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Unread 12-11-2011, 06:20 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Mini-humbucker love thread

Since they were created by Epiphone (before the Gibson takeover) I'm posting this here. Who else loves mini-humbuckers? Why do you like them and what guitar are they in? I have them in my Wilshire Tremotone and they rock. Single coil clarity combined with humbucker punch and how they react to dynamic playing...soft when you play gently, hard attack when you spank it.
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Unread 12-11-2011, 09:50 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Mini-humbucker love thread

Like 'em in my Nighthawk

just for the varity - compared to my other HB fitted guitars


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Re: Mini-humbucker love thread

I loved 'em in my 73 DeLuxe.
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Re: Mini-humbucker love thread

If I could get or make a Firebird that's where they would be.

Wish this was mine and not one I got to mess with.

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Re: Mini-humbucker love thread

I love´em in my 2007 €piphone Firebird V:



...and in my 1970 Gibson Les Paul Deluxe:

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I love´em in my 2007 €piphone Firebird V:

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...and in my 1970 Gibson Les Paul Deluxe:

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would love to get my hands on one of those Birds, it's a shame they stopped making these, and I'm NOT going to buy a Firebird with full-size humbuckers. P90s ok, but a Firebird deserves mini-humbuckers!
BTW FB pus are different from pole piece minis, in the FBs there are 2 blade-shaped magnets the coils are wound around, while the pole piece minis are built like PAFs. IMO, both rock!
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SD minis in the 76 LP Deluxe that is my avatar!
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Just in case you didn't seem them original 60's.





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Like 'em in my Gretsch Pro Jet.




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Re: Mini-humbucker love thread

My '09 Epiphone '56 Gold Top loves its new Gibson mini-buckers.

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Re: Mini-humbucker love thread

I'm going to cheat a little bit - here's my EB-3 with a bass mini humbucker.

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Re: Mini-humbucker love thread

Don't have a pic here but one of the best neck pickups I have ever played with is the Mini bucker in the neck of my Deluxe.
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Re: Mini-humbucker love thread

[QUOTE=Lizzy4Life;3298890]Since they were created by Epiphone (before the Gibson takeover) I'm posting this here. Who else loves mini-humbuckers? Why do you like them and what guitar are they in? I have them in my Wilshire Tremotone and they rock. Single coil clarity combined with humbucker punch and how they react to dynamic playing...soft when you play gently, hard attack when you spank it.


Just because I don't like seeing people look so uninformed in public...The PAF Mini Humbucker (Never , never, never, never, never, ever referred to as the "New York Mini Humbucker" until the late 90s ad copy by some dope in Epiphone marketing...perhaps to give historical credibility to some Asian generic pickup made to look like a Mini Humbucker for use in Asian guitars that "looked like" the old models from Epiphone)-was designed in about 1960 (Three years after Epiphone was purchased by CMI) to fit in the rout of what was the "New York Pickup", a single coil pickup Epiphone had been using since about 1949. Along with the sale of the Epiphone brand, CMI also received a considerable stock of wood, partially completed guitars and basses and hardware/electronics. This stock lasted into about 1960 at which point the Epiphone models received a reset and the PAF Minis replaced the New York single coils. A similar, though slightly different Mini Humbucker without exposed pole pieces was used in some 60s Firebird models. The first Gibsons with the PAF Mini Humbuckers happened in 1969 (Domestic Epiphone had ceased in August of 1970 and this was to use up remaining stock from the Epiphone production but the Mini proved popular and was continued in some Gibson models until the early/mid 80s) when The Les Paul Deluxe appeared with two Mini Humbuckers. About 1973/74 (In 1972 Mini Humbuckers came with the embossed "Gibson" on the can) The "PAF/# Sticker was replaced by a back plate stamping of the patent number. I happen to love Mini Humbuckers in my (USA) Riviera but I was lukewarm with the three or four LP Deluxes I've owned over the years...To me a Les Paul is meant to have the full humbucker sound- not that there's any negative connotations with the Mini sound in a Les Paul, I don't hate it..I just personally prefer the full humbucker thing. I love the bite and dig of my Riviera maybe even above/ over my ES-335..but in the Les Paul...not so much....if you like the Asian Epiphone version, you'll love the real deal American version...
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Re: Mini-humbucker love thread

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Since they were created by Epiphone (before the Gibson takeover) I'm posting this here. Who else loves mini-humbuckers? Why do you like them and what guitar are they in? I have them in my Wilshire Tremotone and they rock. Single coil clarity combined with humbucker punch and how they react to dynamic playing...soft when you play gently, hard attack when you spank it.


