Standard and Standard Plus Top (difference?)

InTheEvening · 10-22-2007, 05:33 PM

You guys seem to know a lot about Epiphone guitars...so
I've been wondering for the longest time now, but what's the difference between the Standard and the Standard Plus Top?

On the site they seem to be listed differently, but the specs appear to be the same.

Any ideas? Higher quality top? Just a name?

dcooper830 · 10-22-2007, 05:52 PM

I think the Standards are plain tops and the Standard Plus are flame tops.

I'm not 100% sure on that though.

im_b0r3d_ · 10-22-2007, 06:17 PM

Weird, I searched musicians friend and it only has Epiphone Les Paul Standards.. which have flame tops(although I think remember reading that they are stickers), and Epiphone Les Paul Standard Plain tops..which obviously have plain tops. Can you post a link? They probably sound the same though, one just with a cooler top.

Maybe I got something confused, I'll check GC.com too.

InTheEvening · 10-22-2007, 07:04 PM

This one is a standard weird thing is i'm pretty sure i've seen standards with flame tops also.
Epiphone Musical Instruments

Then the standard plus...
Epiphone Musical Instruments

Again the standard on MS.
Buy Epiphone Les Paul Standard Electric Guitar online at Musician's Friend

And the Standard Plus on Zzounds...
Epiphone Les Paul Standard Plus from zZounds.com!

It said something about veneer on the musiciansfriend specs, but I think the Plus top is also that, or maybe the standard has a carved top, while the Plus top has real maple....? They seem to be similar maybe even the same guitar, but they are being sold under different names. I always see standard plus Les Pauls in stores now though.

Studio fire · 03-24-2009, 01:22 PM

I have an Epi standard plus and i dont know?

pawpek · 03-24-2009, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcooper830

I think the Standards are plain tops and the Standard Plus are flame tops.

I'm not 100% sure on that though.

Think you're right on that

-=[Shifty]=- · 03-24-2009, 01:45 PM

Lemme help you out guys.
The Epiphone Les Paul Standard is only available in ebony.
The Epiphone Les Paul Standard Plain Top has,obviously, a plain top. They're available in Honey Burst, Vintage Sunburst and Heritage Cherry Sunburst.
The Epiphone Les Paul Standard Plus has a flame top. Same colors as the plain top, plus Translucent Blue and Trans Amber.
The specs are the same on all of them. The only difference is the top.

The flame top is not a sticker, it's a maple veneer. Some guys around here can also tell you how thick the veneer is but I don't know.

Take a look here. It's all there.

The_Sentry · 03-24-2009, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -=[Shifty]=-

The flame top is not a sticker, it's a maple veneer. Some guys around here can also tell you how thick the veneer is but I don't know.

Take a look here. It's all there.

The guys on the Epi boards (if I remember it correctly) put it down at somewhere between 1/32nd to 1/64th of an inch thick.

Mr Insane · 03-24-2009, 03:05 PM

It doesn't really matter, both want to be Gibsons.

Okay, I'll get out of here now.

The_Sentry · 03-24-2009, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Insane

It doesn't really matter, both want to be Gibsons.

Okay, I'll get out of here now.

YouTube - Lighten Up Francis

Lax Goalie34 · 03-24-2009, 03:54 PM

plus tops are sexier!

/thread

The_Sentry · 03-24-2009, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lax Goalie34

plus tops are sexier!

/thread

I own a plus top....I actually like the "natural faux look" of the plaintops...especially in the cherry and VS....

(Now if you were talkin' honeyburst? Well, that's a different story...

)

InfiniteeZ · 03-26-2009, 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -=[Shifty]=-

Lemme help you out guys.
The Epiphone Les Paul Standard is only available in ebony.
The Epiphone Les Paul Standard Plain Top has,obviously, a plain top. They're available in Honey Burst, Vintage Sunburst and Heritage Cherry Sunburst.
The Epiphone Les Paul Standard Plus has a flame top. Same colors as the plain top, plus Translucent Blue and Trans Amber.
The specs are the same on all of them. The only difference is the top.

The flame top is not a sticker, it's a maple veneer. Some guys around here can also tell you how thick the veneer is but I don't know.

Take a look here. It's all there.

Awesome post mate!

