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Epiphone Les Paul Custom - how good is it...

...really?

Or - the title could be "I'm a total jerk!!!"

Here's what happened. I was looking for a not-so-expensive-alternative to my Burny for travelling purpose. Something that sounded good, was fun to play on but could take a scratch or two without me going crazy. I almost bought a $600 "Epiphone Les Paul Custom - Ebony w/ Mirror Pickgaurd Ltd. Ed." which is on a sale camaign here in Sweden now. Original prize is said to be $1140.

But instead I fell head over heels for a Gibson LP Classic and bought that, thinking I should downgrade my Burny to travel-axe and beater.

I'm now sheepishly back on square one - can't really toss any of these beauties around like i forsee (yes - I do have good hard cases for both, but I'm seeing this travel guitar being treated a little rough all the same), so I'm again looking at the Epi LP Custom.

Any of you know this and how good is it? Really? Would an Epi Std or Studio do just as well?

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Unread 12-09-2008, 05:48 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Epiphone Les Paul Custom - how good is it...

Studio and Custom are the exact same quality. The Studio would be MY suggestion for a travel/beater guitar.
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Re: Epiphone Les Paul Custom - how good is it...

Studio! My friend has a wine red one. Its the mutt's nuts. If you want a beater get a studio goth.
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My Goth is an animal. (And, my wallpaper is stupid - but I'm a renter! )

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My Goth is an animal. (And, my wallpaper is stupid - but I'm a renter! )

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Reeeeeaaally nice, Diceman.

Maybe I should go for a SG? Lighter and cheaper. Or ....?

(Totally confused by now )
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Get a Custom, or you're letting the terrorists win.
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Re: Epiphone Les Paul Custom - how good is it...

Well if you really need a beater guitar then yes the studio...
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Re: Epiphone Les Paul Custom - how good is it...

SGs are totally something else... if you want an LP type then the Studio definitely. Once you get your first SG, you'd prolly not want to bring that for travel as well
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If you want light and easy to travel with, the PRS SE's are some great guitars! I just got one the other day - I love it.

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SGs are totally something else... if you want an LP type then the Studio definitely.
In what way is an SG totally different? I know the tone differs some, but that I can live with.
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Studio! My friend has a wine red one. Its the mutt's nuts. If you want a beater get a studio goth.
HAHAHAHHAAHAHAH!!!!!

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My Goth is an animal. (And, my wallpaper is stupid - but I'm a renter! )
goth looks great with that triple ply pick guard and the zebra. may have to rip you off, there.

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In what way is an SG totally different? I know the tone differs some, but that I can live with.
i think that faded SG for $300 is a good choice. it'll sound a little different, big deal. you still have your amp and your hands playing a 24.75" set mahogany neck with the same pickups.
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If you want light and easy to travel with, the PRS SE's are some great guitars! I just got one the other day - I love it.

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So how does it sound? I've never plugged in a PRS, but I've read their sound being described as underwhelming and generic. How was the fit and finish? Did you need a setup? How would you compare it to a Strat?

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So how does it sound? I've never plugged in a PRS, but I've read their sound being described as underwhelming and generic. How was the fit and finish? Did you need a setup? How would you compare it to a Strat?

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(Lets see... Well, it isn't a *real* PRS (although I think that PRS guitars sound amazing! They *almost* do Les Paul, but they cover such a broad spectrum w/ the coil tap - I wouldn't call them underwhelming or generic in the least!). I immediately pulled the tone cap and put in a Vitamin Q .022 PIO. I got it used - setup was nice, 9's feel about like 10's on my LP's (.25" longer scale w/ PRS) - no nut binding or tuning issues. This guitar sounds REALLY GOOD. Acoustically, it is not at all impressive. Plugged in, it screams. Pinch harmonics fly out like nobody's business. The stock pickups are quite nice - I have no intentions of changing them. I'm probably NOT going to drop a few hundred in this thing for a bridge/nut/tuner upgrade, nor pickups, because I think it sounds and plays excellent as it is. 3 piece back, 4 piece maple cap with a nice veneer over top, looks like a 1 piece neck - overall result is great. Wiring is much nicer looking than my Epis. Very lightweight guitar as well. For the $365w/case/shipped that I paid, I can't imagine a better deal! My next guitar will be a USA PRS without a doubt - I got past my "only Nitro is good enough on a high end guitar" mentality when I got my Elitists - I slightly prefer LP's, but I love those PRS McCarty/Standard/Customs)
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(Lets see... Well, it isn't a *real* PRS (although I think that PRS guitars sound amazing! They *almost* do Les Paul, but they cover such a broad spectrum w/ the coil tap - I wouldn't call them underwhelming or generic in the least!). I immediately pulled the tone cap and put in a Vitamin Q .022 PIO. I got it used - setup was nice, 9's feel about like 10's on my LP's (.25" longer scale w/ PRS) - no nut binding or tuning issues. This guitar sounds REALLY GOOD. Acoustically, it is not at all impressive. Plugged in, it screams. Pinch harmonics fly out like nobody's business. The stock pickups are quite nice - I have no intentions of changing them. I'm probably NOT going to drop a few hundred in this thing for a bridge/nut/tuner upgrade, nor pickups, because I think it sounds and plays excellent as it is. 3 piece back, 4 piece maple cap with a nice veneer over top, looks like a 1 piece neck - overall result is great. Wiring is much nicer looking than my Epis. Very lightweight guitar as well. For the $365w/case/shipped that I paid, I can't imagine a better deal! My next guitar will be a USA PRS without a doubt - I got past my "only Nitro is good enough on a high end guitar" mentality when I got my Elitists - I slightly prefer LP's, but I love those PRS McCarty/Standard/Customs)
Yeah, I saw that it was a Korean PRS. Still interested, though. Thanks for the info!
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Yeah, I saw that it was a Korean PRS. Still interested, though. Thanks for the info!
Well worth a look. I don't think they're "as much" a PRS as an Epiphone is a Les Paul - it feels quite different than the PRS guitars I've played - still a nice guitar for the $$.
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Re: Epiphone Les Paul Custom - how good is it...

