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hi MLP, i'm new here and i'm on the brink of getting a new guitar. I'm seriously torn between the MIC Epiphone Ltd. Ed. LP in silverburst and an ESP/LTD EC-256. My only question is how good are the MIC Epiphones now compared to 2004 Korean made Epi's? i have a 2004 MIK G-400 Goth SG and I've tried out my bandmate's LP Custom although I am having a hard time deciphering the pros and cons of the newer Epis.

Hope people here can answer my question. thanks!
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Unread 05-13-2011, 02:11 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Epiphone China vs. Korea

Hi,

and welcome here.

I'm sure you wouldn't be able to tell a difference - if you couldn't read where and when it was made.........

there are many 'good' ones from each period / country / factory
and some less good ones....

play it, and .......

if it feels good to your hands,
if it sounds good to your ears,
if it looks good to your eyes,
and if it fits your wallet..........buy it!

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Re: Epiphone China vs. Korea

I dont think you can generalise with them. I've heard great things about the Korean guitars but the one Korean G400 custom I own is very sloppy in terms of build quality.

I think the Chinese ones are pretty good, after a full fret level and setup of course. If I were buying another guitar I certainly wouldn't be looking based on what country it was built.
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Re: Epiphone China vs. Korea

During that time period Epiphones being made in Korea were still considered better than anything out of Qingdao until after 2006. In 2007 the Qingdao China Epiphone factory started implementing noticeable upgrades in building and materials to help make their Epiphone guitars some of the best ever made in the world.
But, in 2004 Korea still ruled.
I've seen many shoddy Qingdao pre-2006 Les Pauls and SG's with messy binding and gobs of glue on the neckjoins
but somehow after that time they seemed to really pull it together to make a better instrument.
Pre 2006 Epiphones from Korea would be considered superior, but by 2007 there would be little difference.
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My qingdao 2008 HB les paul standard plus feels and sounds great to me. I had nut, cap and pup change but even before then it was a very nice instrument, at least to me.
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Re: Epiphone China vs. Korea

Chinese Lesters often get a bashing but there is absolutely nothing wrong with them - I have one and love the sound and build quality. If possible I would try and play both of them and see which feels and sounds best to you, do not base your decision on the guitar's origin. Good luck!!
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Re: Epiphone China vs. Korea

I have read alot on MLP about this. It seems that everyone has their own opinion and no real proof. So it's all about what you like I guess. There will not be many people in the section that tells you to buy one over the other. That will be your choice.

But.... I think if you get an older one that hasnt had break repairs, you cant go wrong. It has stood the test of time and should be of quality. But like beauty... quality is in the fingers of the beholder.

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Re: Epiphone China vs. Korea

They're both probably around the same I would say.
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All I know is that my Epi Korean Standards & Customs are better quality than my Chinese ones. I can tell the difference...
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Re: Epiphone China vs. Korea

if only i had the luxury of trying out guitars. I'm from the Philippines, and the only way we get Epis here is through shipping. The next best thing is trying out guitars from other people. I'm quite unhappy with how my friend's Epi LP Custom feels. But that may just be a Lemon or the way the guitar wasn't set-up to my preference. I'm thinking about this purchase really well and will post my decision (hopefully) soon. Thanks for the help guys!
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Re: Epiphone China vs. Korea

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if only i had the luxury of trying out guitars. I'm from the Philippines, and the only way we get Epis here is through shipping. The next best thing is trying out guitars from other people. I'm quite unhappy with how my friend's Epi LP Custom feels. But that may just be a Lemon or the way the guitar wasn't set-up to my preference. I'm thinking about this purchase really well and will post my decision (hopefully) soon. Thanks for the help guys!
Are you sure, your friends Epi is 'legit' ?

There are too many fakes out....
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Re: Epiphone China vs. Korea

I had a Korean-made Epi that I bought new back in 2005 and it was very nice. The Chinese-made versions I've tried have all had chunkier necks which didn't appeal to me. Otherwise, they seemed to be just as well made.

The best Epi LP I've ever played (and now own) is the PRO/FX I bought about 3 months ago. It was made in Indonesia and it is without doubt the best I've played. Superb construction quality and the best top I've ever seen on an Epi LP.

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^^ that guitar looks just fine ^^

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Are you sure, your friends Epi is 'legit' ?

