Epiphone SG G-400 VS Epiphone Les Paul Goth

LPGoth · 10-06-2009, 07:15 PM

what the title says.

ledlover01 · 10-06-2009, 07:17 PM

I would rather a white g400

The_Sentry · 10-06-2009, 07:19 PM

G-400....

(here's the Goth model)

300 bucks out the door...

LPGoth · 10-06-2009, 07:24 PM

Sentry, 300 bucks out the door for the g400 goth, or the lp goth?

The_Sentry · 10-06-2009, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LPGoth

Sentry, 300 bucks out the door for the g400 goth, or the lp goth?

G400 Goth is listed at 299.00 from Musician's Friend..

Buy Epiphone Goth G-400 Electric Guitar | Solid Body Electric Guitars | Musician's Friend

I think as far as budget guitars you're probably better off with the SG model because of basic construction issues...in theory...

TBH I'd love to hear a head to head comparison between the 2.....

diceman · 10-06-2009, 07:43 PM

Tough call. I had a LP Goth. Loved it. The SG might be quite nice as well.

Just a curve ball - but I picked up a Gibson Faded SG new for $600 - I realize that it is twice as much money, but the bargain is huge if you can spare the extra $$.

captain tightpants · 10-06-2009, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diceman

Tough call. I had a LP Goth. Loved it. The SG might be quite nice as well.

Just a curve ball - but I picked up a Gibson Faded SG new for $600 - I realize that it is twice as much money, but the bargain is huge if you can spare the extra $$.

Did you get rid of your Goth?

I don't have any experience with the Epi Goth LP, but I can say I had to do a little work to get my G-400 to play the way I wanted. Not sure I'll ever buy another.

And I'll second the Faded SG endorsement, mine is currently enjoying most of the play time.

diceman · 10-06-2009, 07:58 PM

Mine is currently with Roman.

I sold the Goth and the Elitist Standard to fund that '65 Mustang.

captain tightpants · 10-06-2009, 08:08 PM

Oh, that's right, I forgot about that. Yeah, it was worth it for the Mustang, IMHO!!

LPGoth · 10-06-2009, 08:58 PM

im not really that type of player that does ANYTHING to the guitar. i just play it as is, pickups, tuners, etc..
Where is sinmastah when you need him?!
so uh... yeah.. the question is still on.. NORMAL g400 vs goth lp

diceman · 10-06-2009, 09:02 PM

Do you want a LP or a SG - that is your answer.

LPGoth · 10-06-2009, 09:05 PM

see, thats the thing! i cant decide. all those youtube vids were pieces of crap cuz you cant tell the difference in sound. on the goth, there are no inlays, so im gonna get stuck trying to find the frets. on the SG, it "supposedly has brighter and cheaper" sound than the lp, but it weighs less.
You guys have experience with both guitars, tell me the pros and cons
=] thx

diceman · 10-07-2009, 12:53 AM

They will sound practically the same.

Which style of guitar do you prefer to play - a Les Paul or a SG?

If you're not sure - head on down to the shop and check them out.

The strap button placement on the SG is a little strange. The upper fret access is great, though. The SG is a bit neck heavy. 3 way switch location is different. SG is quite a bit lighter. Both are great, though.

LEFTY LES · 10-07-2009, 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diceman

Just a curve ball - but I picked up a Gibson Faded SG new for $600 - I realize that it is twice as much money, but the bargain is huge if you can spare the extra $$.

Im with you dice. I've been wanting an SG for a bit now and I have my Epi LP for sale. If I ever sell it the money will go into a coffe can for either an Epi Sherry II (the only epi I'll ever buy again) or a Gibson SG. Eventually i will have both.

IMO the Gibson SG's are really a great deal right now. You can get them for less than an Epi custom which is just crazy to me.

diceman · 10-07-2009, 08:37 AM

The Faded SG is $700 - the LP Junior (faded) is almost $900. Why? The Special has a wrap bridge, not a bridge and tailpiece, it has 1/2 as many pots, 1/2 as many pickups, downgraded tuners, and is a slab body with no contouring (SG has more contours than a LP Junior). The Faded Specials are just Gibson's "Deal" right now - get 'em while they last at that price!! IIRC, the Faded SG's were $800-900 last year.

