Is it possible to put whammy bar on my les paul studio?

toonmokka · 01-06-2008, 09:40 PM

Is it possible

And if it is can you tell me how to do it?

BCRGreg · 01-06-2008, 09:46 PM

Not one that works.

BitchBoy · 01-06-2008, 09:49 PM

a kahler

WildeStarr · 01-06-2008, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by toonmokka

Is it possible

And if it is can you tell me how to do it?

You can put on a Floyd Rose or Kahler, but they will require lots of work/routing. Most people don't want to do this to a Gibson. Here is another option. I put one of these on a Gibson LP a few years ago, and I was surprised... it actually works pretty good and stays in tune. No modification to the guitar body is needed.

Les Trem Stop-Tailpiece Tremolos at Stewart-MacDonald

Les Trem Stop-Tailpiece Tremolo
The Les Trem is a high quality spring-tension tremolo for Les Paul® and other guitars with a Gibson style post-mounted stop tailpiece. The unit is easy to install in the guitar's tailpiece post bushings, without woodworking. The arm pivots the hinged rear string-mounting bar to sharpen or flatten the strings approximately one-half step.

The Les Trem has a Bigsby-like feel and bending range, and requires 3-1/4" post spacing. It includes M8 metric and 5/16-24 mounting posts, plus hardware and instructions. The adjustable-length arm can be swung down out of the way when not in use. Note: The Les Trem is not designed to replace combination bridge/tailpieces such as our #0217 LP Junior bridge and #0198 Schaller bridge.

toonmokka · 01-07-2008, 02:36 AM

How much would it cost to put whammy bar on my epi les paul studio?
Like have an expert put it on for me

drewbertca · 01-07-2008, 11:58 AM

there's the stetsbar.....they look to be expensive though....$300 to $350...non invasive though

WildeStarr · 01-07-2008, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by drewbertca

there's the stetsbar.....they look to be expensive though....$300 to $350...non invasive though

I have seen the stetsbar. Ugly and expensive.

dwagar · 01-07-2008, 12:38 PM

probably not as expensive as routing out and ruining the value of the guitar though.

WildeStarr · 01-07-2008, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dwagar

probably not as expensive as routing out and ruining the value of the guitar though.

See post #4

Tristram · 01-07-2008, 02:44 PM

You might be able to have a good tech install a Bigsby on you Paul.

_pete_ · 01-08-2008, 07:09 AM

This was really not that hard to do.
I used the routing templates from Stewart McDonald, a plunge router, and a small drill press.

BTW, it's a 12 year old Epi LP that I picked up om Ebay for under $270 w/case and SD 59's.

dizmal · 01-08-2008, 07:17 AM

now see thats wat i would get but meh

pwoznic · 01-08-2008, 09:23 AM

Just get a digitech whammy.. it has the divebomb effect and you don't have to mod your baby

Duster340 · 01-08-2008, 11:53 AM

If you can fine one with the plate the Washburn Wonderbar actually bolted up to a Les Paul without routing. Ace Frehley used a Wonderbar on his Les Paul's with Frehley's Comet. I can dig up a pic later if you would like. I'm in the process of putting one on an Epiphone Les Paul Studio at the moment. I'm just having a problem finding the the right bolts (metric) with the right size head.

hedzeppelin · 01-08-2008, 12:24 PM

Les Pauls look fuggin' ugly with trems.
It's like puttin' teats on a boar hog.

Big John · 01-08-2008, 12:50 PM

Alex seems to like it...

WildeStarr · 01-08-2008, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Big John

Alex seems to like it...

Yeah, if you want or need to do it, just do it. I would not do it to my 77 LP Custom, but I would be OK doing it to a newer low priced model.

Duster340 · 01-19-2008, 12:58 PM

I finally had the time to put the Wonderbar on my Epi LP Studio. It looks huge but does the job and I can always take it off and put the guitar back to normal and you would never know the Wonderbar was ever on it. No routing or drilling, with the plate under it you just bolt it all together.

dwagar · 01-19-2008, 01:15 PM

Gibson seems to have a few at Namm, maybe you can buy one in the near future.