There are too many fakes out....
Yes. my friend had it shipped here from musiciansfriend. unless musiciansfriend is known for selling 'fakes'. and i've tried 'em Chinese fakes and they are not nice.
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Re: Epiphone China vs. Korea

You can get a "lemon" epi from each country, it happens. It just depends on the axe. I have epis from both china and the ROK. All are outstanding players with excellent fit and finish.

I've purchased Epi LPs from MF numerous times without any issues but damage in shipping ocassionally happens. I always purchase an HSC if the axe does not come with one with instructions to ship in the HSC.

Just remember, they all are gonna need a set up unless you purchase from sweetwater and tell them how you want it set up, still, tweaking to your personal liking is gonna be required

I have yet to find a chunkier neck on a std chinese made Epi Lp. I actually prefer that type of neck.
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Some people will probably razz you for the silverburst (I like the way it looks personally, just something I've read) ... FWIW my MIC Epiphone plays great. It's newer though, a 2007 or 8 I think.
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Re: Epiphone China vs. Korea

Much as I despise buying things from China, my most recent Chinese buys have been outstanding. I've had 4 Japanese-made geetars, one American-made, a Mexican Strat, a Korean LP and three Chinese-made, including my LP Special Jr. The Jr. has a fantastic build quality and sounds wonderful, as did the other two Chinese examples I had. They build some great, cheap geetars. My Chinese-made Tweaker is great too. Like stuff from any other country, if you go too cheap, you're going to get garbage.

If I had the extra $$$, I'd buy all American-made, but you're definitely not getting junk if you don't.
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i bought an epi traditional pro back in feb. ordered from musicians friend. played fine right out of the box, all i did was change strings. other than a couple finish issues. its worth the price.
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Why do you dislike Custom LP's?
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Re: Epiphone China vs. Korea

just play both ofthem ,side-by-side, you'll know which one sounds/plays good, that's all!!

good luck ,let us know what you end-up with
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Why do you dislike Custom LP's?
if you are asking me, then, IMO, the customs have weird upper fret access. or it just might be my small hands. (i'm asian, and i'm no taller than Spud Webb) and don't get me wrong here, i love how they look and sound but it's just the playability (personal) that's bothersome.
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just play both ofthem ,side-by-side, you'll know which one sounds/plays good, that's all!!

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When I opened my MIC Epi's control cavity it made me scream like a little girl. Where as my 06' MIK epi is just clean and normal.
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My MIC - I believe that is where the 1960 Ann's were made - is a great guitar and well built. I too like the ESP 256's - they are very nice players. ESP like fret sizes that I tend to be more attuned (big) to so they tend to get my attention.
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Had em all and every single guitar is different. Ive had Chinese ones that I love and Korean. Some Koreans feel lighter than others, different too. Some Chinese you could tell from the Koreans with some feeling, playing even better. Each Guitar is different. Find the one that feels best, plays best for you! Doesn't matter if it's Korean or Chinese. What matters is if you like it or not.
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Re: Epiphone China vs. Korea

My Korean Black Beauty is the best Epi I've had.
But, I've had two Chinese Epi LPs and both felt very different. One felt fantastic (I would have kept it if I hand't already had a black LP) the other didn't feel so good at all.

Point is, like others have said, you can't generalise. You just need to try them for yourself.
Good score on the LTD. Not my cup of tea, I like traditional looking LPs, but that has a really nice top on it.
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Re: Epiphone China vs. Korea

I just bought an Epi Les Paul Standard from a pawn shop in Houston Texas. It's a regular top, cherry sunburst. It has a "used" stamp on the back and a stick on S#. That means that it was sold, but then returned to the factory to repair some defect. It then had to be sold as used.
I peeled the S# sticker off and did a search of the original number. It said that it was made in Korea in Aug. of 2009.
This guitar is beautiful. Not a mark on it! It has a great sound and great action. It came with a hardshell case, a heavy duty patch cord and strap.
The best part about it is, I only paid $200 for it. I could not be happier with this guitar!
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I ca nattest to the fact that ,y Chinese AFD is an absolute, kick-ass guitar--The Qingdao factory has stepped-up considerably to make better guitars as of late, tossing in as well the Joe Bonamassa Model, the Tribute/Tribute Plus Series and the newly-improved Customs
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