The Fake Epiphone Thread!

[Bandit79]

Originally Posted by gnr4evr

ask him where to send it then turn the address in to the fbi internet fraud site.

+10000

[Big_dawg]

Sin or Guns - you can prob get one ofthe mods to whittle down this thread a bit - Im showing 71 pages here, the majority of which are 'is this a fake' posts. Get rid of a whole bunch of them and some of the new guys can prob start finding the info thats important again, Id imagine it'd take a few hours to read this through from page 1.

Is it just me or are there an inrdinate amount of fakes now being sold in the UK??

[GNR4EVR]

Originally Posted by Big_dawg

Sin or Guns - you can prob get one ofthe mods to whittle down this thread a bit - Im showing 71 pages here, the majority of which are 'is this a fake' posts. Get rid of a whole bunch of them and some of the new guys can prob start finding the info thats important again, Id imagine it'd take a few hours to read this through from page 1.

Is it just me or are there an inrdinate amount of fakes now being sold in the UK??

Yes, that seems to be the case. Australia is trimming down a bit, so is the US, but theyre still there.

[GNR4EVR]

Originally Posted by Big_dawg

Sin or Guns - you can prob get one ofthe mods to whittle down this thread a bit - Im showing 71 pages here, the majority of which are 'is this a fake' posts. Get rid of a whole bunch of them and some of the new guys can prob start finding the info thats important again, Id imagine it'd take a few hours to read this through from page 1.

Is it just me or are there an inrdinate amount of fakes now being sold in the UK??

I will ask about thinning this thread out a bit.

[frontierguy]

Originally Posted by frontierguy

Thanks for the input. I'm still not convinced... You have me worried about the ring. I did not notice that. I have not seen this on the others that I have looked at. Here is another one to look at if you don't mind:

I am still trying to work out a deal with the guy's ZW epi on my first post. He told me that he purchased it new this year from Guitar Center. I found this Picture on the Epiphone web site that shows the switch with the ring.
Epiphone Musical Instruments - Les Paul Collection

Does the Epiphone logo look that bad to you? I believe that it looks slightly different and similar than other one that have been noted a real.

What do you guys think? He wants $550 for it and it has ZW 81/85 pickups.
tks

[GNR4EVR]

Originally Posted by frontierguy

I am still trying to work out a deal with the guy's ZW epi on my first post. He told me that he purchased it new this year from Guitar Center. I found this Picture on the Epiphone web site that shows the switch with the ring.
Epiphone Musical Instruments - Les Paul Collection

Does the Epiphone logo look that bad to you? I believe that it looks slightly different and similar than other one that have been noted a real.

What do you guys think? He wants $550 for it and it has ZW 81/85 pickups.
tks

Thats an unreliable pic, its for an older Zack Wilde. (Click on same link you posted then click "close-up", youll see that the ring isnt there). Epiphone had this guitar picture up for quite some time, even though the guitars were coming without the switch ring. BUt if he got it from Guitar Center, maybe he can materialize the receipt? Because I am not certain whether or not they added the ring for 08'. Perhaps you can call GC and ask?

[peter679]

OK, here's the deal a guy I work with has a guitar forsale he's from israel and bought it over there. So I bring it home and post up picks here's a few please let me know what you think.

Please help me finger this out...

[River]

Originally Posted by peter679

OK, here's the deal a guy I work with has a guitar forsale he's from israel and bought it over there. So I bring it home and post up picks here's a few please let me know what you think.

Please help me finger this out...

In the other thread you had more pictures, and the missing ones are probably going to be the more helpful, especially the one of all six tuners.

[GNR4EVR]

Originally Posted by peter679

OK, here's the deal a guy I work with has a guitar forsale he's from israel and bought it over there. So I bring it home and post up picks here's a few please let me know what you think.

Please help me finger this out...

Real- Its Korean.

[peter679]

Originally Posted by GNR4EVR

Real- Its Korean.

AWESOME! Here's another pic..

[GNR4EVR]

Originally Posted by peter679

AWESOME! Here's another pic..

Yep- real

[Porn_Star19]

I just recieved a epiphone les paul from ebay, the person i bought it from on ebay sells quite a few guitars and the one i recieved was a different colour to the one i bid on. they said they would replace it, it looks genuine but i was wondering if epiphone do a dark blue, almost navy colour with a sort of light zebra kinda stripe under the paint? the guitar was in an epiphone box and had an epiphone tag on it, it feels like a real guitar but they are selling it as new, and the plastic white thing next to the humbuckers (dont know what its called sorry!) has light scratches on it, like a plec has been brushed past it a few times. do you think they are selling a fake or a 2nd hand one as a new one or anything? thanks

[GNR4EVR]

Originally Posted by Porn_Star19

I just recieved a epiphone les paul from ebay, the person i bought it from on ebay sells quite a few guitars and the one i recieved was a different colour to the one i bid on. they said they would replace it, it looks genuine but i was wondering if epiphone do a dark blue, almost navy colour with a sort of light zebra kinda stripe under the paint? the guitar was in an epiphone box and had an epiphone tag on it, it feels like a real guitar but they are selling it as new, and the plastic white thing next to the humbuckers (dont know what its called sorry!) has light scratches on it, like a plec has been brushed past it a few times. do you think they are selling a fake or a 2nd hand one as a new one or anything? thanks

Can you post pics? Thanks!

