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Unread 09-22-2008, 10:52 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Potentiometers

I'm looking to replace the pots on one of my Les Pauls (Not the Epi) and was looking through the website where I buy from (Thomann, Germany) and came across pots that have short and long shafts.

Which are the Les Paul ones?

Are the volume and tone ones the same?

250, 500 K ohm or 1 mega ohms?


Whats a good brand without breaking the bank?


What about caps?



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Re: Potentiometers

If I like what it does sound wise to my Granada Les Paul I'll do the same to my Epi Standard
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Re: Potentiometers

For Gibson LPs you need the long shaft ones. 500k are the most popluar... Basically the higher the ohms, the more of the high end you're going to get out of your guitar. 250k will sound a bit muddy compared to 500k, and 1000k is said to completely open up the pickups for some insane highs.. which some might find to be annoying. I'm not sure which brands are considered "the best".

As for caps, most players swear by the "oil and paper" ones. Vitamin Q is probably the most popular brand.

Oh, and keep in mind that if you do your Epi, you'll need the regular short shaft pots. Hmm.. Granada? Might need short shaft for those too. Your best bet is to try and look in there or remove them to find out for sure... compare with pics on the net.
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Re: Potentiometers

Also if you do the Epi, you will need new knobs. Also get Vit Q's for caps. And while you are at it, might as well re-wire the whole guitar.
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Hi Eh. Ya need short for your Epi and IMO these are good enough Alpha brand, they direct fit and your knobs will fit also, Untitled Page sell them . You want 500k if you get CTS get short shaft , if you do get CTS they will require new Gibson ( fine spline) knobs and you need to enlarge the pot holes on the guitar.
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Re: Potentiometers

The Granada I know nothing about, could take the same as Epi ? most Asian makes do. What is a Granada anyway.
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The Granada I know nothing about, could take the same as Epi ? most Asian makes do. What is a Granada anyway.

They are rebadged Aria guitars that were sold through alot of conservitory music schools in Canada, mostly Ontario and Alberta
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They are rebadged Aria guitars that were sold through alot of conservitory music schools in Canada, mostly Ontario and Alberta
Its all coming back to me now , ya I have seen a few long ago IMO get Alpha 500K and orange drop caps from guitarfetish cheap upgrade stuff that works well. .022 caps.

Wait whats the local guy got ,you could save on shipping and stuff.
As I say most Asian guitars take the shorter shaft because the top is thinner than a Gibsons not sure about the Granada , you can put the long in and a few washers if needed. Just don't know?
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Re: Potentiometers

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I'm looking to replace the pots on one of my Les Pauls (Not the Epi) and was looking through the website where I buy from (Thomann, Germany) and came across pots that have short and long shafts.

--Which are the Les Paul ones?
--Are the volume and tone ones the same?
--250, 500 K ohm or 1 mega ohms?
--Whats a good brand without breaking the bank?
--What about caps?

Thanks in advance
What year and type of Les Paul do you have? Some require long, some short shafts.

Personally, I buy my stuff at RS Guitarworks...they even have a guide to tell you what type of shafts you need.

I use their RS Superpots (500K+) for volume, CTS pots (500K) for tone. They have several options for caps, all good.

You can also call during their business hours (EST) and ask for Billy--he's the man. He's also a member here...Hillbilly...he's the dude that puts your kit together.

I have their kits in four of my guitars, soon to be five (3 Les Pauls, Squire Telecaster, and my EDS-1275 Double Neck).

Hope that helps--cheers!

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What year and type of Les Paul do you have? Some require long, some short shafts.

Personally, I buy my stuff at RS Guitarworks...they even have a guide to tell you what type of shafts you need.

I use their RS Superpots (500K+) for volume, CTS pots (500K) for tone. They have several options for caps, all good.

You can also call during their business hours (EST) and ask for Billy--he's the man. He's also a member here...Hillbilly...he's the dude that puts your kit together.

I have their kits in four of my guitars, soon to be five (3 Les Pauls, Squire Telecaster, and my EDS-1275 Double Neck).

Hope that helps--cheers!

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+1. You can't go wrong with RS.
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+1. You can't go wrong with RS.
Come on guys he wants CHEAP for a CHEAP guitar.
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+1. You can't go wrong with RS.
I bought the RS vintage short shaft kit with the 4 pots, 2 caps, 1 jack and the toggle switch.

I haven't installed them yet but I believe that the pot holes on the epiphone standard must be expanded

but the problem is,.... I don't know If the toggle switch will fit because I tried putting it in and the thread won't come out from the other side; meaning I don't think i can screw the cap back on. And the top seems kinda thin already.

Has anyone else had this problem?
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I bought the RS vintage short shaft kit with the 4 pots, 2 caps, 1 jack and the toggle switch.

I haven't installed them yet but I believe that the pot holes on the epiphone standard must be expanded

but the problem is,.... I don't know If the toggle switch will fit because I tried putting it in and the thread won't come out from the other side; meaning I don't think i can screw the cap back on. And the top seems kinda thin already.

Has anyone else had this problem?
Yup. My MIJ had to have the pot-holes reamed out for the short-shafted CTSs to fit. The cavity side of the toggle area also needed some wood removed. Used a Dremel with a small sanding pad about the size of a nickel. Patience & a steady hand will reward you.
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Re: Potentiometers

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I bought the RS vintage short shaft kit with the 4 pots, 2 caps, 1 jack and the toggle switch.

I haven't installed them yet but I believe that the pot holes on the epiphone standard must be expanded

but the problem is,.... I don't know If the toggle switch will fit because I tried putting it in and the thread won't come out from the other side; meaning I don't think i can screw the cap back on. And the top seems kinda thin already.

Has anyone else had this problem?
Yes everyone has And i have posted about that stuff before , alot of guys don' t care that the stuff is not a direct fit. Gota ream the pot holes . I forget what is the best way to fit the switch in, remove wood from inside the switch cavity ? Try a search. Maybe the RS guy can tell ya!
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Thanks for the advice.
I'll try it when I install them
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Re: Potentiometers

The pot holes are not that big of a deal I used a small round file to enlarge mine, one guitar any way.
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Yes everyone has And i have posted about that stuff before , alot of guys don' t care that the stuff is not a direct fit. Gota ream the pot holes . I forget what is the best way to fit the switch in, remove wood from inside the switch cavity ? Try a search. Maybe the RS guy can tell ya!
My new Switchcraft switch fit through the stock hole and threaded with no problems and no mods. However, the backside of the hole within the switch cavity is not completely level, so the switch wouldn't sit flush and is slightly cockeyed sitting on the front of the guitar. The stock switch wouldn't sit flush either, so this isn't due to the switch mod. Anyway, I can tell the inside of the switch cavity is kinda chewed-up and not perfectly level, which is not unexpected on a $400 guitar.

So to fix it I could either level out the backside of the hole by removing (or adding) wood, or just use some folded up cardboard wedged between the switch and the side of the cavity to prop the switch up straight so it sits flush on the front of the guitar. For now the cardboard trick works pretty well and I'll go with it until (and if) it stops working.
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The pot holes are not that big of a deal I used a small round file to enlarge mine, one guitar any way.
Same here...I barely had to remove any wood to get my CTS & RS pots to fit. Go easy on it.
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