help! logo and binding ambering

maicolp · 10-30-2009, 07:47 AM

searched over here but just can't find a solution...
i want to yellow/amber my custom binding and logo coz they are too white
i like some works i saw from nicolasrivera, but i think the ageing process of the laquer over binding and logo are a secret as they are not explained unlike many other things.

anyone can help me?
is there a dye to use? stain that penetrates the lacquer?

Knarbens · 10-30-2009, 07:53 AM

As far as I know, you gotta do it befor finishing a guitar. The first clear coat is a amber stained, that will turn the cream binding more into a yellow. Same for the headstock! Someone please correct me if I'm mistaken! There is a way to do it on a guitar later because I ones saw it on the forum a wile back, but the result is not the best and it's ot easy ...

maicolp · 10-30-2009, 07:58 AM

can you remember the title of the post?

monsterwalley · 10-30-2009, 08:29 AM

If it were me, I would spray a thin amber toner over the guitar and then a couple coats of over thinned coats of clear over that. That way you don't wear through the amber coat and over thinned to cut down on the orange peel, also to melt everthing together.

Just my opinion though.

maicolp · 10-30-2009, 08:43 AM

i was looking into something easier...
what about leather dye or show polish? will they stain thru lacqer?

Knarbens · 10-30-2009, 02:15 PM

I searched for it and finally found it for you man!

Hope that helps! Aging the Binding???

roadhog96 · 10-30-2009, 07:57 PM

Wonder if Frenches Mustard would yellow the clear coat on top of the Binding. Seems like it stains everything it get on. This way you wouldn't have to re-spray the guitar and it's non toxic.

Bubbletonic · 10-30-2009, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roadhog96

Wonder if Frenches Mustard would yellow the clear coat on top of the Binding. Seems like it stains everything it get on. This way you wouldn't have to re-spray the guitar and it's non toxic.

and the guitar then smells like hotdogs from now on, its a win-win situation

DGNRepair · 11-01-2009, 09:20 PM

You might want to give the shoe polish a try. If I remember right thats what was used to age that guitar. Nitro tends to soak in whatever is on it if it is left there too long. I would experiment with a spot, the treble side of the neck binding for instance, you won't need much and it is an on off type of deal. Don't leave it on too long or you will discolor the binding too much. This might not be the result you are after though. If you are looking for a slight yellowing of the finish than you might need to take monsterwalley's advice and shoot super thinned coats of tinted then clear finish.

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maicolp Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 306 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	help! logo and binding ambering searched over here but just can't find a solution... i want to yellow/amber my custom binding and logo coz they are too white i like some works i saw from nicolasrivera, but i think the ageing process of the laquer over binding and logo are a secret as they are not explained unlike many other things. anyone can help me? is there a dye to use? stain that penetrates the lacquer? __________________ EBONY MAFIA member!

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Knarbens Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 1,028 Thanks: 4 Thanked 40 Times in 4 Posts	Re: help! logo and binding ambering As far as I know, you gotta do it befor finishing a guitar. The first clear coat is a amber stained, that will turn the cream binding more into a yellow. Same for the headstock! Someone please correct me if I'm mistaken! There is a way to do it on a guitar later because I ones saw it on the forum a wile back, but the result is not the best and it's ot easy ... __________________ 1992 Orville Les Paul Standard Plaintop HCS 3D 1959 Les Paul

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maicolp Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 306 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: help! logo and binding ambering can you remember the title of the post? __________________ EBONY MAFIA member!

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monsterwalley Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: kansas Posts: 503 Thanks: 3 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Re: help! logo and binding ambering If it were me, I would spray a thin amber toner over the guitar and then a couple coats of over thinned coats of clear over that. That way you don't wear through the amber coat and over thinned to cut down on the orange peel, also to melt everthing together. Just my opinion though. __________________

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10-30-2009, 02:15 PM	#6 (permalink)
Knarbens Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 1,028 Thanks: 4 Thanked 40 Times in 4 Posts	Re: help! logo and binding ambering I searched for it and finally found it for you man! Hope that helps! Aging the Binding??? __________________ 1992 Orville Les Paul Standard Plaintop HCS 3D 1959 Les Paul

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roadhog96 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 155 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: help! logo and binding ambering Wonder if Frenches Mustard would yellow the clear coat on top of the Binding. Seems like it stains everything it get on. This way you wouldn't have to re-spray the guitar and it's non toxic.

11-01-2009, 09:20 PM	#9 (permalink)
DGNRepair Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Fairfield, CT Posts: 213 Thanks: 6 Thanked 5 Times in 1 Post	Re: help! logo and binding ambering You might want to give the shoe polish a try. If I remember right thats what was used to age that guitar. Nitro tends to soak in whatever is on it if it is left there too long. I would experiment with a spot, the treble side of the neck binding for instance, you won't need much and it is an on off type of deal. Don't leave it on too long or you will discolor the binding too much. This might not be the result you are after though. If you are looking for a slight yellowing of the finish than you might need to take monsterwalley's advice and shoot super thinned coats of tinted then clear finish. __________________ Its not a replica, its just under the influence......

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