Guitarists you don't, "get."

[something0original]

kirk hammett= over-appreciated
clapton is okay i guess
alot of shred players im not that into (i like metal a little bit but not enough to like emotilonless yelling paired with a crappy-but-uber-fast guitar solo that doesnt take much to play)

[MelonSnapple]

Originally Posted by 155

nothing to not get about this, just a badass tune

YouTube - Black Label Society - 13 years of grief

I liked the intro but the vocals and actual song ruined it for me.

[GuitarnLax36]

Well for all of those people who say that they dont like clapton or jimmy page they probabley dont like blues am I wrong? Clapton and pages style is all based off of the pentatonic scales or the "blues scales". if you don't like blues you won't like them. But, if you do like blues chances are Clapton is one of your favorite guitarists hes my number 1 favorite. Page is more rocky though but still mostly sticks to the blues scales. Then again so do most guitarists. I do lol. For those of you who don't like Clapton I highly recommend you to take thorough listen to the beano album. It is actually called John mayall and the bluesbreakers with eric clapton. That album got me hooked on playing the blues and classic rock and made me so curious to dig deeper into the real roots of blues and to discover music and musicians I would have never dreamed. Ok now for my list

I dont get why people like john mayer I think hes a big SRV rippoff now Joe Bonnomassa that guy can play!

[FennRx]

Originally Posted by GuitarnLax36

Well for all of those people who say that they dont like clapton or jimmy page they probabley dont like blues am I wrong? Clapton and pages style is all based off of the pentatonic scales or the "blues scales". if you don't like blues you won't like them. But, if you do like blues chances are Clapton is one of your favorite guitarists hes my number 1 favorite. Page is more rocky though but still mostly sticks to the blues scales. Then again so do most guitarists. I do lol. For those of you who don't like Clapton I highly recommend you to take thorough listen to the beano album. It is actually called John mayall and the bluesbreakers with eric clapton. That album got me hooked on playing the blues and classic rock and made me so curious to dig deeper into the real roots of blues and to discover music and musicians I would have never dreamed. Ok now for my list

I dont get why people like john mayer I think hes a big SRV rippoff now Joe Bonnomassa that guy can play!

beano isnt that great. the les paul/marshall sound is the most important thing there. the music is kinda...blah IMO.

[HARDWEAR]

Originally Posted by nauc

you dont get this... YouTube - Buckethead - Whitewash

agreed...

Say what you want but that guy has developed his own sound, style, and aura and a lotta people love him. He's a good player...and whether or not he has a bucket on his head and a mask on his face, Whitewash is killer.

[MelonSnapple]

Originally Posted by hardwear

agreed...

Say what you want but that guy has developed his own sound, style, and aura and a lotta people love him. He's a good player...and whether or not he has a bucket on his head and a mask on his face, whitewash is killer.

qft

[Satch0922]

Originally Posted by Deftone

Steve Vai. Granted he is amazing...but ever seen this guy play? It's just guitar babble. And he makes these ridiculus faces when he plays. Like he's suprised or something. He looks like an idiot.

Wow, surprised by that one.

My favorite CD is "Alien Love Secrets". Truly a piece of work that came from the heart. Yes he has that Vai humor on a few songs (don't forget he played with Zappa...). If you can get that CD, listen to it and you will change your mind....it did mine.

Here he is playing "For the Love of God" with the Holland Metropole Orchestra. Proof that is not ALL flash, the Orchestra is playing along with him on passages that some may assume to be flash.

YouTube - Steve Vai - "For The Love Of God"

YouTube - Steve Vai - "For The Love Of God"

[davemccarthy707]

I tell you who I do get..
Freddie King
Albert King
Albert Collins
Buddy guy
Eric Clapton tries to be these guys but falls way short everytime. He has zero charisma.

[Harpozep]

Originally Posted by FennRx

beano isnt that great. the les paul/marshall sound is the most important thing there. the music is kinda...blah IMO.

