I Believe my Epi LP is a FAke now

JBLesPaul107 · 05-20-2008, 08:22 PM

I read a post today that list a web site that you tells you where and what year your Epi LP was made... http://www.guitardaterproject.org/epiphone.aspx...and when I submitted the serial # i get "Serial number unrecognized"..plus i have been trying to replace the pots but I cannot locate pots small enough to fit. And the placing of the pots doesn't look right.. I add some picks below.

My parents bought this guitar at a music store when I was in the 8th grade (long time ago) I remember picking it out!!!

What do you think...

Group Shot (to compare to other LPs)

Now up close!!

And here are the small pots????

lifele55 · 05-20-2008, 08:34 PM

Well it looks like its a fake with the pots being in wrong, awkward places...BUT! With other LPs like those, you won't have to worry about that Epi being a fake!

Hmmm... my MIJ also has small pots.... making me wonder...

uOpt · 05-20-2008, 10:03 PM

A shot of the pickup cavities would be more interesting.

dennistruckdriver · 05-20-2008, 10:17 PM

Who does the other LPs belong to? If they are yours, then don't be too concerned about the Epiphone! Those are NICE!

Inside Guy · 05-20-2008, 11:07 PM

Sorry to tell you this but, that Epi is definately a fake. The knob placement is pretty far off and the cutaway doesnt look right either.

Davey Rockets · 05-21-2008, 01:23 AM

well, at least the wiring looks decent.

But those knobs DO look bizarrely far apart.

How does it play/sound?

Eggy · 05-21-2008, 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inside Guy

Sorry to tell you this but, that Epi is definately a fake. The knob placement is pretty far off and the cutaway doesnt look right either.

It's got a nice looking top on it but I'm afraid I agree with the above post. The cut away is way too wide and the knob placement speaks for itself.

ninny404 · 05-21-2008, 06:21 AM

I agree, that is definately fake. Curious though, how does it play?

JBLesPaul107 · 05-21-2008, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninny404

I agree, that is definately fake. Curious though, how does it play?

Playability the Gibson’s are in a whole different ballpark... smoother, I really believe that my playing improved when I got the first Gibson (gold top). Just sucks I didn’t get it off EBAY we got it from a small Mom and Pop guitar store back in 92 or 93… May not be a fake... just a bad production model that should have not left Korea but escaped some how

JBLesPaul107 · 05-21-2008, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uOpt

A shot of the pickup cavities would be more interesting.

I may get a shot of the cavity tonight...I thinking of putting the stock PU back (bridge is a Dimarzio)..

bildozr · 05-21-2008, 07:41 PM

You know, I always thought it was stupid to fake an epi. If your gonna con someone get $800 dollars worth of profit at least. Not a hundred or two. But people shock me....

Sven · 05-21-2008, 07:50 PM

There are alot of fake Epis out there.

diceman · 05-21-2008, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sven

There are alot of fake Epis out there.

That has been coming up a lot lately - who would have thought that the market was so saturated with them!?

lifele55 · 05-21-2008, 08:45 PM

And to think you bought it a long time ago... hell they must be smart to start copying epis even back then!

timgman · 05-22-2008, 11:48 AM

The bill most often counterfeited is the 10 and 20... not the 50 and 100.
enough said. I just find it hard to believe that epi's we're being faked' back in 93 ish...
I think it's real with shotty craftsmanship.
timg

Eminor · 05-24-2008, 04:59 AM

Given the date, first (cynical) guess is Korean Epi, maybe somebody at the factory was hung over that day. Looks pretty "wrong". OTOH it looks so wrong that it kind of seems more like a pioneering fake, possible precursor to these insidious phoneys that we're seeing all over the place now. Maybe one day that will make it a "rare early fake Epiphone model" (!!).

Or not.

At one time I owned a circa 1997 Korean Epi SG and while it sounded more or less like crap, it was definitely authentic looking at least.

Excellent point about lower denomination bills being the most commonly counterfeited. Folks are generally less inclined to be suspicious about something with a lower face value.

timgman · 05-24-2008, 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timgman

The bill most often counterfeited is the 10 and 20... not the 50 and 100.
enough said. I just find it hard to believe that epi's we're being faked' back in 93 ish...
I think it's real with shotty craftsmanship.
timg

Or perhaps you'll need to side by side compare it to korean ipi's of the same genre.
timg

twinrider1 · 05-25-2008, 03:47 AM

The pickups appear to be mounted at an angle, fwiw.

