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Old 07-31-2010, 01:51 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Why Epiphones suck

Cause Schecter and ESP can build solid flame/quilted maple tops, with tonepros hardware, locking tuners, and Seymour Duncan or EMG's, and 3 piece stable mahogany necks for this price in Korea where labor costs more:
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Sadly I agree.

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I'm 99% sure that those Schecters still have a veneer on top of a unflamed maple top.
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Cause Schecter and ESP can build solid flame/quilted maple tops, with tonepros hardware, locking tuners, and Seymour Duncan or EMG's, and 3 piece stable mahogany necks for this price in Korea where labor costs more:
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Dude, get over it.
Let's just say thanks for atleast they doing that. And Schecter used to make pieces and guitars for Gibson and Fender... that's quality right there
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Dude, get over it.
Let's just say thank that at least they doing that. And Schecter used to make pieces and guitars for Gibson and Fender... that's quality right there
they made aftermarket parts..like allparts or Warmoth..not the actual crap that came on it stock.
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Re: Why Epiphones suck

Anyhow, they're better quality and price than Epi, I've got that right!
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MIJ FTW

That's all I need to say
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MIJ FTW

That's all I need to say
Actually...I'm pretty sure those Schecters are Korean.

You know...in all honesty....it's amazing what a selling point it is to have a guitar that's been set up from the factory. *cough cough*
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I think that headstock is pretty good looking.

Its actually the negative image of Gibson's open book headstock.
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epiphones don't suck, they pale in comparison. and schecter and esp ltd pale in comparison to mij ESP and epiphone.
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Cause Schecter and ESP can build solid flame/quilted maple tops, with tonepros hardware, locking tuners, and Seymour Duncan or EMG's, and 3 piece stable mahogany necks for this price in Korea where labor costs more:
Amazon.com: Schecter Solo-6 Custom Electric Guitar - Faded Vintage Sun Burst: Musical Instruments
Ahh but you're forgetting something. That Schector is ugly as F**K and ESP's have an ugly headstock and ugly inlays.

But whatever floats your boat, more for the rest of us. Enjoy your Schector.

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Ahh but you're forgetting something. That Schector is ugly as F**K and ESP's have an ugly headstock and ugly inlays.

But whatever floats your boat, more for the rest of us. Enjoy your Schector.

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Malikon...I think the point of the thread is why isn't Epiphone offering the same features on their guitars for a comparable price?

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Malikon...I think the point of the thread is why isn't Epiphone offering the same features on their guitars for a comparable price?

They make these parts available for purchase so if you want better go buy better and put it on there because I don't see them doing that in the near future anyhow. Know what I mean ? and I know you do because I just had to go there.
Besides, they really would like for you to step it up a notch and buy an authentic Gibson guitar with all of the quality high $$ parts already included.
So the choice is opt out for cheap now or invest in something.
(and I'm sure Sentry has never heard this stuff before...let me remind myself)
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I opted for cheap cause i gotta have it now and I can't wait! Investing takes time and patience and I have none so......
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Malikon...I think the point of the thread is why isn't Epiphone offering the same features on their guitars for a comparable price?


He's comparing $700. and $800. guitars with $550. guitars.

Why not compare it to the Tribute or the Prophecy? Because then the argument wont hold any water since they do come with all that nice 'bonus' stuff. And with the Tribute you get a HSC as well.
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Ahh but you're forgetting something. That Schector is ugly as F**K and ESP's have an ugly headstock and ugly inlays.
I second that
plus, what's fun about getting a guitar that's already souped up. I'd rather get a stock epi and upgrade it from there. guitars that already have the aftermarket parts, imo, are boring. there's not much you could do with it besides play it. it's more fun to tinker with the guitar on your own.
anyways. just my opinion. like Malikon said "whatever floats your boat"
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Cause Schecter and ESP can build solid flame/quilted maple tops, with tonepros hardware, locking tuners, and Seymour Duncan or EMG's, and 3 piece stable mahogany necks for this price in Korea where labor costs more:
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Schecter and ESP suck , too
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Cause Schecter and ESP can build solid flame/quilted maple tops, with tonepros hardware, locking tuners, and Seymour Duncan or EMG's, and 3 piece stable mahogany necks for this price in Korea where labor costs more:
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You could not pay me to buy that fugly POS.
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You could not pay me to buy that fugly POS.
hell, even if the guy tortures me i wouldn't even consider buying it
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I sell a ton of Schecters. Most are Korean made. But they are not Epiphone replacements, they are their own thing.

The only guitars that truly suck are Esteban guitars.
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He's comparing $700. and $800. guitars with $550. guitars.

Why not compare it to the Tribute or the Prophecy? Because then the argument wont hold any water since they do come with all that nice 'bonus' stuff. And with the Tribute you get a HSC as well.


There it is.
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sorry but I love my Epi LP Standard Plus top - sounds great and the finish is off the hook - The trans amber color is stunning. the intonation and action are dead on. I'm going to have my buddy modify the wiring and add some caps to the tone knobs. other than that I'm just going to play the hell out of it
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I own a 2008 Schecter Hellraiser and a 2007 Epi Les Paul standard and I agree that Schecter did come come with some added features, namely the EMG 81TW/89 pickups for $200.00 more than I paid for my standard. The only real difference for me was the pickups, and once I put an EMG 81/85 set in my Epi it became my main guitar again. Both of the guitars came with grover tuners and the tune-o-matic bridge. The hellraiser did come with the Tusq nut which was a plus but those only cost about $12.00.

The lesson here was, instead of spending $750.00 on a whole new guitar I could have bought the pickups and a better amp.
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You know...in all honesty....it's amazing what a selling point it is to have a guitar that's been set up from the factory. *cough cough*
My point was referring to MIJ Epiphones
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He's comparing $700. and $800. guitars with $550. guitars.

Why not compare it to the Tribute or the Prophecy? Because then the argument wont hold any water since they do come with all that nice 'bonus' stuff. And with the Tribute you get a HSC as well.
Those are comparable. I'll admit that...It would be nice though if they offered an ebony board on the Epi Custom (which is right in that price range and doesn't have anywhere near those type of features.)

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My point was referring to MIJ Epiphones
Which are no longer being made, unfortunately.
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Malikon...I think the point of the thread is why isn't Epiphone offering the same features on their guitars for a comparable price?

Thats okay Malikons not too bright. The point is Prophecy or not..why wont Epiphone offer these features on the Epi customs and standards...oh yeah..cause then Gibson will probably sell half as many USA's ..same problem like Fender pulling the Japanese line and moving things down to Mexico...and the elimination of the elitist line and Orville. They dont want purists to have an option.
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Thats okay Malikons not too bright. The point is Prophecy or not..why wont Epiphone offer these features on the Epi customs and standards...oh yeah..cause then Gibson will probably sell half as many USA's ..same problem like Fender pulling the Japanese line and moving things down to Mexico...and the elimination of the elitist line and Orville. They dont want purists to have an option.
Fender didn't pull the Japanese line, they are still around its just that the majority of them can't be bought new over here. You can still get used ones shipped in and some places have ways around sending you a new one. Also the Higher End Mexis are just as good as the Low end MIAs in my experience
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