The Fake Epiphone Thread II - Page 353

straybeat · 08-08-2012, 12:21 PM

Hi Mark, I'm Mark also. It depends on how bad you want your money back? I would show the guy this thread and prove to him that it's a fake. Since you were defrauded from the beginning he owes you your money back, even though it's been a year.

paruwi · 08-08-2012, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjdmjdum

As expected.
The question is do I just suck it up and move on or try and get my money back?

worst case is - you don't get it back....

so I would try it

BTW, you need an 'official' prove from Gibson/Epi customer-Service

sent the pic and they will do it

davies · 08-08-2012, 12:32 PM

mjdmjdum,

best to email pics to the European customer services department service.europe@gibson.com because the US bunch sometimes get it wrong (although I'm fairly certain even they couldn't balls this one up).

mjdmjdum · 08-08-2012, 01:13 PM

Thanks for the help guys,.

I put in a cursory email to Gibson yesterday and they have asked for the photos. I have also advised the original seller and await his reponse.
Fingers crossed!

GNR4EVR · 08-10-2012, 08:09 AM

This thread, combined with original "The Fake Epiphone Thread" is now 4 years old, can ya believe that? Millions saved, broken hearts mended, disasters thwarted, and the beat goes on and on.... Thank you to all involved, especially alex who helped make it happen!

mjdmjdum · 08-10-2012, 02:43 PM

Turns out the guitar came from Epirockon - Case Closed

straybeat · 08-10-2012, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjdmjdum

Turns out the guitar came from Epirockon - Case Closed

I see he's no longer a registered user. Must be using another fake name now?

mjd · 08-11-2012, 01:41 PM

I believe the original owner bought the guitar in 2009 which would seem to tie in with epirockon's era so to speak. No idea if he is still trading.

Carl17 · 08-14-2012, 12:18 PM

Epiphone Les Paul Standard Model For Sale in Prosperous, Kildare. Buy Electric Guitars
Can anyone tell me if this is fake? There's no pic of the serial, but the logo just looked angled a bit too much and it looks like it's too high up on the headstock.

Barcham · 08-14-2012, 12:48 PM

Why do people bother posting reversed pictures in an ad? Unbelievable. I can't tell if it's real from those pics. We really need to see the serial number to make a call on it.

Hack · 08-14-2012, 12:58 PM

I agree.
I would rip him one if I had a user name on there... but its not worth the trouble...

Carl17 · 08-14-2012, 01:12 PM

OK thanks anyway, I won't be buying it but I wouldn't want to see someone else buy a fake guitar without knowing so I just wanted to post it here and see what you think.

badilosu · 08-15-2012, 10:50 AM

Hello guys! I'm glad I found this topic because I've found an Epihone LP Custom Plus here in Romania and I would like to know if it's a fake. I have some doubts. Thank you!

paruwi · 08-15-2012, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badilosu

Hello guys! I'm glad I found this topic because I've found an Epihone LP Custom Plus here in Romania and I would like to know if it's a fake. I have some doubts. Thank you!

Hi

and Welcome here

seems to be fine,

a side shot where the neck meets the headstock and
a view inside the control-cavity would be fine to get more sure

badilosu · 08-15-2012, 11:09 AM

Thank you for your answer. I asked the seller to send me more photos. He will send them later and I'll upload them here.

paruwi · 08-15-2012, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badilosu

Thank you for your answer. I asked the seller to send me more photos. He will send them later and I'll upload them here.

What is the asked price for it ?

badilosu · 08-15-2012, 11:14 AM

About 250 euro.

paruwi · 08-15-2012, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badilosu

About 250 euro.

it will be a really good price....

hope the other pics wont ruin it...

666dime · 08-19-2012, 12:31 AM

Hey guys, I'm new to the forum but I've gotta say, what a useful forum for anything les pauls i wish i found this years ago! Anyway to my question, I'm looking at this LP on ebay and just wondering on the experts opinion. Thanks in advance for any help offered

2001 GIBSON EPIPHONE LIMITED EDITION LES PAUL STANDARD IN GR8 CONDITION | eBay

davies · 08-19-2012, 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 666dime

Hey guys, I'm new to the forum but I've gotta say, what a useful forum for anything les pauls i wish i found this years ago! Anyway to my question, I'm looking at this LP on ebay and just wondering on the experts opinion. Thanks in advance for any help offered

2001 GIBSON EPIPHONE LIMITED EDITION LES PAUL STANDARD IN GR8 CONDITION | eBay

It's genuine.

