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Unread 09-08-2008, 09:27 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Cool Guys...are epiphone stock pickups not good enough ??? What do you say???

TO ALL FRIENDS...
THIS IS MY QUESTION...

- ARE STOCK EPIPHONE PICKUPS NOT GOOD ENOUGH ?????

WHAT DO YOU SAY & ADVISE ????

hmmmm....I JUST WANNA MAKE SURVEY...THATS ALL...

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Unread 09-08-2008, 09:46 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Guys...are epiphone stock pickups not good enough ??? What do you say???

Yes, they're good, but I changed mine still.
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Re: Guys...are epiphone stock pickups not good enough ??? What do you say???

yes i like them, but i still swapped them, its the modder in me i guess :S
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Re: Guys...are epiphone stock pickups not good enough ??? What do you say???

They work for me. Especially with the Ultra-II, so far I've been able to dial in just about any tone I'm searching for. Grass is always greener, though....
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Re: Guys...are epiphone stock pickups not good enough ??? What do you say???

WELL..I DO LIKE AN EPI STANDARD GOLD COVER PICKUPS..ITS SOUND CLASSIC...

hmmmm...
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Re: Guys...are epiphone stock pickups not good enough ??? What do you say???

Epi P90s are really quite good, IMHO.

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Re: Guys...are epiphone stock pickups not good enough ??? What do you say???

Yeah, they're good enough for me ..... for now .... I play for my own enjoyment (and at my liberal church ), so, they do the job - which isn't to say I might not swap 'em down the road. They're perfectly fine considering the price point of the guitar, I think.
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Re: Guys...are epiphone stock pickups not good enough ??? What do you say???

Depends on the guitar IMO some work just fine some do not. If they work for a person great. I have one (HB)with stock pups that sound good to me. Also depends on the players wants. better made pups usually make a difference, its all a matter of will the player like the difference. Most do some don't.
I changed out the stock open coil in my classic GT for seymour duncan APH1 & custom custom, sold those did not like them, and got Elitist pups for it ,covered, they work great in that guitar.
For some reason though the stock pups I have, sound good and not as hot as the Seymour Duncans or the Elitist. Going to try some better made pup n the HB soon lower K than the Elitist with unbalanced coils.


Most people will tell ya the Epi classic alnico are junk shitty pups. But IMO even if true it is of little matter if they work well for a person. They are indeed not made as well as others but...........
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Re: Guys...are epiphone stock pickups not good enough ??? What do you say???

I have the '58 Explorer epi and it currently has the stock pups in it. I used to think they were alright and had no plans on swapping them out, but when I put that guitar away for a while and played my Les copy with the GFS pups, when I went back to the explorer, I realized the pickups were pretty muddy and lacked definition. It probably has something to do with all the wax under the covers. The swap isn't 100% necessary, but it would definitely improve sound clarity.
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Re: Guys...are epiphone stock pickups not good enough ??? What do you say???

This brings up the debate of all guitars of any given line being different and some are dead sounding while others are the 1 in 50 'peaches' that sound great - most are middling.

Im guessing the great sounding ones dont need a change in pups! and the crappy ones dont sound much better if you do change 'em.....
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WELL..I DO LIKE AN EPI STANDARD GOLD COVER PICKUPS..ITS SOUND CLASSIC...

hmmmm...
are you sure yours are stock? the gold plting does not look worn You got it used maybe the owner put different ones in it.
Last year a guy posted pictures of his pickups (the Bottom) used guitar and it had Gibson pickups in it. He was wondering if he should change them.
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This brings up the debate of all guitars of any given line being different and some are dead sounding while others are the 1 in 50 'peaches' that sound great - most are middling.

Im guessing the great sounding ones dont need a change in pups! and the crappy ones dont sound much better if you do change 'em.....
how do you like the pups in that prophecy?
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how do you like the pups in that prophecy?
The Prophecy i have is a good'un mate, very resonant unplugged......

The pups are SUPERB, they eat any amount of distortion and gain, sound solid, even, powerful, great for rock and metal, i even widdle blues on it! cant praise those pups enough, the Dirty Finger pups are meant to be the Gibby version EMG HZ and do a great job, they do not sound sterile at all.

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Re: Guys...are epiphone stock pickups not good enough ??? What do you say???

I swap mine, I have been using the same Dimarzio combination for 25-30 years, but also use the Stew-Mac Golden Age Hots in one guitar as well.

nah, the dirty fingers pups were originally out way back in time, they were just brought back into production is all, they are still great pups.
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Re: Guys...are epiphone stock pickups not good enough ??? What do you say???

So, I can only find the dirty fingers pups online in the bridge position. does that mean the prophecy has 2 bridge pickups in it?
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Re: Guys...are epiphone stock pickups not good enough ??? What do you say???

