Aging Plastic & Metal Parts ??

BOBBO · 11-15-2007, 01:19 PM

Anyone have tips on how to age plastic parts for my Historic ? I have alot of aftermarket plastic such as DMC and Vintage Clone but I'd like to hear how people here have aged thier parts plastic or metal ! I'm looking to add a little grunge to my pickguard ! Was thinking of using brown shoe polish ? I know Flick knows alot about this stuff !!! Flick !!!!!!!!!!

BOBBO · 11-15-2007, 05:52 PM

These vintage 50's guards have great crud on them !! I want to duplicate that !

***FLICKOFLASH*** · 11-15-2007, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BOBBO

These vintage 50's guards have great crud on them !! I want to duplicate that !

rub in fresh horse manure

or elephant dung

***FLICKOFLASH*** · 11-15-2007, 06:18 PM

The # 1 tool is a dollar store fingernail buffer

These have 4 0r more grits of Micro-Mesh

***FLICKOFLASH*** · 11-15-2007, 06:23 PM

other trade secrets
a scotch pad
Kiwa brown shoe polish
Leather dye
Ritz clothing dye Yellow & sunset orange
A dirty hard rug
Boiled green walnut ryhnes
incense
cigarette smoke
beer
tabasco sauce
coffee grounds wet
Tea
Evergreen stamping ink
ambered laquar
touch up cabinet sticks

The Sun

BOBBO · 11-15-2007, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by FLICKOFLASH

rub in fresh horse manure

or elephant dung

Sorry !! My horse and my elephant are both constipated !! Now what ?????

BOBBO · 11-15-2007, 08:38 PM

Well Flick .. Since I had no excrament to wipe on my guitar I used a combo of black & brown Kiwi polish to achieve some grunge ! What do you all think ??

BOBBO · 11-15-2007, 09:17 PM

Probably should have put this in the custom shop !! duh...

***FLICKOFLASH*** · 11-16-2007, 11:26 PM

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BOBBO · 11-18-2007, 03:44 PM

Well I use some of the Kiwi shoepolish on my Uncle Lou's tuners and i think they came out great !

Before aging ..

After aging ..

Spicoli · 11-18-2007, 04:09 PM

Good job Bobbo, looks sweet.

Volusia · 11-22-2007, 12:23 AM

Here's an experiment I did with one of my strats. It came stock with white bell knobs and white pup covers. I wanted to change it up a bit so I bought cream ones but they looked orangish instead. So I decided to try and age the look of the white pup covers and keep the cream knobs.

I started by sanding them with 1000 grit sandpaper, then finished with steel wool. I roughed the knobs up a bit with pliers and made some scratches in the pup covers. I then applied Old English dark wood stain to them and finished with a light spray coat of satin lacquer.

I don't know yet if I like it or not. I may try again to see if I get a better outcome. If I do I still have the pickguard that will need done to match them.

New orangish knob and pup cover with stock white knob

After the vintage treatment

Installed, not a good pic though

BOBBO · 11-23-2007, 03:23 PM

The Strat pups look nice and vintage cruddy !! How's it look with the laquer on it in person ?

Volusia · 11-24-2007, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BOBBO

The Strat pups look nice and vintage cruddy !! How's it look with the laquer on it in person ?

Not too bad Bobbo. It's a satin laquer so it's hardly noticeable. Here's the thing though, the knobs and pup covers are two different colors. So, I think I am going to do the white bell knobs that came stock with the strat and they should match up to the pups pretty good. Then all I will have left to do is the pickguard. I'll post pics again when I get done.

BOBBO · 11-27-2007, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by volusia1*

Not too bad Bobbo. It's a satin laquer so it's hardly noticeable. Here's the thing though, the knobs and pup covers are two different colors. So, I think I am going to do the white bell knobs that came stock with the strat and they should match up to the pups pretty good. Then all I will have left to do is the pickguard. I'll post pics again when I get done.

Any new stuff yet volusia ?

Volusia · 11-27-2007, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BOBBO

Any new stuff yet volusia ?

I'm working on it. I'll get back with ya later

Roman Rist · 12-13-2007, 05:20 PM

Bobbo,

Looks good! Now take all your screws, scuff them up with some steel wool, and put them in a bowl filled with water, when the water evaporates, you will have some authentic rust on them.
cheers,
Roman

BOBBO · 01-04-2008, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RFR

Bobbo,

Looks good! Now take all your screws, scuff them up with some steel wool, and put them in a bowl filled with water, when the water evaporates, you will have some authentic rust on them.
cheers,
Roman

I dont want big gobs of rust !! Just a little patina !!

