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Unread 11-26-2012, 04:56 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm considering doing a pickup change in my Korean Epi LP from stock to some other pickup (recommendations appreciated). I can redo a Strat blindfolded, but have never messed with a LP guitar. My question has to do with 2 or 4 conductor wiring. Which do I need? I am not interested in coil splitting, just the standard LP wiring and tones. Which pickups do I need to get? Also, I'm guessing that if a person had a set of pups with 4 conductor wiring and didn't want to split the coils, he could just tape off two wires in each set?

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Unread 11-26-2012, 08:55 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Epiphone Les Paul Pickup & Wiring

You only need four conductor leads for coil split, out of phase, series/parallel switching, etc. Some pickups only come with 4 conductor so yes, just tape off the wires not being used. What kind of music do you enjoy playing? That would determine what kind of P/U's would be good for you.
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Re: Epiphone Les Paul Pickup & Wiring

I have a Chinese LP and thought it sounded pretty good. I took a chance and bought some Fuelies and cannot believe how much better they sound. I also did pots and caps.
Seriously, I actually play better because the guitar sounds so much better. I am going to order another set or two for a couple of my other guitars. You should check them out. Fuelie Guitar Pickups
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Unread 11-26-2012, 01:21 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Epiphone Les Paul Pickup & Wiring

You might consider just replacing the electronics first, if not for the tone implications then for the mechanical ruggedness it may offer. I found that replacing the electronics first lets you reevaluate what you like and dont like about the stock pickups.

For electronics (pots, caps,etc...) the values, brands, types have been discussed excessively and intensively on many forums but i'm sure you couldnt go wrong with the usual suspects.
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Re: Epiphone Les Paul Pickup & Wiring

If you are going to change the pickups I would go ahead and change the pots and cap while you're doing it. As for the 2 or 4 conductor I would get the 4 because you never know when you might decide you would like to try to coil split.

I am sure you'll find it to be very easy.
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Re: Epiphone Les Paul Pickup & Wiring

I have been thinking about these, but it makes sense to do all the electrics at the same time. Change out the components for higher quality ones.

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Re: Epiphone Les Paul Pickup & Wiring

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I have been thinking about these, but it makes sense to do all the electrics at the same time. Change out the components for higher quality ones.

Hot Rodded Humbuckerô ,SH-4 and SH-2 Set - Seymour Duncan Sets


that's a tried and true set.

I like that combination.
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Re: Epiphone Les Paul Pickup & Wiring

The price is right on those, also. I don't think there's a name brand set of pups that can match the Hot Rodded set for bang for your buck.
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Re: Epiphone Les Paul Pickup & Wiring

thanks for the input so far. I just sent Jonsey a PM about this and hopes to hear back from him soon on his recommendations. As to the tones I'm looking for: I like 'warm clean' tones all the way to just your standard 'classic rock' tones (ie, ZZ Top). As for pups, I was thinking of Fralin Pure PAF's or similar. As to electronics, I have no clue. I can rewire a Strat blindfolded, but have never done a LP!
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Re: Epiphone Les Paul Pickup & Wiring

fear not; it;s even easier to wire an LP than a Strat! You'll find plenty of diagrams in the tone-freaks section, and according to your stated preferences, I'd recommend the 50's wiring style, with CTS pots and good caps. (you'll have to slightly enlarge your control-holes)

Epi pickups are actually pretty good, just a bit hot. You might be pleased by just rolling off the volume a tad for more vintage tones. Lowering the pups can also give a bit of headroom.

I agree with the guys who say to do a harness first, then reevaluate the pickups...
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Re: Epiphone Les Paul Pickup & Wiring

I put Tonerider AC11 (PAF) in my Korean Epi. Also changed to 50`s wiring. Sounds good to me. 50`s wiring is the cheapest mod you can do, its free!!!!
Just need to swap over a couple of wires and you`re done.
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Re: Epiphone Les Paul Pickup & Wiring

-I had the matched set of DiMarzio Virtual PAFs in mine for quite a few years until I wanted a more single coil tone from the neck. Then I put a Mean 90 in it. But the Virtual PAFs are a great set if you want classic Les Paul tones. To me, the JB and even the stock Epi p'ups are just too hot for what I was wanting. Check eBay for a nice used set of the DiMarzios. If classic rock, blues, early metal, or even some jazz are your thing, the Virtual PAFs will cover those nicely.

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