I gave my son my Epi Les Paul Plus top. I had changed all the electronics, new CTS matched 503K pots, orange drop caps and brand new Gibson burstbucker 1 & 2s and it was night and day difference. My son is a Strat guy and never really fancied my Les Paul until he played it after I upgraded it with all the electronics.

I have a Digitech RP500 pedal system and it's always in the loop. My son wanted to hear just the Les Paul straight into the ValveKing tube combo and he was blown away saying. "that's the tone I've been hearing in my head that I can't get even from his Hiway 1 Strat.

After I bought a Custom Shop R8 he begged me to let him borrow it, I told him I was going to sell it for $500 as I knew it wouldn't get played much after buying that R8 and I figured it would offset some of the price paid for that R8.

He was trying to sell some of his gear to buy that Epi from me for five bills. However, I officially gave it to him on his 30th bday about a month after he took it home. He gigged it the next day after taking it home too!
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So, I can only find the dirty fingers pups online in the bridge position. does that mean the prophecy has 2 bridge pickups in it?
yeah it is made in just one format, so the Prophecy has two identical pups. gotta say it does fine in the neck position, nice even response and still flutey beyond the 12th fret
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I swap mine, I have been using the same Dimarzio combination for 25-30 years, but also use the Stew-Mac Golden Age Hots in one guitar as well.

nah, the dirty fingers pups were originally out way back in time, they were just brought back into production is all, they are still great pups.
ah i stand corrected, ta dude!

modern equivalent is EMG HZ et al just to put it into a current context...
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Re: Guys...are epiphone stock pickups not good enough ??? What do you say???

yeaah they are in that range for sure, some people thought it was a "new" design.

I just wish the dirty fingers were an option on the black prophecy.
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yeaah they are in that range for sure, some people thought it was a "new" design.

I just wish the dirty fingers were an option on the black prophecy.
do you have the black one mate? yeah its strange they dont offer them on them.......i may gone for the black one otherwise
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Re: Guys...are epiphone stock pickups not good enough ??? What do you say???

I didn't buy a prophecy for that reason, I like the SG version better than the LPC though.
I just looks meaner as an SG.

My wife will kill me if I bring home anymore new gear this year...........
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Re: Guys...are epiphone stock pickups not good enough ??? What do you say???

i have to say that the epi p-90s in my 56 goldtop are outstanding... with a set of orange drops and stock pots they sound really, really nice! i was thinking about upgrading before i even got the guitar i really don't see the point now.
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Re: Guys...are epiphone stock pickups not good enough ??? What do you say???

ok so since we're talking about "hot" pick ups here. does higher resistance make the pick up hotter? this seems to be the case as i'm researching them here. I can't find the resistance on the ditry fingers one though. and the SD Invader is throwing me off too because its 8 ohms which seems to be on the low end and i thought those were supposed to be really hot.
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Re: Guys...are epiphone stock pickups not good enough ??? What do you say???

They are just fine, but there is always better...
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Very frankly, "good enough" for what?

IMO they are fine stock pickups and consistent, if not better than what you would expect in a guitar in the Epi price range.

But there are many better pickups out there. And changing pickups is one of most effective ways of shaping the tone of your guitar. If you want to upgrade your sound, change out the pickups. If you don't care or don't want the hassle, the stock pickups will do you just fine.
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Re: Guys...are epiphone stock pickups not good enough ??? What do you say???

I changed out pups on my Gibson LP deluxe and my Epi 56 LP reissue.
Left stock in my FENDER R.Cray strat and FENDER Nashville Tele.
Haven't played enough FENDER equip to know any better, I guess!
I think alot of the actual sound quality has to do with amplification, too.
Some guit's sound better on different amps.
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Re: Guys...are epiphone stock pickups not good enough ??? What do you say???

The stock '57's in my LP Plus were fine.
Very Fine.
I had to listen closely at first and wasn't totally convinced that the Dimarzio Super Distortion I had bought was actually any better.
It all became apparent at high volume. The Dimarzio allows more definition and clarity at higher volumes.
Still, the 2007 year Epiphone '57 and '57 + pickups are darn good replicas of what they emulate.
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- ARE STOCK EPIPHONE PICKUPS NOT GOOD ENOUGH ?????
The stock pickups in my Epiphone Flying V are fine. Not changin' 'em.
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Re: Guys...are epiphone stock pickups not good enough ??? What do you say???

I am changing mine in my MIK Epi LPC.

They sound really thin and such. BUT, I am not saying they were always like that. My guitar is 15 years old and probably needs ran through and cleaned out and such haha.
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The stock pickups are decent, but they didn't really wow me. I ended up replacing them with Seymour Duncan JB/Jazz pickups. I like the SD's much better.
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