The Fake Epiphone Thread II - Page 4

Eric052492 · 02-05-2009, 09:32 PM

I checked the serial number and this is what i got:

Your guitar was made at the
Sae Jung Plant, China
October 2003
Production Number: 8245

GNR4EVR · 02-05-2009, 09:39 PM

Its probably ok, but I would seek experience from folks that know Juniors more.. Wish we could be of more help.

Eric052492 · 02-05-2009, 09:43 PM

I'm assuming its real because I don't think people would really waste their time making fakes of cheap guitars..

GNR4EVR · 02-05-2009, 09:48 PM

Personally, I have never even heard of a Junior being faked, but then theres a first time for everything, and I just dont want to staple a firm "real" on that one unless I know for sure. That wouldnt be right for you, or the seller.

AdrielTimothealovesLps · 02-05-2009, 09:55 PM

i have one of those juniors for sale

it has p90 !

RemCarr · 02-06-2009, 12:08 AM

check this one, i think its the real deal but the knobs look a little off to me, could just be the angle of the pic....thoughts?

Sinmastah · 02-06-2009, 12:19 AM

Whoa, a legit Silverburst. Never seen one of them, at least not in a long time.

RemCarr · 02-06-2009, 12:27 AM

sweet dude, i thought so too but i was a little weirded out by the knobs and the fact that there is SO damn many fakes....sweet, she will be mine then, stay tuned!

- Mike

GNR4EVR · 02-06-2009, 11:36 AM

Yep, Beware of Silverbursts, The Slash's and the entire Zakk Wilde line. LOADS of fakes of them out there.

tonedogg66 · 02-06-2009, 03:11 PM

HI guys new to this forum, looked at murrays fake custom, i have a dodgy looking standard and the control cavity looks similar to Murrays and the serial No is very close, Murray if you're still about where did you get yours from? here are some pics what do you guys think. It's supposed to be an 06 model

tonedogg66 · 02-06-2009, 03:32 PM

oops hope picks come now

GNR4EVR · 02-06-2009, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonedogg66

oops hope picks come now

Yes, its fake.

tonedogg66 · 02-06-2009, 03:43 PM

thought so, bought a legit one and could tell the difference straight away, just a warning guys if you live in the UK and use google checkout you are not covered by credit card protection, as I have just found out, got that piece of crap from MZonline, yes I am another 1 suckered in.

purevilpleasure · 02-06-2009, 03:48 PM

You guys ever want some close up pics of a silverburst i got one 2 feet from me right now, got it last year from MF for 500 bucks, can see some pics of it in my album. They are better looking in person I tell ya....

donk

AdrielTimothealovesLps · 02-07-2009, 12:55 AM

lol one person voted no what a hater

GNR4EVR · 02-07-2009, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdrielTimothealovesLps

lol one person voted no what a hater

*cough* Gibby Guy *cough* *cough*
Seriously, well within their right if this does nothing for them.

Sinmastah · 02-07-2009, 11:27 AM

Meh, I don't really care that much. He doesn't think it's useful because he doesn't use it I guess. Not my problem if he buys a fake gibby.

djwilbanks · 02-07-2009, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sinmastah

Meh, I don't really care that much. He doesn't think it's useful because he doesn't use it I guess. Not my problem if he buys a fake gibby.

Yep, even though a lot of the same rules apply................

purevilpleasure · 02-07-2009, 09:59 PM

Hey guys i have a question for ya, today i went to a music store that i've never been too and checked out what they had, not a gibson dealer so i wasn't expecting much, but some thing caught my eye, it was a burst plaintop Epi with the gibson headstock. So i kinda got excited and pulled it down to see if it was a jap built or an elitist, but there wasn't a serial number, it had a sticker that looked like it had a few numbers but i couldn't really make them out, and i looked but couldn't find a 2nd stamped any where, so have you seen many fakes with the gibson headstock?? Also as a side note the poor thing needed alot of love, all the hardware was corroted and it had a few dings in it and asking was 400 bucks.

GNR4EVR · 02-07-2009, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by purevilpleasure

Hey guys i have a question for ya, today i went to a music store that i've never been too and checked out what they had, not a gibson dealer so i wasn't expecting much, but some thing caught my eye, it was a burst plaintop Epi with the gibson headstock. So i kinda got excited and pulled it down to see if it was a jap built or an elitist, but there wasn't a serial number, it had a sticker that looked like it had a few numbers but i couldn't really make them out, and i looked but couldn't find a 2nd stamped any where, so have you seen many fakes with the gibson headstock?? Also as a side note the poor thing needed alot of love, all the hardware was corroted and it had a few dings in it and asking was 400 bucks.