And those fireplace logs, definitely fake. :-)

05-20-2008, 08:22 PM	#1 (permalink)
JBLesPaul107 Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 70 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I Believe my Epi LP is a FAke now I read a post today that list a web site that you tells you where and what year your Epi LP was made... http://www.guitardaterproject.org/epiphone.aspx...and when I submitted the serial # i get "Serial number unrecognized"..plus i have been trying to replace the pots but I cannot locate pots small enough to fit. And the placing of the pots doesn't look right.. I add some picks below. My parents bought this guitar at a music store when I was in the 8th grade (long time ago) I remember picking it out!!! What do you think... Group Shot (to compare to other LPs) Now up close!! And here are the small pots????

05-20-2008, 08:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
lifele55 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Reddot Singapore Posts: 1,513 Thanks: 6 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: I Believe my Epi LP is a FAke now Well it looks like its a fake with the pots being in wrong, awkward places...BUT! With other LPs like those, you won't have to worry about that Epi being a fake! Hmmm... my MIJ also has small pots.... making me wonder... __________________ 2004 Wine Red Epiphone Std - Saosin Autographed '07 2006 Antique Ivory YEC Epiphone Custom 2001 Ebony MIJ Epiphone Custom http://www.myspace.com/asyouweresg www.youtube.com/psychotubes

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uOpt Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Boston, MA, USA Posts: 369 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: I Believe my Epi LP is a FAke now A shot of the pickup cavities would be more interesting.

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dennistruckdriver MLP Trucker Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South of South St. Louis, MO. USA Posts: 3,939 Thanks: 27 Thanked 55 Times in 10 Posts	Re: I Believe my Epi LP is a FAke now Who does the other LPs belong to? If they are yours, then don't be too concerned about the Epiphone! Those are NICE! __________________ Life without music would be TOO DANG QUIET!!! -Dennis The Truck Driver, 2008

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Inside Guy V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 215 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: I Believe my Epi LP is a FAke now Sorry to tell you this but, that Epi is definately a fake. The knob placement is pretty far off and the cutaway doesnt look right either.

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05-21-2008, 01:23 AM	#6 (permalink)
Davey Rockets Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Freakin La La Land Posts: 180 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: I Believe my Epi LP is a FAke now well, at least the wiring looks decent. But those knobs DO look bizarrely far apart. How does it play/sound?

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bildozr Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Middle uh no where Flawda Posts: 1,514 Thanks: 20 Thanked 19 Times in 7 Posts	Re: I Believe my Epi LP is a FAke now You know, I always thought it was stupid to fake an epi. If your gonna con someone get $800 dollars worth of profit at least. Not a hundred or two. But people shock me.... __________________ I unintentionally throw gas on the fire http://customguitar.forumotion.net/forum.htm Epi Les Paul Standard Plus Top Cherry Sunburst w/ Bigsby B70 MLP Thread Pirates "That creepy guy with the parrot and the glass eye"

05-21-2008, 07:50 PM	#12 (permalink)
Sven Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 197 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: I Believe my Epi LP is a FAke now There are alot of fake Epis out there.

05-21-2008, 08:45 PM	#14 (permalink)
lifele55 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Reddot Singapore Posts: 1,513 Thanks: 6 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: I Believe my Epi LP is a FAke now And to think you bought it a long time ago... hell they must be smart to start copying epis even back then! __________________ 2004 Wine Red Epiphone Std - Saosin Autographed '07 2006 Antique Ivory YEC Epiphone Custom 2001 Ebony MIJ Epiphone Custom http://www.myspace.com/asyouweresg www.youtube.com/psychotubes

05-22-2008, 11:48 AM	#15 (permalink)
timgman Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 193 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: I Believe my Epi LP is a FAke now The bill most often counterfeited is the 10 and 20... not the 50 and 100. enough said. I just find it hard to believe that epi's we're being faked' back in 93 ish... I think it's real with shotty craftsmanship. timg

05-24-2008, 04:59 AM	#16 (permalink)
Eminor Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Victoria BC Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: I Believe my Epi LP is a FAke now Given the date, first (cynical) guess is Korean Epi, maybe somebody at the factory was hung over that day. Looks pretty "wrong". OTOH it looks so wrong that it kind of seems more like a pioneering fake, possible precursor to these insidious phoneys that we're seeing all over the place now. Maybe one day that will make it a "rare early fake Epiphone model" (!!). Or not. At one time I owned a circa 1997 Korean Epi SG and while it sounded more or less like crap, it was definitely authentic looking at least. Excellent point about lower denomination bills being the most commonly counterfeited. Folks are generally less inclined to be suspicious about something with a lower face value.

05-25-2008, 03:47 AM	#18 (permalink)
twinrider1 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 486 Thanks: 8 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: I Believe my Epi LP is a FAke now The pickups appear to be mounted at an angle, fwiw. And those fireplace logs, definitely fake. :-)

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