Just because I don't like seeing people look so uninformed in public...The PAF Mini Humbucker (Never , never, never, never, never, ever referred to as the "New York Mini Humbucker" until the late 90s ad copy by some dope in Epiphone marketing...perhaps to give historical credibility to some Asian generic pickup made to look like a Mini Humbucker for use in Asian guitars that "looked like" the old models from Epiphone)-was designed in about 1960 (Three years after Epiphone was purchased by CMI) to fit in the rout of what was the "New York Pickup", a single coil pickup Epiphone had been using since about 1949. Along with the sale of the Epiphone brand, CMI also received a considerable stock of wood, partially completed guitars and basses and hardware/electronics. This stock lasted into about 1960 at which point the Epiphone models received a reset and the PAF Minis replaced the New York single coils. A similar, though slightly different Mini Humbucker without exposed pole pieces was used in some 60s Firebird models. The first Gibsons with the PAF Mini Humbuckers happened in 1969 (Domestic Epiphone had ceased in August of 1970 and this was to use up remaining stock from the Epiphone production but the Mini proved popular and was continued in some Gibson models until the early/mid 80s) when The Les Paul Deluxe appeared with two Mini Humbuckers. About 1973/74 (In 1972 Mini Humbuckers came with the embossed "Gibson" on the can) The "PAF/# Sticker was replaced by a back plate stamping of the patent number. I happen to love Mini Humbuckers in my (USA) Riviera but I was lukewarm with the three or four LP Deluxes I've owned over the years...To me a Les Paul is meant to have the full humbucker sound- not that there's any negative connotations with the Mini sound in a Les Paul, I don't hate it..I just personally prefer the full humbucker thing. I love the bite and dig of my Riviera maybe even above/ over my ES-335..but in the Les Paul...not so much....if you like the Asian Epiphone version, you'll love the real deal American version...
Thanks for clearing that up I know, Gibsons or maybe Lollars would sound even better, but to me they sound pretty good being stock Epi pickups. In the future, I might upgrade them, but for now I spend most money on my Lester. What you said about Deluxes is exactly what I thought. They just sound too thin in a Les Paul. However, Pete Townshend had a pretty good sound with 'em IMO
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Re: Mini-humbucker love thread

I'm a big fan of the minis. I have them in a LP Deluxe, and like them better than regular PAF's. I also have a Gretsch Corvette with minis which (I believe) are the same. It's all a matter of taste in the end, but thanks for all the historical info; very interesting.

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Re: Mini-humbucker love thread

I love the mini's too, infact I have a set of these which I am debating parting with, made in the late 70's I was going to install them in my 56 goldtop and then I convinced a friend to trade me for my E series MIJ stratocaster that I sold to him 20 years ago that I have been trying to buy back for 10 years,
I have an l550 and l560 brand new in the box and never used. Mine are black though but these mini's rock and are super clear, I have a friend who has them in an old gibby deluxe, they are unbeleivable in tone and almost impossible to find.













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Re: Mini-humbucker love thread

My experience with mini's are limited to my Nighthawk:



...and my Epi Firebird VII:



I love 'em ... sparkle with some girth to them ... snap with substance!

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why mini hums, when you have a perfectly good hole to stick P90's in?
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I Wuv Em!!!!!!
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why mini hums, when you have a perfectly good hole to stick P90's in?
Because for all that P-90s can do good grit, they can't chug like a good mini.
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Re: Mini-humbucker love thread

They sound good on my friend's Gibson Les Paul [70 something?]
I like the cleaner more focused sound.
It is sensing a smaller portion of the string.
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Is the "NYR" mini-humbucker in Epiphone Wilshire the same as "NHR" in Epiphone Nighthawk?
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Is the "NYR" mini-humbucker in Epiphone Wilshire the same as "NHR" in Epiphone Nighthawk?
The New York mini humbucker is in fact a wrong name. The New York pickups were the single coils that predate the minis, before Epiphone was even taken over by Gibson. The minis in the Wilshire are the original Epiphone polepiece minis, they have a coil with pole pieces and a coil with a blade and underneath those two a bar magnet. Then there's the Firebird mini, which is in your Nighthawk. These have two coils with a blade shaped magnet in the coils itself, so no bar magnet underneath. Think of it as a Fender single coil, but with the magnets connected to form one big magnet in the coil (and two coils of course, as it's a humbucker).

Firebird pickup (like in NH)

Epiphone mini (notice the blade in the lower coil is not a magnet, the actual magnet is still in its place in the middle of the baseplate)
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Re: Mini-humbucker love thread

Thanks for exhaustive information.
Does any of you have any experience with Entwistle HV-M mini-humbucker? I'm thinking of using it in Epi Nighthawk instead of the stock one.
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My '09 Epiphone '56 Gold Top loves its new Gibson mini-buckers.

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Out of curiosity...what's the deal with this?
I know Gibson P90s will drop into P90 slots, but I thought the Epi P90s were a tad smaller.
Are those Gibson minis?
Did you need to route?
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