Hmmm, it sounds like a MIJ alright. The sticker means its "used" so no warrantee. They scrape the serial when they do that. It might be ok, but needs a closer look to verify it is indeed a MIJ. If it is,
and the damage isn't to bad, it might very well be worth the 400.00.

djwilbanks · 02-08-2009, 08:44 AM

Sounds like an early (89-90) MIK as well. Make sure the open book doesn't taper at the top. Most MIKs of that time had sticker serials. They're great guitars in their own right.

GNR4EVR · 02-08-2009, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by purevilpleasure

Hey guys i have a question for ya, today i went to a music store that i've never been too and checked out what they had, not a gibson dealer so i wasn't expecting much, but some thing caught my eye, it was a burst plaintop Epi with the gibson headstock. So i kinda got excited and pulled it down to see if it was a jap built or an elitist, but there wasn't a serial number, it had a sticker that looked like it had a few numbers but i couldn't really make them out, and i looked but couldn't find a 2nd stamped any where, so have you seen many fakes with the gibson headstock?? Also as a side note the poor thing needed alot of love, all the hardware was corroted and it had a few dings in it and asking was 400 bucks.

Any chance you could sneak some pics?

djwilbanks · 02-08-2009, 09:08 AM

+1

purevilpleasure · 02-08-2009, 11:06 AM

Well i'm sure i can get some pics but DJ you hit it, i didn't say it when i first posted but the headstock did look tappered to me, it was the first thing i said to my girlfried when i had it in my hands, and the only other les paul that had the same headstock was a gibson and i sure wasn't touching a 1800 dollor guitar and something happen. I kinda was thrown off by that tapper and that's why i asked if they made any fakes of the open headstock.

thanks guys, next time i'm down by there i will try to sneak pics, i couldn't find my phone when i was in there it fell out my pocket in my truck.

donk

DaveLPGT · 02-08-2009, 12:11 PM

this is a cool site:
The Guitar Dater Project - Epiphone Serial Number Decoder

Sinmastah · 02-08-2009, 01:21 PM

It's a nice site to figure out where and when you Epi was made, but does not garuntee authenticity. For example, go to EE101099999

You will see your guitar was created in 2010, and they made 99,999 guitars that month...

djwilbanks · 02-08-2009, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by purevilpleasure

Well i'm sure i can get some pics but DJ you hit it, i didn't say it when i first posted but the headstock did look tappered to me, it was the first thing i said to my girlfried when i had it in my hands, and the only other les paul that had the same headstock was a gibson and i sure wasn't touching a 1800 dollor guitar and something happen. I kinda was thrown off by that tapper and that's why i asked if they made any fakes of the open headstock.

thanks guys, next time i'm down by there i will try to sneak pics, i couldn't find my phone when i was in there it fell out my pocket in my truck.

donk

those are certainly unique guitars. Pawn shops talk different stories when cash is involved. I would think you could get that thing out if there for 300 easy.

EDIT: I didn't notice where you said it was at a local music store. All the same, they'll bite if you're talking cash and talk about how you'd have to replace the corroded hardware and whatnot.

GNR4EVR · 02-08-2009, 03:45 PM

+1. And a lot of them dont know guitars, so theres some playing room there.

DaveLPGT · 02-08-2009, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sinmastah

It's a nice site to figure out where and when you Epi was made, but does not garuntee authenticity. For example, go to EE101099999

You will see your guitar was created in 2010, and they made 99,999 guitars that month...

Can Epiphone provide information directly? Mine looks pretty authentic in it's alignment and setup. Although I have replaced a lot of parts with Gibson bits now anyway.

GNR4EVR · 02-08-2009, 03:51 PM

They are slow to respond, but yes.

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02-05-2009, 09:32 PM	#91 (permalink)
Eric052492 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Garden City, New York Posts: 347 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread II I checked the serial number and this is what i got: Your guitar was made at the Sae Jung Plant, China October 2003 Production Number: 8245 __________________ Guitars/Bass -Alpine White Epiphone Les Paul Custom -Squier Stratocaster HSS -Pete Wentz Signature Squier Precision Bass Amplification -Epiphone Studio 15R -Fender Frontman 212R -Fender Rumble 15 Bass Combo Amp Effects -Boss DS-1 Distortion Pedal -Edirol UA-4FX

02-05-2009, 09:39 PM	#92 (permalink)
GNR4EVR Epi Verification Expert Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Southern Maryland (No, Im not a SMIB) Posts: 7,208 Thanks: 318 Thanked 330 Times in 57 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread II Its probably ok, but I would seek experience from folks that know Juniors more.. Wish we could be of more help. __________________ 2005 Epiphone Elitist Standard Plus Honeyburst *MOJO-ED!* Dean Hardtail Red Tiger Fender squire Bass Morell jumbo accoustic Marshall Micro Stack