LPGoth · 10-07-2009, 07:58 PM

i think im gonna go with the LP.
Its too bad it doesnt have covered Pups and dots or markings at the 3,5,7,9,12 etc frets

oh yeah..and ^BUMP^

Sinmastah · 10-07-2009, 09:25 PM

Lespauls are overrated

Anyways, SG's are better, cheaper, lighter, have better tone, better access, and more badass.

diceman · 10-07-2009, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LPGoth

i think im gonna go with the LP.
Its too bad it doesnt have covered Pups and dots or markings at the 3,5,7,9,12 etc frets

oh yeah..and ^BUMP^

It does have a 12 marker.

And, if you look at the front of your fretboard when you play rather than the side markers, you're a douche.

LPGoth · 10-07-2009, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diceman

It does have a 12 marker.

And, if you look at the front of your fretboard when you play rather than the side markers, you're a douche.

well i guess im a douche then..

sin, where the hell were you when i needed you??

i thought lp's have better tone, quality, and are more badass.

diceman · 10-07-2009, 09:57 PM

Check out the badass inlays on my Rist:

And, SG's FEEL much different - they sound pretty much the same, though. We're talking about Chinese made Epis here - same crappy wood, different shape.

LPGoth · 10-07-2009, 10:04 PM

those are badass inlays.. but i see no resemblance to my problem

dont make my decision worse by telling me ITS MADE IN CHINA

DustyFloor · 10-08-2009, 03:06 AM

You have to weigh the pros and cons of both...it's a toss up...
-LP's have lots of sustain and a beefier construction
-G400's as with all SG's have good access to higher frets and a lot lighter

I have both a LP custom and a G400, I've barely played the SG since I got the LP but that's just me. Plus G400's have that ol' heavy ass neck..it's like a guillotine when you let go of it! It's really up to what feels and sounds the best to you and if inlays are a problem just get some installed.

LPGoth · 10-12-2009, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diceman

It does have a 12 marker.

And, if you look at the front of your fretboard when you play rather than the side markers, you're a douche.

whats wrong with it?

diceman · 10-12-2009, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LPGoth

whats wrong with it?

You responded to that same post last week. Whats up???

nbeersiii · 10-12-2009, 07:13 PM

I played a LP goth at the music store, I actually liked it more than I thought I would. The black satin finish was realy cool. It made the guitar feel like I was holding an M-16, Im used to the fret board with no inlays. I had a takamine for 10 years like that.

disom007 · 10-12-2009, 10:22 PM

Only two ways you can see the fretboard while playing...sit down and play like Jeff healy did.....or......bend over while standing up and playing....either way I would like to see a video of it.

People have already try to prove this to ya.Epiphone Les Paul Goth

diceman · 10-12-2009, 10:24 PM

...or if you play standing in front of a mirror...

nbeersiii · 10-12-2009, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sinmastah

Lespauls are overrated

Anyways, SG's are better, cheaper, lighter, have better tone, better access, and more badass.

I never realy thought I would hear a statement like that from you sin. I can hear a definate sound difrence in my LP vs my SG. They both sound great but the LP has a deeper tone due to the body and weight. I prefer my LP sound over the SG. I would never give up my SG though If I were in a band and was doing alot of leads I would probably use my SG for the brighter tone, depending on the song of course. My LP is my main guitar though and dont think they are overrated at all they live up to every standard as far as I can tell.

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LPGoth Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: LA Posts: 145 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Epiphone SG G-400 VS Epiphone Les Paul Goth im not really that type of player that does ANYTHING to the guitar. i just play it as is, pickups, tuners, etc.. Where is sinmastah when you need him?! so uh... yeah.. the question is still on.. NORMAL g400 vs goth lp __________________ OH HELLZ YEAH!!!! [

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LPGoth Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: LA Posts: 145 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Epiphone SG G-400 VS Epiphone Les Paul Goth see, thats the thing! i cant decide. all those youtube vids were pieces of crap cuz you cant tell the difference in sound. on the goth, there are no inlays, so im gonna get stuck trying to find the frets. on the SG, it "supposedly has brighter and cheaper" sound than the lp, but it weighs less. You guys have experience with both guitars, tell me the pros and cons =] thx __________________ OH HELLZ YEAH!!!! [

