Gfs pups

littlejon · 04-28-2012, 08:18 PM

I put a set of gfs boutique fat pats in my les paul MIK and it kind of sounds like a duck now like old 70's funk bass.
I backed them off to see if it would fade but it didn't I am using .047 caps modern wiring.
Any ideas?
Or are they just what they are? Ducks
Thanks
John

GNR4EVR · 04-28-2012, 09:30 PM

I have a set in my wifes Laguna and they sound great to me. Might be in your wiring or cap choice.

Phildog · 04-29-2012, 12:01 AM

I'd suggest changing the caps to .022 PIO (paper-in-oil). With that change, you'll be getting a better tonal range from your pickups. Heck, you can even try a .015 in the neck position. I'd also change the pots to CTS for better signal flow and reliable service. Also, consider changing the wiring scheme to 50's style for much more usable tone control throughout the entire knob travel. Those pups should sound really good! IMO

Ole'Lefty · 04-29-2012, 07:47 AM

Historically, they are bargains- I've used the crunchy PAF's and Mean 90's.

SJM · 04-29-2012, 08:14 AM

I'm thinking it's something to do with the wiring schematic and caps also. I have a set of GFS professional series Alnico II's in one of my Gits and they sound exceptionally good. Way better than I expected given the price.

Metalrulez · 04-29-2012, 09:47 AM

Maybe the coils are wired out of phase?

Danno1985 · 04-29-2012, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by littlejon

I put a set of gfs boutique fat pats in my les paul MIK and it kind of sounds like a duck now like old 70's funk bass.
I backed them off to see if it would fade but it didn't I am using .047 caps modern wiring.
Any ideas?
Or are they just what they are? Ducks
Thanks
John

It "sounds like a duck"??? "Like old 70's funk bass"?? What does that even mean? You're going to have to be more descriptive if you want help figuring out why your pickups don't sound right.

But yeah, I have GFS pickups and they sound pretty great to me.

Pauli · 04-29-2012, 04:36 PM

He quackers.

Preacher403 · 04-29-2012, 05:37 PM

Double check to be sure you didn't connect the wrong 2 leads together from the pickups. My guess is that instead of wiring the two "end" leads for the coils together you wired an "end" to a "start" (or maybe it's the other way around...not THAT familiar with the terms in pickup design) and ended up with the two coils cancelling each other out. Check the sheet that should have come with the pickups to be sure.

littlejon · 04-29-2012, 05:56 PM

Problem was a poor ground to the tone pot.
Now they sound good but still think they are a bit dark.
I am going to swap out the caps for 022 or 015.
Thanks for all the help
And go listen to an old funk album with a nice bass grove it has a quacking type of sound, that was the sound!
I guess it would have been alright if it was 1972 I could have joined the group Parliament!

04-28-2012, 08:18 PM	#1 (permalink)
littlejon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Milton Posts: 101 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 1 Post	Gfs pups I put a set of gfs boutique fat pats in my les paul MIK and it kind of sounds like a duck now like old 70's funk bass. I backed them off to see if it would fade but it didn't I am using .047 caps modern wiring. Any ideas? Or are they just what they are? Ducks Thanks John

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Phildog Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Philadelphia, Pa Posts: 3,036 Thanks: 23 Thanked 38 Times in 27 Posts	Re: Gfs pups I'd suggest changing the caps to .022 PIO (paper-in-oil). With that change, you'll be getting a better tonal range from your pickups. Heck, you can even try a .015 in the neck position. I'd also change the pots to CTS for better signal flow and reliable service. Also, consider changing the wiring scheme to 50's style for much more usable tone control throughout the entire knob travel. Those pups should sound really good! IMO SJM likes this. __________________ ************************** 2006 Epiphone Les Paul Standard 2005 Epiphone Les Paul Classic 2008 Epiphone G400 1966 Reissue Eric Johnson Sunburst Strat Jimi Hendrix Monterey Pop Strat Fender Telecaster 50's Reissue Univox Hi Flier Phase II Premier 4 String Bass SKB Stage 5 LOADED!!! Fender Hot Rod Deluxe **************************

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Metalrulez Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: 53 Miles West of Venus Posts: 194 Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Gfs pups Maybe the coils are wired out of phase?

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Pauli Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Belfast, Ireland Posts: 11 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Gfs pups He quackers. __________________ 1994 Epiphone Les Paul Standard Cherryburst with GFS Vintage '59 Classic Nickel V humbuckers Fender Strat in Black Line 6 Spider II 120w amp Line 6 DL4 Line 6 AM4 Digitech GNX3 Zoom G2

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Preacher403 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Kansas City, KS Posts: 167 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Gfs pups Double check to be sure you didn't connect the wrong 2 leads together from the pickups. My guess is that instead of wiring the two "end" leads for the coils together you wired an "end" to a "start" (or maybe it's the other way around...not THAT familiar with the terms in pickup design) and ended up with the two coils cancelling each other out. Check the sheet that should have come with the pickups to be sure. __________________ 2008 Epiphone Les Paul Custom (Silverburst) 2009 Gibson Les Paul Studio (Raw Power - maple) 2010 Epiphone Les Paul Custom (Alpine White) 2010 Epiphone Les Paul Standard (Ebony) 2011 Epiphone Les Paul Studio (Silverburst) 2012 Epiphone Les Paul Traditional Pro (Gold Top) 2013 Epiphone Les Paul Tribute Plus (Faded Cherry Burst) 2010 Ibanez Artcore AF75TDG Ariana STG-3 Ibanez Artcore AM73T Alvarez Dana Scoop

04-29-2012, 05:56 PM	#10 (permalink)
littlejon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Milton Posts: 101 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 1 Post	Re: Gfs pups Problem was a poor ground to the tone pot. Now they sound good but still think they are a bit dark. I am going to swap out the caps for 022 or 015. Thanks for all the help And go listen to an old funk album with a nice bass grove it has a quacking type of sound, that was the sound! I guess it would have been alright if it was 1972 I could have joined the group Parliament!

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