02-05-2009, 09:43 PM	#93 (permalink)
Eric052492 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Garden City, New York Posts: 347 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread II I'm assuming its real because I don't think people would really waste their time making fakes of cheap guitars.. __________________ Guitars/Bass -Alpine White Epiphone Les Paul Custom -Squier Stratocaster HSS -Pete Wentz Signature Squier Precision Bass Amplification -Epiphone Studio 15R -Fender Frontman 212R -Fender Rumble 15 Bass Combo Amp Effects -Boss DS-1 Distortion Pedal -Edirol UA-4FX

02-05-2009, 09:48 PM	#94 (permalink)
GNR4EVR Epi Verification Expert Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Southern Maryland (No, Im not a SMIB) Posts: 7,208 Thanks: 318 Thanked 330 Times in 57 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread II Personally, I have never even heard of a Junior being faked, but then theres a first time for everything, and I just dont want to staple a firm "real" on that one unless I know for sure. That wouldnt be right for you, or the seller. __________________ 2005 Epiphone Elitist Standard Plus Honeyburst *MOJO-ED!* Dean Hardtail Red Tiger Fender squire Bass Morell jumbo accoustic Marshall Micro Stack

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02-05-2009, 09:55 PM	#95 (permalink)
AdrielTimothealovesLps Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: SG, California Posts: 201 Thanks: 15 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread II i have one of those juniors for sale it has p90 ! __________________ awesome I <3 Lps

02-06-2009, 12:08 AM	#96 (permalink)
RemCarr Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 801 Thanks: 19 Thanked 12 Times in 5 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread II check this one, i think its the real deal but the knobs look a little off to me, could just be the angle of the pic....thoughts?

02-06-2009, 12:19 AM	#97 (permalink)
Sinmastah Epi Verification Expert Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Minnesota. Posts: 16,403 Thanks: 8 Thanked 611 Times in 108 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread II Whoa, a legit Silverburst. Never seen one of them, at least not in a long time. __________________ Epiphone Elitist SG Faded Cherry(Jonesey'd and WB'd) Epiphone Elitist SG Faded Brown (EMG's) Epiphone MIJ Les Paul Ebony LQ Fender Mexi Oly White Strat Squier Natural Vintage M Jazz bass Peavey Classic 50 SG's FTW

02-06-2009, 12:27 AM	#98 (permalink)
RemCarr Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 801 Thanks: 19 Thanked 12 Times in 5 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread II sweet dude, i thought so too but i was a little weirded out by the knobs and the fact that there is SO damn many fakes....sweet, she will be mine then, stay tuned! - Mike

02-06-2009, 11:36 AM	#99 (permalink)
GNR4EVR Epi Verification Expert Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Southern Maryland (No, Im not a SMIB) Posts: 7,208 Thanks: 318 Thanked 330 Times in 57 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread II Yep, Beware of Silverbursts, The Slash's and the entire Zakk Wilde line. LOADS of fakes of them out there. __________________ 2005 Epiphone Elitist Standard Plus Honeyburst *MOJO-ED!* Dean Hardtail Red Tiger Fender squire Bass Morell jumbo accoustic Marshall Micro Stack

02-06-2009, 03:11 PM	#100 (permalink)
tonedogg66 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread II HI guys new to this forum, looked at murrays fake custom, i have a dodgy looking standard and the control cavity looks similar to Murrays and the serial No is very close, Murray if you're still about where did you get yours from? here are some pics what do you guys think. It's supposed to be an 06 model

02-06-2009, 03:43 PM	#103 (permalink)
tonedogg66 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread II thought so, bought a legit one and could tell the difference straight away, just a warning guys if you live in the UK and use google checkout you are not covered by credit card protection, as I have just found out, got that piece of crap from MZonline, yes I am another 1 suckered in.

02-06-2009, 03:48 PM	#104 (permalink)
purevilpleasure This space for rent! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Iowa Posts: 4,495 Thanks: 53 Thanked 80 Times in 20 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread II You guys ever want some close up pics of a silverburst i got one 2 feet from me right now, got it last year from MF for 500 bucks, can see some pics of it in my album. They are better looking in person I tell ya.... donk

02-07-2009, 12:55 AM	#105 (permalink)
AdrielTimothealovesLps Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: SG, California Posts: 201 Thanks: 15 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread II lol one person voted no what a hater __________________ awesome I <3 Lps