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diceman V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 19,250 Thanks: 487 Thanked 134 Times in 42 Posts	Re: Epiphone SG G-400 VS Epiphone Les Paul Goth They will sound practically the same. Which style of guitar do you prefer to play - a Les Paul or a SG? If you're not sure - head on down to the shop and check them out. The strap button placement on the SG is a little strange. The upper fret access is great, though. The SG is a bit neck heavy. 3 way switch location is different. SG is quite a bit lighter. Both are great, though. __________________ MLP member Travis "The Epiphone King" Boleskinehouse proudly endorses Epiphone musical instruments. "All good things come from China - including my guitars." -The Boles

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diceman V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 19,250 Thanks: 487 Thanked 134 Times in 42 Posts	Re: Epiphone SG G-400 VS Epiphone Les Paul Goth The Faded SG is $700 - the LP Junior (faded) is almost $900. Why? The Special has a wrap bridge, not a bridge and tailpiece, it has 1/2 as many pots, 1/2 as many pickups, downgraded tuners, and is a slab body with no contouring (SG has more contours than a LP Junior). The Faded Specials are just Gibson's "Deal" right now - get 'em while they last at that price!! IIRC, the Faded SG's were $800-900 last year. __________________ MLP member Travis "The Epiphone King" Boleskinehouse proudly endorses Epiphone musical instruments. "All good things come from China - including my guitars." -The Boles

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LPGoth Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: LA Posts: 145 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Epiphone SG G-400 VS Epiphone Les Paul Goth i think im gonna go with the LP. Its too bad it doesnt have covered Pups and dots or markings at the 3,5,7,9,12 etc frets oh yeah..and ^BUMP^ __________________ OH HELLZ YEAH!!!! [

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diceman V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 19,250 Thanks: 487 Thanked 134 Times in 42 Posts	Re: Epiphone SG G-400 VS Epiphone Les Paul Goth Check out the badass inlays on my Rist: And, SG's FEEL much different - they sound pretty much the same, though. We're talking about Chinese made Epis here - same crappy wood, different shape. __________________ MLP member Travis "The Epiphone King" Boleskinehouse proudly endorses Epiphone musical instruments. "All good things come from China - including my guitars." -The Boles

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LPGoth Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: LA Posts: 145 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Epiphone SG G-400 VS Epiphone Les Paul Goth those are badass inlays.. but i see no resemblance to my problem dont make my decision worse by telling me ITS MADE IN CHINA __________________ OH HELLZ YEAH!!!! [

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DustyFloor Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: STL Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	Re: Epiphone SG G-400 VS Epiphone Les Paul Goth You have to weigh the pros and cons of both...it's a toss up... -LP's have lots of sustain and a beefier construction -G400's as with all SG's have good access to higher frets and a lot lighter I have both a LP custom and a G400, I've barely played the SG since I got the LP but that's just me. Plus G400's have that ol' heavy ass neck..it's like a guillotine when you let go of it! It's really up to what feels and sounds the best to you and if inlays are a problem just get some installed.

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nbeersiii Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: spartanburg sc Posts: 1,553 Thanks: 23 Thanked 66 Times in 12 Posts	Re: Epiphone SG G-400 VS Epiphone Les Paul Goth I played a LP goth at the music store, I actually liked it more than I thought I would. The black satin finish was realy cool. It made the guitar feel like I was holding an M-16, Im used to the fret board with no inlays. I had a takamine for 10 years like that.

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disom007 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 130 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Epiphone SG G-400 VS Epiphone Les Paul Goth Only two ways you can see the fretboard while playing...sit down and play like Jeff healy did.....or......bend over while standing up and playing....either way I would like to see a video of it. People have already try to prove this to ya.Epiphone Les Paul Goth __________________ 1987 Gibson Les Paul Custom Alpine White 1998 Epi Les Paul Ice Tea Burst 1983 Fender USA Strat 3 Tone Sunburst 1983 Fender USA Strat Vintage White 1970 Fender Telecaster Washburn D-21 S/N Acoustic ........and others.

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diceman V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 19,250 Thanks: 487 Thanked 134 Times in 42 Posts	Re: Epiphone SG G-400 VS Epiphone Les Paul Goth ...or if you play standing in front of a mirror... __________________ MLP member Travis "The Epiphone King" Boleskinehouse proudly endorses Epiphone musical instruments. "All good things come from China - including my guitars." -The Boles

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