The Fake Epiphone Thread! - Page 9

sbaker · 07-03-2008, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by GNR4EVR

Thanks for the comparison and the pics, bro. Very helpful. Everyone can see where were coming from now.

I just messaged the guy on eBay to try and get a refund. We'll see what happens. If he resists, I'll need to get eBay and PayPal involved. If anyone has info on the best way to do that, I would appreciate it.

Sean.

McVeyMac · 07-03-2008, 10:24 AM

Sorry sbaker for the toubles you now find yourself in. Try your best to get a full refund including return shipping. If the seller does not accomodate you, make sure you utilize the PayPal refund policy as much as you can to get satisfaction, report the seller to eBay for selling you counterfeit goods and I would go so far as to press charges with the FBI as this was interstate counterfeiting.

Lesson learned huh, expensive one, but learned well. Luckily my lesson did not cost me anything when I ended up with a fake from eBay because the seller refunded everything for me including return shipping. He honestly thought he was selling a legit guitar.

Another suggestion concerning buying from eBay, make sure the seller will refund 100% of your purchase price including return shipping if the guitar turns out to be fake. Get this assurance before you bid. If they do not agree, go elsewhere.

Sinmastah · 07-03-2008, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by GNR4EVR

Thanks for the comparison and the pics, bro. Very helpful. Everyone can see where were coming from now.

Yeah man, that was a pretty good fake too, hopefully you can get the full refund, best of luck.

GNR4EVR · 07-03-2008, 09:12 PM

Another fake...
New Epiphone Les Paul Custom Red Wine Plus-Top - eBay (item 260257554014 end time Jul-03-08 23:23:43 PDT)
Is it just me, or does it seem like quite a few of these are coming from Australia? Whats up with that? Customs issues maybe?
Reported his other two guitars too.

GNR4EVR · 07-03-2008, 09:27 PM

Nuther fake- GUess from where? Australia again.

New Epiphone Les Paul Custom Red Wine Plus-Top - eBay (item 260257554014 end time Jul-03-08 23:23:43 PDT)

Reported
Reported his two others as well.

GNR4EVR · 07-03-2008, 09:38 PM

Another fake:
Epiphone Les Paul Custom Plus Vintage Sunburst - eBay (item 230265977356 end time Jul-04-08 04:03:19 PDT)
Gee, from Australia! Imagine that.
Reported, and his 3 other guitars as well.

GNR4EVR · 07-03-2008, 09:59 PM

ANother fake- Gee, from.. Australia?

Epiphone Les Paul Black Beauty Electric Guitar NEW - eBay (item 110267086294 end time Jul-05-08 17:00:00 PDT)
Reported
Reported his other Zakk Wilde guitar too.

Sinmastah · 07-03-2008, 10:43 PM

Damn man, you are on fire, Way to go man. I am freaking sick of all these fakes though. This is pathetic. I reported all those Epis too, we need to get them off eBay and send a message to sellers that people are on the look out.

dennistruckdriver · 07-03-2008, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sbaker

I just messaged the guy on eBay to try and get a refund. We'll see what happens. If he resists, I'll need to get eBay and PayPal involved. If anyone has info on the best way to do that, I would appreciate it.

Sean.

On eBay, go to the Dispute Console, and follow directions.
On PayPal, go to the Resolution Center, and click on 'Report a Problem'.
I have had to do it, it is not that hard.
If you used a Visa card #, you can get Visa involved also.

dennistruckdriver · 07-03-2008, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sinmastah

......I am freaking sick of all these fakes......
.......we need to get them off eBay and send a message to sellers that people are on the look out.......

Me too.

Lynyrd77Skynyrd · 07-04-2008, 10:27 AM

Ebay could employ a permanent person to sit there deleting fakes all day. If there are so many fake guitars on there think how much other stuff there is! Ebay needs to clean up it's act quickly or they will find themselves on the end of a very large fine for all this knock-off gear.

GNR4EVR · 07-04-2008, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Lynyrd77Skynyrd

Ebay could employ a permanent person to sit there deleting fakes all day. If there are so many fake guitars on there think how much other stuff there is! Ebay needs to clean up it's act quickly or they will find themselves on the end of a very large fine for all this knock-off gear.

Agreed. I think they owe us a huge thank you of biblical proportions. Or maybe Ill get tired one day and quit, who knows........ NAH!

Big_dawg · 07-04-2008, 11:04 AM

trouble is it pays ebay not to take them off, they dont earn money on people not selling things. They know full well people are selling all types of fake goods via them, and yes they shoudl have a team of people scouring for fake items but they wont, they rely on their little disclaimer when you list an item so they can try and pass the buck.

A few more high profile sueings (maybe from gibson) may make them take some action...

GNR4EVR · 07-04-2008, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Big_dawg

trouble is it pays ebay not to take them off, they dont earn money on people not selling things. They know full well people are selling all types of fake goods via them, and yes they shoudl have a team of people scouring for fake items but they wont, they rely on their little disclaimer when you list an item so they can try and pass the buck.

A few more high profile sueings (maybe from gibson) may make them take some action...

Thinkin thats what needs to happen. Its only a matter of time. The Feds go after child forced laborers that are making 10.00 fake Levis, why not 300.00 guitars? Besides, were getting visibility out there, because the auctioners are changing their game based on what weve said in here. So a lot is happening.

By the way, your quote tears me up every time I read it...

Big_dawg · 07-04-2008, 11:18 AM

I try to please...

GNR4EVR · 07-04-2008, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Big_dawg

I try to please...

Well done...

Sinster · 07-04-2008, 10:53 PM

Is the knobs aligning with the stop a dead give away? I see a lot on ebay with the knobs aligning up but everything on the headstock looks normal..