And welcome to MLP.

badilosu · 08-20-2012, 03:59 PM

As I said before, I came back with more pictures. So, what do you think? Is it genuine?

badilosu · 08-20-2012, 04:01 PM

And more...

davies · 08-20-2012, 04:06 PM

Looks genuine to me mate. Also, given its production date of December 2008, it's one of the last (hundred? thousand?) Custom Plus tops made.

daniboy · 08-21-2012, 07:51 AM

Hi guys!

I recently bought a used Epiphone Standard Les Paul and after spend long time searching on internet I couldn't identify which model it exactly is... So i started to suspect that it could be a fake guitar =\.

On the back of the head is stamped the word USED. I read that it could be a used or refurbished product.. to me, it is not a problem. The problem is the authencity.

Please help me with that!
I took some pictures. If the angles are not enough I could take some more.

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/54/pictx.jpg
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http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9711/pic5as.jpg
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http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/12/pic4u.jpg
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http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/2045/pic3wk.jpg
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http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/6017/pic2ynw.jpg
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Thank you guys!

davies · 08-21-2012, 08:03 AM

She's genuine.

To me, it's a Honeyburst Standard Plaintop.

Sweet as mate.

Don't worry about it being 'used' - in most cases, the original defect/problem with guitars such as these is usually so insignificant that most would struggle to have known there even was a defect/problem.

daniboy · 08-21-2012, 08:22 AM

Thank you davies!!!

The color is more like a vintage sunburst or tobacco sunburst.
It's stamped only STANDARD on the front of the head.

I am almost relieved now.

This two diferent woods on the back of neck (fourth picture) is really normal?

Another thing that took my atention was the direction of the "texture" on the body. Its like vertical and not horizontal (like the epiphone lp guitars i've searched on internet).

56GT · 08-21-2012, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daniboy

Hi guys!

I recently bought a used Epiphone Standard Les Paul and after spend long time searching on internet I couldn't identify which model it exactly is... So i started to suspect that it could be a fake guitar =\.

On the back of the head is stamped the word USED. I read that it could be a used or refurbished product.. to me, it is not a problem. The problem is the authencity.

Please help me with that!
I took some pictures. If the angles are not enough I could take some more.

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/54/pictx.jpg
-
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9711/pic5as.jpg
-
http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/12/pic4u.jpg
-
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/2045/pic3wk.jpg
-
http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/6017/pic2ynw.jpg
-

Thank you guys!

that there is a nice looking git!

davies · 08-21-2012, 08:26 AM

No worries mate.

Re the colour - that's why I said started by saying 'To me...'

As for the 'verticalness' of the grain - plaintops are like that. The other guitars you've seen on the internet will have been Plus Tops. Their 'stripes' will be horizontal.

daniboy · 08-21-2012, 08:38 AM

Thank you so much!

Obs.
I wrote about the color because I thought it could be a important information to identify the guitar and my camera and yellow light on my room could alter the real color too much.

davies · 08-21-2012, 09:42 AM

No worries again mate.

On the whole, colour is not primary when determining model, although it can help sometimes.

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08-08-2012, 12:21 PM	#10561 (permalink)
straybeat Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Phoenix Posts: 2,022 Thanks: 7 Thanked 16 Times in 11 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread II Hi Mark, I'm Mark also. It depends on how bad you want your money back? I would show the guy this thread and prove to him that it's a fake. Since you were defrauded from the beginning he owes you your money back, even though it's been a year. __________________ Worrying works. 90% of what I worry about never happens!

