correctly grooved bone nut, and having a fret level/polish job done, I am now playing with stings set at .8mm above the top of the 12th fret (a little higher than 1/32") without buzz. My luthier set the neck dead level before the fret job. I like the neck near dead level (little if any relief) so it plays great. My luthier charged me $91 for this, and it was damn sure worth it.

If your bridge pup sounds too harsh, lower it. That usually does the trick.

Chef Greg · 03-14-2010, 03:18 PM

Buy this one so I won't be tempted ebay # 220570225306

stevie777 · 03-14-2010, 04:20 PM

what's up with that picture....something missing?

dennistruckdriver · 03-14-2010, 04:44 PM

No. It's a 'stop-tail' equipped guitar. No 'bridge' as we are more familiar with.

stevie777 · 03-14-2010, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dennistruckdriver

No. It's a 'stop-tail' equipped guitar. No 'bridge' as we are more familiar with.

i was wondering how you done the intonation, got it now....

stevie777 · 03-14-2010, 04:57 PM

EDIT, i was talking bollocks ......again....sorry

ops:

Chef Greg · 03-14-2010, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevie777

EDIT, i was talking bollocks ......again....sorry

ops:

...that's why they also make HALF pints, mate...

Raddar · 03-15-2010, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by dennistruckdriver

Are you skilled in working on guitars?

What's a 'suddel'?

If a guy that owns a Gibson ES 175 and plays jazz for more then 10 years isn't good enough to set up my guitar who is ?

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Dolebludger Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Yukon, OK Posts: 1,353 Thanks: 6 Thanked 10 Times in 4 Posts	Re: What Epiphone Les Paul Shold i get? Raddar: Welcome aboard. I think that your guitar sounds like many Epis I've heard of (including mine) that needed a new nut and a fret level/polish by a pro luthier to play well. If you buy another Epi, chances are good (I'm afraid) that you will have the same problem with it. After having my luthier change out the nut on my '56 LP Goldtop P90 to a correctly grooved bone nut, and having a fret level/polish job done, I am now playing with stings set at .8mm above the top of the 12th fret (a little higher than 1/32") without buzz. My luthier set the neck dead level before the fret job. I like the neck near dead level (little if any relief) so it plays great. My luthier charged me $91 for this, and it was damn sure worth it. If your bridge pup sounds too harsh, lower it. That usually does the trick.

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