Oh_Well! · 01-05-2008, 09:57 PM

BOBBO,

Not to solicit...but have you still got your Historic plastic (Switchwasher, jackplate, and pickguard)? I need a matching set because someone's building me a guitar. Now who could that be...? Thanks.

BOBBO · 01-05-2008, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Oh_Well!

BOBBO,

Not to solicit...but have you still got your Historic plastic (Switchwasher, jackplate, and pickguard)? I need a matching set because someone's building me a guitar. Now who could that be...? Thanks.

Sorry !! All that stuff went on Ebay a long time ago !! Welcome to MLP !

Oh_Well! · 01-06-2008, 04:27 PM

Thanks. And thank you for the quick response!

johnbeloe · 06-10-2008, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RFR

Bobbo,

Looks good! Now take all your screws, scuff them up with some steel wool, and put them in a bowl filled with water, when the water evaporates, you will have some authentic rust on them.
cheers,
Roman

yeah that works a gem.....put some salt in there too and it speeds things up...put in some brand new shiny screws, about 6 hours in the sun and they came out looking 50 years old - amazing!!

shal1234 · 06-10-2008, 06:56 PM

Did the shoe polish leave the surfaces streaky feeling, or any scent? I polish my boots with kiwi quite a bit and it's real squeeky and very strong smelling.

BOBBO · 06-10-2008, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shal1234

Did the shoe polish leave the surfaces streaky feeling, or any scent? I polish my boots with kiwi quite a bit and it's real squeeky and very strong smelling.

No .. It didn't leave it streaky because i buffed it off well !!! Most of the color that was there at first has faded away due to UV rays ... But it did take that brand new edge off certain things , I also used it to take the newness of my new celluloid inlays !!!

Mike60 · 06-10-2008, 07:36 PM

...vinegar works well on metal and doesn't look too phoney.

xsouldriverx · 06-10-2008, 08:56 PM

is there anyway to get that orange brownish iron rust look on metal without it actualy rusting/dunking it in chlorine bleach?

tigerfan22001 · 06-12-2008, 01:57 AM

That looks cool, I think I may have to give this aging stuff a try.

buyusfear · 06-12-2008, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike60

...vinegar works well on metal and doesn't look too phoney.

I actually aged my parts-o-caster and all the parts..

I used a technique I devised with balsamic vinegar, that I heated in a fry pan, covered the heads, and then used etchant solution to aged them further...
I soaked the pup covers in coffee and tea, and used brown kiwi polish on the pickgaurd.

gnr2206 · 06-21-2008, 12:51 PM

alsolutly wrap it off the groung and it looks ages

and sand it too!!

best of luck aging it lol

gnr2206 · 06-21-2008, 01:28 PM

pay a dude to do it for ya or something

it pays>>>

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BOBBO MVP Clown Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: N.J. Posts: 19,477 Thanks: 237 Thanked 463 Times in 90 Posts	Aging Plastic & Metal Parts ?? Anyone have tips on how to age plastic parts for my Historic ? I have alot of aftermarket plastic such as DMC and Vintage Clone but I'd like to hear how people here have aged thier parts plastic or metal ! I'm looking to add a little grunge to my pickguard ! Was thinking of using brown shoe polish ? I know Flick knows alot about this stuff !!! Flick !!!!!!!!!! __________________ " Over the Pond Guy " PAF Pickups & M69 Rings ... @ OverthePondGuy@aol.com

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BOBBO MVP Clown Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: N.J. Posts: 19,477 Thanks: 237 Thanked 463 Times in 90 Posts	Re: Aging Plastic & Metal Parts ?? Well I use some of the Kiwi shoepolish on my Uncle Lou's tuners and i think they came out great ! Before aging .. After aging .. __________________ " Over the Pond Guy " PAF Pickups & M69 Rings ... @ OverthePondGuy@aol.com

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Volusia Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 1,377 Thanks: 56 Thanked 14 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Aging Plastic & Metal Parts ?? Here's an experiment I did with one of my strats. It came stock with white bell knobs and white pup covers. I wanted to change it up a bit so I bought cream ones but they looked orangish instead. So I decided to try and age the look of the white pup covers and keep the cream knobs. I started by sanding them with 1000 grit sandpaper, then finished with steel wool. I roughed the knobs up a bit with pliers and made some scratches in the pup covers. I then applied Old English dark wood stain to them and finished with a light spray coat of satin lacquer. I don't know yet if I like it or not. I may try again to see if I get a better outcome. If I do I still have the pickguard that will need done to match them. New orangish knob and pup cover with stock white knob After the vintage treatment Installed, not a good pic though __________________ *" Less is More"* www.myspace.com/brianlucasproject http://www.soundclick.com/blucas Last edited by Volusia; 11-22-2007 at 12:38 PM.

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