08-08-2012, 12:32 PM	#10563 (permalink)
davies Epi Verification Expert Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: South Wales, UK Posts: 3,074 Thanks: 1 Thanked 35 Times in 11 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread II mjdmjdum, best to email pics to the European customer services department service.europe@gibson.com because the US bunch sometimes get it wrong (although I'm fairly certain even they couldn't balls this one up). Barcham and 56GT like this. __________________ 1981 Ibanez Destroyer II - my first guitar 2001 White Pearloid E-series 2005 White Custom 2005 Classic GT 2005 Squire Strat 2007 Natural Custom Plus 2007 Prophecy GX 2008 Blue Std Plus 2008 Gibson Standard Faded Tobacco (my daughter's) 2010 Ibanez SA260FM TLB (my woman's) Pics of them all here if you're interested

08-08-2012, 01:13 PM	#10564 (permalink)
mjdmjdum Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread II Thanks for the help guys,. I put in a cursory email to Gibson yesterday and they have asked for the photos. I have also advised the original seller and await his reponse. Fingers crossed!

08-10-2012, 08:09 AM	#10565 (permalink)
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08-10-2012, 02:43 PM	#10566 (permalink)
mjdmjdum Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread II Turns out the guitar came from Epirockon - Case Closed

08-11-2012, 01:41 PM	#10568 (permalink)
mjd Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread II I believe the original owner bought the guitar in 2009 which would seem to tie in with epirockon's era so to speak. No idea if he is still trading.

08-14-2012, 12:18 PM	#10569 (permalink)
Carl17 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 343 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread II Epiphone Les Paul Standard Model For Sale in Prosperous, Kildare. Buy Electric Guitars Can anyone tell me if this is fake? There's no pic of the serial, but the logo just looked angled a bit too much and it looks like it's too high up on the headstock.

08-14-2012, 12:48 PM	#10570 (permalink)
Barcham V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 4,863 Thanks: 58 Thanked 70 Times in 21 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread II Why do people bother posting reversed pictures in an ad? Unbelievable. I can't tell if it's real from those pics. We really need to see the serial number to make a call on it. Hack and 56GT like this. __________________ '04 MiJ Epi Elitist '57 Gold Top Les Paul '04 MiJ Epi Elitist '61 SG Faded Cherry '04 MiK Epi G-400 Vintage Faded Brown '08 MiC Epi Les Paul Ebony Standard '08 MiK Epi Les Paul Midnight Ebony Ultra II Peavey Vypyr 30 + Sanpera II pedal Roland Micro Cube Crate CA30DG Taos Acoustic amp The Guitar Dater web site does NOT help you determine if a guitar is real or fake. It ONLY decodes the serial number and it does not decode any sn newer than 2008.

08-14-2012, 12:58 PM	#10571 (permalink)
Hack Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: In the middle of the woods. Oklahoma Posts: 10,850 Thanks: 303 Thanked 178 Times in 33 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread II I agree. I would rip him one if I had a user name on there... but its not worth the trouble... __________________ The water is rising up on me. Thought the sun would come deliver me, but the truth has come to punish me instead.

08-14-2012, 01:12 PM	#10572 (permalink)
Carl17 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 343 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread II OK thanks anyway, I won't be buying it but I wouldn't want to see someone else buy a fake guitar without knowing so I just wanted to post it here and see what you think.

08-15-2012, 11:09 AM	#10575 (permalink)
badilosu Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread II Thank you for your answer. I asked the seller to send me more photos. He will send them later and I'll upload them here.

08-15-2012, 11:14 AM	#10577 (permalink)
badilosu Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread II About 250 euro.

08-19-2012, 12:31 AM	#10579 (permalink)
666dime Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread II Hey guys, I'm new to the forum but I've gotta say, what a useful forum for anything les pauls i wish i found this years ago! Anyway to my question, I'm looking at this LP on ebay and just wondering on the experts opinion. Thanks in advance for any help offered 2001 GIBSON EPIPHONE LIMITED EDITION LES PAUL STANDARD IN GR8 CONDITION \| eBay