[Porn_Star19]

i couldnt pick up the colour very well or the scratches with a camera, sorry. do you know of any colours matching this description though? sorry its a pretty crap description! they accepted to have it returned, but when i asked if its shipped direct from china (cuz apparently they go straight to tenessee first) and mentioned the scratches and whether he was selling 2nd hand ones (it had all the tags on it) and he just dodged the questions! thanks

[GNR4EVR]

Originally Posted by Porn_Star19

i couldnt pick up the colour very well or the scratches with a camera, sorry. do you know of any colours matching this description though? sorry its a pretty crap description! they accepted to have it returned, but when i asked if its shipped direct from china (cuz apparently they go straight to tenessee first) and mentioned the scratches and whether he was selling 2nd hand ones (it had all the tags on it) and he just dodged the questions! thanks

Hmmph- Go figure, another trafficker

[Porn_Star19]

how can i tell? the guitar he sent me by accident seems in pretty good condition, seems like a real guitar but im no expert. it just seems odd that it has epiphone tags on it but the pickguard is scratched. i havent really seen anything else that says fake about it but with the amount of hype about fake epiphones it does make me worry.

[GNR4EVR]

Originally Posted by Porn_Star19

how can i tell? the guitar he sent me by accident seems in pretty good condition, seems like a real guitar but im no expert. it just seems odd that it has epiphone tags on it but the pickguard is scratched. i havent really seen anything else that says fake about it but with the amount of hype about fake epiphones it does make me worry.

He may have bait and switched you...

[Porn_Star19]

Originally Posted by GNR4EVR

He may have bait and switched you...

what does that mean?

[River]

Originally Posted by Porn_Star19

what does that mean?

Showed you one thing, shipped you another. Pull 'em in with something that looks great, sell 'em something else.

[Bandit79]

Originally Posted by Porn_Star19

how can i tell? the guitar he sent me by accident seems in pretty good condition, seems like a real guitar but im no expert. it just seems odd that it has epiphone tags on it but the pickguard is scratched. i havent really seen anything else that says fake about it but with the amount of hype about fake epiphones it does make me worry.

We needs pics to tell if it's legit or shit

[GNR4EVR]

Gibson at least emailed me to tell me theyre working on the serial number issue request, so its in the works.

[frontierguy]

Originally Posted by GNR4EVR

Thats an unreliable pic, its for an older Zack Wilde. (Click on same link you posted then click "close-up", youll see that the ring isnt there). Epiphone had this guitar picture up for quite some time, even though the guitars were coming without the switch ring. BUt if he got it from Guitar Center, maybe he can materialize the receipt? Because I am not certain whether or not they added the ring for 08'. Perhaps you can call GC and ask?

Well I still don't know about the ring on the switch for the 08 model but the guy did produced a copy of the receipt.

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/o...tar_center.jpg

Seems to be legit. ??

[GNR4EVR]

Originally Posted by frontierguy

Well I still don't know about the ring on the switch for the 08 model but the guy did produced a copy of the receipt.

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/o...tar_center.jpg

Seems to be legit. ??

I would say so. Youre probably good to go. I would just call GC and ask about the ring, but Im sure they will say its supposed to have it for 08'

[frontierguy]

Originally Posted by GNR4EVR

I would just call GC and ask about the ring, but Im sure they will say its supposed to have it for 08'

I asked the seller about the ring and he told me that he added it himself from some spare LP parts that he had because he liked the way it looked.

[GNR4EVR]

Originally Posted by frontierguy

I asked the seller about the ring and he told me that he added it himself from some spare LP parts that he had because he liked the way it looked.

Ok, then my call is "Good to go!"

[Porn_Star19]

hi, if you read above you can see sorta whats going on with my guitar situation. ive managed to get out of this bloke that he gets these guitars shipped straight from china to him, does that mean that they are fakes? i read somewhere that all guitars are shipped straight from china to tenessee, is that true? thanks

[Big_dawg]

def fake - Epiphone do not ship direct from china to dealers/sellers - despite their brother/aunt/cousins second wifes grandad working in the plant....

[Porn_Star19]

ok, at the moment, he sent me the wrong guitar and its due to be picked up today, the pickguard was scratched too so i thought it might be a fake anyway. what should i say to him in order to get my money back? thanks

[GNR4EVR]

Originally Posted by Porn_Star19

ok, at the moment, he sent me the wrong guitar and its due to be picked up today, the pickguard was scratched too so i thought it might be a fake anyway. what should i say to him in order to get my money back? thanks

Just tell him youre dissatisfied with the quality, tell him about the scratches also. But before you do, give it a good once over keeping in mind the details of what makes it fake, maybe even document with pics. Once he agrees, pack it up & send it back, and then turn in the address he gives you to the FBI fraud site.

[Porn_Star19]

i emailed them and asked for a refund, they said theyd give me one as soon as they get the guitar back. i reported them to the fbi fraud thing. i mentioned that this post helped me too! thanks for the help. im looking at buying this guitar instead now, is it real or fake and how can you tell? Epiphone Les Paul Standard Trans Blue Electric Guitar on eBay, also Epiphone, Electric, Guitars, Musical Instruments (end time 14-Dec-08 20:50:49 GMT)