02-07-2009, 11:27 AM	#107 (permalink)
Sinmastah Epi Verification Expert Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Minnesota. Posts: 16,403 Thanks: 8 Thanked 611 Times in 108 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread II Meh, I don't really care that much. He doesn't think it's useful because he doesn't use it I guess. Not my problem if he buys a fake gibby. __________________ Epiphone Elitist SG Faded Cherry(Jonesey'd and WB'd) Epiphone Elitist SG Faded Brown (EMG's) Epiphone MIJ Les Paul Ebony LQ Fender Mexi Oly White Strat Squier Natural Vintage M Jazz bass Peavey Classic 50 SG's FTW

02-07-2009, 09:59 PM	#109 (permalink)
purevilpleasure This space for rent! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Iowa Posts: 4,495 Thanks: 53 Thanked 80 Times in 20 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread II Hey guys i have a question for ya, today i went to a music store that i've never been too and checked out what they had, not a gibson dealer so i wasn't expecting much, but some thing caught my eye, it was a burst plaintop Epi with the gibson headstock. So i kinda got excited and pulled it down to see if it was a jap built or an elitist, but there wasn't a serial number, it had a sticker that looked like it had a few numbers but i couldn't really make them out, and i looked but couldn't find a 2nd stamped any where, so have you seen many fakes with the gibson headstock?? Also as a side note the poor thing needed alot of love, all the hardware was corroted and it had a few dings in it and asking was 400 bucks.

02-08-2009, 08:44 AM	#111 (permalink)
djwilbanks V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Arkham Asylum Posts: 27,776 Thanks: 220 Thanked 443 Times in 82 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread II Sounds like an early (89-90) MIK as well. Make sure the open book doesn't taper at the top. Most MIKs of that time had sticker serials. They're great guitars in their own right. __________________ This post happily existed in all possible states until you observed it. Now it has collapsed into a single state. I hope you're happy. Click Deadpool for my Soundcloud page.

02-08-2009, 09:08 AM	#113 (permalink)
djwilbanks V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Arkham Asylum Posts: 27,776 Thanks: 220 Thanked 443 Times in 82 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread II +1 __________________ This post happily existed in all possible states until you observed it. Now it has collapsed into a single state. I hope you're happy. Click Deadpool for my Soundcloud page.

02-08-2009, 11:06 AM	#114 (permalink)
purevilpleasure This space for rent! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Iowa Posts: 4,495 Thanks: 53 Thanked 80 Times in 20 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread II Well i'm sure i can get some pics but DJ you hit it, i didn't say it when i first posted but the headstock did look tappered to me, it was the first thing i said to my girlfried when i had it in my hands, and the only other les paul that had the same headstock was a gibson and i sure wasn't touching a 1800 dollor guitar and something happen. I kinda was thrown off by that tapper and that's why i asked if they made any fakes of the open headstock. thanks guys, next time i'm down by there i will try to sneak pics, i couldn't find my phone when i was in there it fell out my pocket in my truck. donk

02-08-2009, 12:11 PM	#115 (permalink)
DaveLPGT Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 25 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread II this is a cool site: The Guitar Dater Project - Epiphone Serial Number Decoder

02-08-2009, 01:21 PM	#116 (permalink)
Sinmastah Epi Verification Expert Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Minnesota. Posts: 16,403 Thanks: 8 Thanked 611 Times in 108 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread II It's a nice site to figure out where and when you Epi was made, but does not garuntee authenticity. For example, go to EE101099999 You will see your guitar was created in 2010, and they made 99,999 guitars that month... __________________ Epiphone Elitist SG Faded Cherry(Jonesey'd and WB'd) Epiphone Elitist SG Faded Brown (EMG's) Epiphone MIJ Les Paul Ebony LQ Fender Mexi Oly White Strat Squier Natural Vintage M Jazz bass Peavey Classic 50 SG's FTW

02-08-2009, 03:45 PM	#118 (permalink)
GNR4EVR Epi Verification Expert Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Southern Maryland (No, Im not a SMIB) Posts: 7,208 Thanks: 318 Thanked 330 Times in 57 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread II +1. And a lot of them dont know guitars, so theres some playing room there. __________________ 2005 Epiphone Elitist Standard Plus Honeyburst *MOJO-ED!* Dean Hardtail Red Tiger Fender squire Bass Morell jumbo accoustic Marshall Micro Stack

02-08-2009, 03:51 PM	#120 (permalink)
GNR4EVR Epi Verification Expert Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Southern Maryland (No, Im not a SMIB) Posts: 7,208 Thanks: 318 Thanked 330 Times in 57 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread II They are slow to respond, but yes. __________________ 2005 Epiphone Elitist Standard Plus Honeyburst *MOJO-ED!* Dean Hardtail Red Tiger Fender squire Bass Morell jumbo accoustic Marshall Micro Stack

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