08-20-2012, 04:06 PM	#10583 (permalink)
davies Epi Verification Expert Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: South Wales, UK Posts: 3,074 Thanks: 1 Thanked 35 Times in 11 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread II Looks genuine to me mate. Also, given its production date of December 2008, it's one of the last (hundred? thousand?) Custom Plus tops made. __________________ 1981 Ibanez Destroyer II - my first guitar 2001 White Pearloid E-series 2005 White Custom 2005 Classic GT 2005 Squire Strat 2007 Natural Custom Plus 2007 Prophecy GX 2008 Blue Std Plus 2008 Gibson Standard Faded Tobacco (my daughter's) 2010 Ibanez SA260FM TLB (my woman's) Pics of them all here if you're interested

08-21-2012, 07:51 AM	#10584 (permalink)
daniboy Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread II Hi guys! I recently bought a used Epiphone Standard Les Paul and after spend long time searching on internet I couldn't identify which model it exactly is... So i started to suspect that it could be a fake guitar =\. On the back of the head is stamped the word USED. I read that it could be a used or refurbished product.. to me, it is not a problem. The problem is the authencity. Please help me with that! I took some pictures. If the angles are not enough I could take some more. http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/54/pictx.jpg - http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9711/pic5as.jpg - http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/12/pic4u.jpg - http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/2045/pic3wk.jpg - http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/6017/pic2ynw.jpg - Thank you guys!

08-21-2012, 08:03 AM	#10585 (permalink)
davies Epi Verification Expert Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: South Wales, UK Posts: 3,074 Thanks: 1 Thanked 35 Times in 11 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread II She's genuine. To me, it's a Honeyburst Standard Plaintop. Sweet as mate. Don't worry about it being 'used' - in most cases, the original defect/problem with guitars such as these is usually so insignificant that most would struggle to have known there even was a defect/problem. daniboy likes this. __________________ 1981 Ibanez Destroyer II - my first guitar 2001 White Pearloid E-series 2005 White Custom 2005 Classic GT 2005 Squire Strat 2007 Natural Custom Plus 2007 Prophecy GX 2008 Blue Std Plus 2008 Gibson Standard Faded Tobacco (my daughter's) 2010 Ibanez SA260FM TLB (my woman's) Pics of them all here if you're interested

08-21-2012, 08:22 AM	#10586 (permalink)
daniboy Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread II Thank you davies!!! The color is more like a vintage sunburst or tobacco sunburst. It's stamped only STANDARD on the front of the head. I am almost relieved now. This two diferent woods on the back of neck (fourth picture) is really normal? Another thing that took my atention was the direction of the "texture" on the body. Its like vertical and not horizontal (like the epiphone lp guitars i've searched on internet).

08-21-2012, 08:26 AM	#10588 (permalink)
davies Epi Verification Expert Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: South Wales, UK Posts: 3,074 Thanks: 1 Thanked 35 Times in 11 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread II No worries mate. Re the colour - that's why I said started by saying 'To me...' As for the 'verticalness' of the grain - plaintops are like that. The other guitars you've seen on the internet will have been Plus Tops. Their 'stripes' will be horizontal. daniboy likes this. __________________ 1981 Ibanez Destroyer II - my first guitar 2001 White Pearloid E-series 2005 White Custom 2005 Classic GT 2005 Squire Strat 2007 Natural Custom Plus 2007 Prophecy GX 2008 Blue Std Plus 2008 Gibson Standard Faded Tobacco (my daughter's) 2010 Ibanez SA260FM TLB (my woman's) Pics of them all here if you're interested

08-21-2012, 08:38 AM	#10589 (permalink)
daniboy Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread II Thank you so much! Obs. I wrote about the color because I thought it could be a important information to identify the guitar and my camera and yellow light on my room could alter the real color too much.

08-21-2012, 09:42 AM	#10590 (permalink)
davies Epi Verification Expert Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: South Wales, UK Posts: 3,074 Thanks: 1 Thanked 35 Times in 11 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread II No worries again mate. On the whole, colour is not primary when determining model, although it can help sometimes. __________________ 1981 Ibanez Destroyer II - my first guitar 2001 White Pearloid E-series 2005 White Custom 2005 Classic GT 2005 Squire Strat 2007 Natural Custom Plus 2007 Prophecy GX 2008 Blue Std Plus 2008 Gibson Standard Faded Tobacco (my daughter's) 2010 Ibanez SA260FM TLB (my woman's) Pics of them all here if you're interested

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