Sinmastah · 07-04-2008, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sinster

Is the knobs aligning with the stop a dead give away? I see a lot on ebay with the knobs aligning up but everything on the headstock looks normal..

Nah they can vary, if you are curious about a guitar post it on here, and me GNR and a couple other guys will take a look at it and give you the verdict.

BTW 500!!!!

Younggun · 07-04-2008, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sinmastah

Nah they can vary, if you are curious about a guitar post it on here, and me GNR and a couple other guys will take a look at it and give you the verdict.

BTW 500!!!!

Nice 500! Another Fraudster revealed. Congratulations.

Sinmastah · 07-04-2008, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Younggun

Nice 500! Another Fraudster revealed. Congratulations.

Who?

Sinster · 07-04-2008, 11:04 PM

I also want to train my eye to catch them.. Just in case I'm no where by a computer and it's a great deal.
How about this one.. The knobs don't look right.
Epiphone Les Paul - eBay (item 180259318875 end time Jul-05-08 13:22:14 PDT)

Sinmastah · 07-04-2008, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sinster

I also want to train my eye to catch them.. Just in case I'm no where by a computer and it's a great deal.
How about this one.. The knobs don't look right.
Epiphone Les Paul - eBay (item 180259318875 end time Jul-05-08 13:22:14 PDT)

Its legit. The knobs are pretty much perfect, or at least what I can see of them. Also it seems like the listing is also legit, nothing that raises any alarms. You should ask for a headstock pic tho.

Sinster · 07-04-2008, 11:10 PM

This one is fake for sure..
Epiphone Les Paul Custom Alpine White - eBay (item 200236193430 end time Jul-09-08 18:28:07 PDT)

You guys should put together like a quiz which one is fake and which one is real type of thing..

Sinmastah · 07-04-2008, 11:22 PM

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GNR4EVR V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Chesterfield, Michigan Posts: 1,003 Thanks: 5 Thanked 8 Times in 2 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread! Another fake... New Epiphone Les Paul Custom Red Wine Plus-Top - eBay (item 260257554014 end time Jul-03-08 23:23:43 PDT) Is it just me, or does it seem like quite a few of these are coming from Australia? Whats up with that? Customs issues maybe? Reported his other two guitars too. __________________ 2005 Epiphone Elitist Standard Plus Honeyburst Line 6 15 Watt Spider III amp CryBaby

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GNR4EVR V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Chesterfield, Michigan Posts: 1,003 Thanks: 5 Thanked 8 Times in 2 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread! Nuther fake- GUess from where? Australia again. New Epiphone Les Paul Custom Red Wine Plus-Top - eBay (item 260257554014 end time Jul-03-08 23:23:43 PDT) Reported Reported his two others as well. __________________ 2005 Epiphone Elitist Standard Plus Honeyburst Line 6 15 Watt Spider III amp CryBaby

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GNR4EVR V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Chesterfield, Michigan Posts: 1,003 Thanks: 5 Thanked 8 Times in 2 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread! Another fake: Epiphone Les Paul Custom Plus Vintage Sunburst - eBay (item 230265977356 end time Jul-04-08 04:03:19 PDT) Gee, from Australia! Imagine that. Reported, and his 3 other guitars as well. __________________ 2005 Epiphone Elitist Standard Plus Honeyburst Line 6 15 Watt Spider III amp CryBaby

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GNR4EVR V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Chesterfield, Michigan Posts: 1,003 Thanks: 5 Thanked 8 Times in 2 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread! ANother fake- Gee, from.. Australia? Epiphone Les Paul Black Beauty Electric Guitar NEW - eBay (item 110267086294 end time Jul-05-08 17:00:00 PDT) Reported Reported his other Zakk Wilde guitar too. __________________ 2005 Epiphone Elitist Standard Plus Honeyburst Line 6 15 Watt Spider III amp CryBaby

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Big_dawg Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canvey Island Boy... Posts: 1,113 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread! trouble is it pays ebay not to take them off, they dont earn money on people not selling things. They know full well people are selling all types of fake goods via them, and yes they shoudl have a team of people scouring for fake items but they wont, they rely on their little disclaimer when you list an item so they can try and pass the buck. A few more high profile sueings (maybe from gibson) may make them take some action... __________________ Don't knock on Death's door....... Ring the bell and run..... He really hates that.... ---------------------------------------------------- And Jesus said 'come forth and you shall receive eternal life'.... But I came fifth and only got the toaster ---------------------------------------------------- Proud user of: W B Firewaters W B Hot VTPH W B 6707 Greens Damn I got another guitar....

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Big_dawg Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canvey Island Boy... Posts: 1,113 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread! I try to please... __________________ Don't knock on Death's door....... Ring the bell and run..... He really hates that.... ---------------------------------------------------- And Jesus said 'come forth and you shall receive eternal life'.... But I came fifth and only got the toaster ---------------------------------------------------- Proud user of: W B Firewaters W B Hot VTPH W B 6707 Greens Damn I got another guitar....

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Sinster Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 35 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread! Is the knobs aligning with the stop a dead give away? I see a lot on ebay with the knobs aligning up but everything on the headstock looks normal..

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Sinster Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 35 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread! I also want to train my eye to catch them.. Just in case I'm no where by a computer and it's a great deal. How about this one.. The knobs don't look right. Epiphone Les Paul - eBay (item 180259318875 end time Jul-05-08 13:22:14 PDT)

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Sinster Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 35 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The Fake Epiphone Thread! This one is fake for sure.. Epiphone Les Paul Custom Alpine White - eBay (item 200236193430 end time Jul-09-08 18:28:07 PDT) You guys should put together like a quiz which one is fake and which one is real type of thing..