Mark H · 03-26-2009, 09:17 AM

I may add that my boys blue plus top has Grovers while a standard I have has Klusen type Epi (junk) tuners. His is 1 mo. old and came set up perfect and the neck is just perfect also. The down side is it listed out around $650.

djwilbanks · 03-26-2009, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark H

I may add that my boys blue plus top has Grovers while a standard I have has Klusen type Epi (junk) tuners. His is 1 mo. old and came set up perfect and the neck is just perfect also. The down side is it listed out around $650.

All newer Standards come with Grovers, the Klusen Epi Tuners were pretty much just on the Korean models to my knowledge.

-=[Shifty]=- · 03-26-2009, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InfiniteeZ

Awesome post mate!

Thanks, man. Just tried to clear the confusion.

Quote:

Originally Posted by djwilbanks

All newer Standards come with Grovers, the Klusen Epi Tuners were pretty much just on the Korean models to my knowledge.

Think you're right on this. When you take a look at the Epi site all the Standards have Grovers. My '03 MIK Epi LP Classic (yeah, I eventually received it, if you remember the story) also came with Grovers. But I think that was a Classic model privilege back then, not 100% sure, though.

Mark H · 03-26-2009, 10:17 AM

Ahh, your right my standard is a '99 MIK.

standard man · 04-03-2009, 11:45 PM

I also have the plus top in blue. There is a big difference in tuners! I love my grovers. The tops on the plus blues are beautiful. My opinion, they are the nicest tops on an epi les paul.

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InTheEvening Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: On the moon Posts: 196 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Standard and Standard Plus Top (difference?) You guys seem to know a lot about Epiphone guitars...so I've been wondering for the longest time now, but what's the difference between the Standard and the Standard Plus Top? On the site they seem to be listed differently, but the specs appear to be the same. Any ideas? Higher quality top? Just a name?

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dcooper830 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 724 Thanks: 14 Thanked 17 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Standard and Standard Plus Top (difference?) I think the Standards are plain tops and the Standard Plus are flame tops. I'm not 100% sure on that though. __________________ Videos of me playing guitar

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im_b0r3d_ V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 2,742 Thanks: 6 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Standard and Standard Plus Top (difference?) Weird, I searched musicians friend and it only has Epiphone Les Paul Standards.. which have flame tops(although I think remember reading that they are stickers), and Epiphone Les Paul Standard Plain tops..which obviously have plain tops. Can you post a link? They probably sound the same though, one just with a cooler top. Maybe I got something confused, I'll check GC.com too.

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InTheEvening Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: On the moon Posts: 196 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Standard and Standard Plus Top (difference?) This one is a standard weird thing is i'm pretty sure i've seen standards with flame tops also. Epiphone Musical Instruments Then the standard plus... Epiphone Musical Instruments Again the standard on MS. Buy Epiphone Les Paul Standard Electric Guitar online at Musician's Friend And the Standard Plus on Zzounds... Epiphone Les Paul Standard Plus from zZounds.com! It said something about veneer on the musiciansfriend specs, but I think the Plus top is also that, or maybe the standard has a carved top, while the Plus top has real maple....? They seem to be similar maybe even the same guitar, but they are being sold under different names. I always see standard plus Les Pauls in stores now though.

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Mark H Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Woodstock, GA UNINTED STATES of AMERICA Posts: 813 Thanks: 10 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Standard and Standard Plus Top (difference?) I may add that my boys blue plus top has Grovers while a standard I have has Klusen type Epi (junk) tuners. His is 1 mo. old and came set up perfect and the neck is just perfect also. The down side is it listed out around $650. __________________ Mark Hatheway..pawn shop king. " Even if you say just a one more...I won't leave you alone"

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Mark H Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Woodstock, GA UNINTED STATES of AMERICA Posts: 813 Thanks: 10 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Standard and Standard Plus Top (difference?) Ahh, your right my standard is a '99 MIK. __________________ Mark Hatheway..pawn shop king. " Even if you say just a one more...I won't leave you alone"

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standard man Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: ptown nebraska (proud of it!) Posts: 1,363 Thanks: 97 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Standard and Standard Plus Top (difference?) I also have the plus top in blue. There is a big difference in tuners! I love my grovers. The tops on the plus blues are beautiful. My opinion, they are the nicest tops on an epi les paul. __________________ A proud member of My guitars- Agile Dauntless Silverburst(EMGs wired BH style) Epiphone LP STD Plus Blue(Gibby 490s) Epiphone G400 Ebony(Stock) Saga ST-10(Stock) Amp- Vox Valvetronics VT30 Effects- Dunlop Original Crybaby Checks me out on youtube!

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