Willy · 02-18-2008, 06:18 PM

I put a Stetsbar Black Max on my Epi. It is OK at holding the tune, better than Strat bridge but not as good as a Floyd Rose. Since I have installed the Stetsbar I have noticed the sustain of my guitar has taken a serious nosedive. I can't even get the sustain to remain for longer than about 1 beat in any fret above the 12th fret. Bends above the 12th fret have also lost their tone. I wouldn't recommend getting a Stetsbar, I regret laying out the unjustifiable amount of cash. On a positive note, The owner/operator of the company is very accommodating and helpful, I just wished this product was more of what I was looking for.

Next string change, I am putting my TonePro's bridge and stop piece back on.

WILLY

GLP4me · 02-18-2008, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Duster340

I finally had the time to put the Wonderbar on my Epi LP Studio. It looks huge but does the job and I can always take it off and put the guitar back to normal and you would never know the Wonderbar was ever on it. No routing or drilling, with the plate under it you just bolt it all together.

Could you post a couple more pics? Maybe a close please? I'd like to check this out.

GLP4me · 03-01-2008, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GLP4me

Could you post a couple more pics? Maybe a close please? I'd like to check this out.

Got 'em...thanks.

smcgov · 03-03-2008, 09:23 PM

I have a factory mounted Kahler on a 1983 studio> There is some routing, but not much.

Deftone · 03-06-2008, 08:31 PM

My '89 Studio Lite has a factory installed Floyd Rose.

VictorLazarus · 03-10-2008, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by pwoznic

Just get a digitech whammy.. it has the divebomb effect and you don't have to mod your baby

I had the 'whammy' pedal and it really sucked; was a WH4 thou - I've heard the past versions were better.

If I was gonna add a trem to a LP (y I would is a mystery) I'd want a little drilling as possible, lol.

MVL.

rage2 · 03-11-2008, 11:32 PM

It's possible and it works

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YouTube - Crazy Train w/Les Paul Custom Floyd Rose

Will be doing a LP Studio Vintage Mahogany next.

Richie · 09-16-2008, 12:50 PM

I'm really sorry to drag this thread up from the dead, but i am trying to find out about adding a whammy bar to my Les Paul, but i have read these posts and i do like what Duster340 has done by adding a whammy bar without touching the guitar as in drilling bits etc, so i was wondering if i could have more info about this whammy bar that you have used Duster340, and i have researched wonderbar but i can't find anything which is liked to this.

Once again sorry for dragging this thread up.

Regards,

Richie.

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Willy Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 60 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Is it possible to put whammy bar on my les paul studio? I put a Stetsbar Black Max on my Epi. It is OK at holding the tune, better than Strat bridge but not as good as a Floyd Rose. Since I have installed the Stetsbar I have noticed the sustain of my guitar has taken a serious nosedive. I can't even get the sustain to remain for longer than about 1 beat in any fret above the 12th fret. Bends above the 12th fret have also lost their tone. I wouldn't recommend getting a Stetsbar, I regret laying out the unjustifiable amount of cash. On a positive note, The owner/operator of the company is very accommodating and helpful, I just wished this product was more of what I was looking for. Next string change, I am putting my TonePro's bridge and stop piece back on. WILLY

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Richie Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: London, UK Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Is it possible to put whammy bar on my les paul studio? I'm really sorry to drag this thread up from the dead, but i am trying to find out about adding a whammy bar to my Les Paul, but i have read these posts and i do like what Duster340 has done by adding a whammy bar without touching the guitar as in drilling bits etc, so i was wondering if i could have more info about this whammy bar that you have used Duster340, and i have researched wonderbar but i can't find anything which is liked to this. Once again sorry for dragging this thread up. Regards, Richie.