I've been knocked out by my LP ever since I got it.
Love It even better with the upgraded pups.
That $3300 Gibson didn't cost me that, oh wait,
I forgot ..
it does say Epiphone.
My hands can't tell a difference though.
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Re: Epiphone Les Paul Custom - how good is it...

for me, i like the inlays of the standards/customs.. not to mention binding looks killer..
i would spend a little more, and not just get a studio-- even for a beater, ya gotta have some style
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So how does it sound? I've never plugged in a PRS, but I've read their sound being described as underwhelming and generic. How was the fit and finish? Did you need a setup? How would you compare it to a Strat?

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I think from a pure quality and consistency stand-point, the Santana SE's are MUCH better than the Epiphones. The problem with the Epiphone's is that they are SO hit or miss. The majority of them are crap...and it takes a good number of them to find one that stands out. The Santana SE's are more uniformly good guitars, with a better overall build quality.
That said.....if you DO find a good Epiphone, I think they are better than the SE's. I personally feel that if the China plants focuses more on good wood selection and eye on high quality in the details, they could absolutely own the sub $700 market.
The difference in quality between a $650 MIC Epiphone Les Paul, and an $1100 Epiphone Elitist is STAGGERING.
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Studio and Custom are the exact same quality. The Studio would be MY suggestion for a travel/beater guitar.
Hey Dice one of my wifes friends just bought a Epi LP Studio for her kid at GC. She said she had the chance to buy what she said was a different epi for just a little more, about $100-or $200 more dollars. From what I got out of her description I think it was the Epiphone Limited Edition Custom in Silverburst. I didnt say anthing to her about it, didt give my opinion. Going by your quote is the only difference between the two again cosmetic??? Now that being said should she STILL have gotten the Custom over the Studio? Her kid liked them both but she really liked the (Im calling it the custom cause thats what I think it is) the custom and for some reason went with the Studio at the last minute. I wonder why the guys who worked with her at GC didn't say "hey I really think you should get this or this for this reason" ya know??? I think the Silverburst was on sale you know priced to move.I bet the kid working there relized what a deal it was and got it for himself.
On a different note I think it sucks that people leave a place like GC confused and almost regretful about a purchase. It's funny how people preach customer service and how thats the most important thing. I feel that in todays word, right now its never been worst.

Sorry to bable guys. So what do you think DICE, (about the original question before I got sidetract )
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Like this one? (sorry for the crappy pic)






Got it on closeout at a local music store. They were going out of business about 2 years ago and I got it for $300.
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Like this one? (sorry for the crappy pic)


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Got it on closeout at a local music store. They were going out of business about 2 years ago and I got it for $300.
That is a pretty sick deal especially for a custom. Was it brand new at the time?
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That is a pretty sick deal especially for a custom. Was it brand new at the time?
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I would go for a Studio or at most a Standard. You surely won't feel happy on seeing scratches in your new Custom model...
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Yeah, I saw that it was a Korean PRS. Still interested, though. Thanks for the info!
A friend of mine just picked up a PRS SE245. It is a killer guitar and has great tone. It also has a thick mahogany body unlike the customs and SE singlecuts. Might want to check one of those out to if your looking for something decent.
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Studio! My friend has a wine red one. Its the mutt's nuts. If you want a beater get a studio goth.
The Mutt's Nuts... That is just simply totally Awesome.

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Regarding SG tone differences, I think it's very exaggerated. I'd venture that anyone doing a blind listening test between a les Paul and an SG with the same pickups wouldn't tell the difference. As much as we like to believe it does, wood makes little difference to the tone of an electric guitar, especially with an SG and a les Paul where the main wood used in construction is the same (mahogany).
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