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Old 07-29-2007, 11:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Vintage Switchcraft Switch Tips

These original style of switch tips where used on Gibson vintage guitars from 1947 to 1960 (inclusive), and are made of Catalin (carbolic acid and formaldehyde). Often they are called Bakelite, but really they are Catalin (which is a less fiber version of Bakelite).

Catalin was a poured resin plastic developed by the Catalin plastic company. Bakelite came earlier, and was in granular form, molded under high pressure which becomes hard under intense pressure and heat. Bakelite could be added to almost any material, such as softwood, asbestos, or fiber, which was the "catalyst" and the Bakelite instantly make it more durable and hard. Bakelite was a key ingredient in most of the weapons used in the Second World War. It was also used as a electrical insulator. For this it proved to be very effective. So effective that it is still used as such today.

Catalin on the other hand, is a casting resin (or cast phenolic) which is poured as a hot syrupy liquid into a lead form or mold When Catalin was first used in the mid-thirties, it allowed for many products to be made with bright colors i.e reds, yellows, greens, blues and marblized combinations. Because it is a poured resin, the colors did not "burn out" because of the heat factor involved with Bakelite. That is why most true Bakelite products are usually only black or brown. I believe that the switch tips are in fact Catalin and started out more of an ivory white/soft yellow and discolor (became more yellow) over time, very much in the same way that the highly sought after 30's-40's Catalin radios (among other things) did. Problem with Catalin is that it darkens upon exposure to ultraviolet light. The longer it's exposed to the sun, the darker the coloring. The material hits an end point where the color is almost a dark orange. Over time, the darkness of the surface layer permeates all the way through the material (again in response to UV light). Depending upon the exposure, some Catalin pieces can be polished to remove the surface layer to reveal a lighter color, while others can not (but please don't polish your switch tips!)

The Gibson-used switch tips (as gotten from Switchcraft) are most certainly made of Catalin. By 1961 Catalin switch tips had been replaced by switch tips made of "Plaskon". This was a more modern type of plastic and didn't change color over time.

Other guitar makers during the 1950s used these switch tips too. They were a standard tip available from Switchcraft (the maker of the switches). Infact, Switchcraft most likely supplied the switch tip with their switches. So if a guitar company was buying Gibson-style Switchcraft pickup selector switches during the 1950s, it came with this Catalin switch tip. These switch tips have an unique color, feel, smell, and shape. There are people trying to reproduce them and pass the repros off as originals (at inflated prices). Here are some tips to figuring it out.





Tip is to determine if the plastic is really Catalin/Bakelite (Phenolic Resin). How Can I Tell if It's Real?

Method #1:
Some Bakelite/Catalin collectors recommend the 409 Test. Here's how to do it:

1. Dip a cotton swab in 409 household cleaner and touch a small area of the piece, such as a back that won't be visible.
2. If the piece is vintage Bakelite or Catalin, the accumulated patina will show up as a yellow stain on the cotton swab.
3. Rinse the cleaner off the tested spot right away.

Method #2
Rub the Catalin/Bakelite with your finger until it gets warm. Then you should smell a sulfer/formalehyde scent on the finger if it's Catalin or Bakelite.

Method #3:
Some recommend placing the Catalin or Bakelite in hot water, then remove and sniff. Warmed it smells like camphor.

Method #4:
Another test for authenticity is called the hot pin test. Find an inconspicuous area of the object in question and apply a heated pin. True Catalin/Bakelite gives off a distinctive odor as it melts, very similar to the scent of burnt human hair. If the pin melts the object but no formaldehyde/burnt hair odor is detected, it is most likely an imitation.

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Old 07-30-2007, 01:03 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Interesting~ Thanks for sharing~
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Re: Vintage Switchcraft Switch Tips

Thanks for the info Flick! So the modern official Gibson switch tip is Plaskon? And Switchcraft sells the catalin type?
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Does DMC make the best repro tip?
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Re: Vintage Switchcraft Switch Tips

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Thanks for the info Flick! So the modern official Gibson switch tip is Plaskon? And Switchcraft sells the catalin type?
do not know of anyone who making real catalin tips though I have been toying with it using vintage catalin materals & machining them not casting. Real Catalin tips go for about 200 - 400.00
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Does DMC make the best repro tip?


these are vintage clones sold by Fatboy
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Re: Vintage Switchcraft Switch Tips

My `71 Customs selector switch tip knob was split down the middle when it arrived (when I recieved it), and I looked around the web for a nice vintage amber replacement knob. In the meantime tho, I had some Mammoth ivory pieces I have collected. Just small bits really. So today I made a repro switch tip knob out of a small ivory piece.

Drilled/tapped 1st. Then shaped/polished. It turned out really nice. Has a nice aged color/look to it.
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Re: Vintage Switchcraft Switch Tips

DMC does make a great looking tip in vintage style, but I don't know what its made from, but they're only $39.00 plus S/H at Crazy Parts in Germany. Great history of the Switchcraft tips, Thanks Flick!
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Re: Vintage Switchcraft Switch Tips

I had the vintage switch tip on the hillbillyburst shatter a few weeks ago & can confirm the tips were white when new & aged amber from UV exposure.
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do not know of anyone who making real catalin tips though I have been toying with it using vintage catalin materals & machining them not casting. Real Catalin tips go for about 200 - 400.00
Are you kidding me? Somebody who buys a switch tip for 400 USD is mentally disturbed in my eyes! Sorry! I don't get that! Same thing with pup rings for 300 bucks!? Are you serious?
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Are you kidding me? Somebody who buys a switch tip for 400 USD is mentally disturbed in my eyes! Sorry! I don't get that! Same thing with pup rings for 300 bucks!? Are you serious?

Well same thing happens with lots of normal thing in life... cars....they take you from point A to point B and that's it no matter what kind of car you have, watches do the same thing they give you time and that's it. BUT your money decides if you do it in style or not.

Bragging having $350 rings for some makes them feel a little closer to a 800,000 Gibson burst, hell if i had the money i would buy them ASAP because they are the only ones with the exact same all over characteristics down to the same plastic material.
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Well same thing happens with lots of normal thing in life... cars....they take you from point A to point B and that's it no matter what kind of car you have, watches do the same thing they give you time and that's it. BUT your money decides if you do it in style or not.

Bragging having $350 rings for some makes them feel a little closer to a 800,000 Gibson burst, hell if i had the money i would buy them ASAP because they are the only ones with the exact same all over characteristics down to the same plastic material.
I know what you mean and I don't want to start trouble with any of you guys! It's probably a cool thing to have your own "burst", but I thought, that buying 300,– rings is crazy and now I red thit thread ... sorry ... I just was a little frightened!
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Parts have gone thru the roof based on Burst costs, and it makes it very hard to restore or even maintain a Special when some of the parts needed also fit Bursts. I don't think I've seen humbucker rings for 300. in years, or are you talking about reproduction rings?
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Does anyone Stateside carry the Fatboy ver. 2 amber tip? Thx.
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