Thank you! +1
I went out, got Beano, and got bored.
I guess it's a product of the time. You had to be there I imagine. Musta been a great change from what was, but now,....?

[mike newport]

Originally Posted by davemccarthy707

I tell you who I do get..
Freddie King
Albert King
Albert Collins
Buddy guy
Eric Clapton tries to be these guys but falls way short everytime. He has zero charisma.

Clapton said a long time ago, he considered Buddy Guy the best blues player alive. Clapton SMOKES Albert King IMO. Freddie King & Albert Collins are very creative players.

[River]

Originally Posted by Harpozep

Thank you! +1
I went out, got Beano, and got bored.
I guess it's a product of the time. You had to be there I imagine. Musta been a great change from what was, but now,....?

You did have to be there. And I guess "the bigger they are the harder they fall" applies here too.

The hero of British Blues, to me, is John Mayall. He got me listening to Willie Dixon, John Lee Hooker, et al. EC was just one of the tools he used to get the job done.

I don't know from ultimate tone, but anyone who doesn't get "a" Jimmy Page playing "a" medley of seminal blues/rock as in Whole Lotta Love on How The West is Won (Going Down Slow..., holy shit) - they are whom I do not get. There are many other examples.

But that's just me. When the hair stands up on the back of your neck and chills go up and down your spine, you don't need affirmations from others.

[mike newport]

Vai is extremely gifted, but I can't listen to him. Different music. Gilmour IMO is MASSIVELY over rated, but that's comin from a guy who never got into Floyd. "Us & Them" and "Wish You Were Here" are awesome songs. Truthfully, it doesn't take much for me to like, or be impressed by anyone playing the guitar or bass. I mean, it needs to sound musical & be played with a certain degree of competency, but I like alot of players, famous or not. Gilmour is a fine player, but for MY taste, he's not extraordinary. I'm sure I don't even really know how good he may be, just because I never got into listening to them. Music, whether listening, observing or playing is VERY subjective...m

[Deftone]

Originally Posted by Satch0922

Wow, surprised by that one....[/url]

Don't be suprised, I couldn't believe someone didn't like EVH. It's all subjective. Everyone has an opinion.

I do like Satriani, though. As far as the "Shredders" genre goes, he seems to be able to craft a decent song as well as play anything at any speed. I saw him play the "Experience Hendrix" show at the Warfield w/ Buddy Guy and he seemed truly appreciative of Buddy's Guys playing.

Buddy Guy, BTW.....is phenominal.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Harpozep

Thank you! +1
I went out, got Beano, and got bored.
I guess it's a product of the time. You had to be there I imagine. Musta been a great change from what was, but now,....?

I personally think good music is good music regardless of hair styles or skirt lengths - if its about fashion, count me out.

Having said that, I think there are 3 or 4 great tracks on the Beano album, the rest are of interest, but not rivetting (for me). Its more about Clapton's playing for me than it is about the band - which is a shame.

I'm hearing a lot about Clapton's playing with Cream at Detroit in 1967, as in the best he ever played. Anybody familiar with the recording?

[mike newport]

Satriani's a nice guy, and I think he appreciates many different styles of music. I like Clapton cos of the early innovative playing & gear. I like him cos of his attitude too. Buddy Guy, IMO, is one of the tastier players of his genre/era, but definitely not an incredible player. The Guy gigs alot too, STILL, so he must be gettin ta SOMEBODY....it truly IS all subjective.

[winiwii]

hhmmmm
this is hard(thast what she said)
satch is great at his craft but the lack of lyrics kills me
vai is 10 minuts of blah
and guitarist from one of those cookie cutter bands who plays 3 notes and thinks he`s "the" shit when he`s just shit (i`m looking at you all american rejects)

[Extremerocker827]

I dont get Malmsteen(why is everyone love his music just cuz its fast?), Satriana, and Buckethead. I guess thats pretty biased against shredders, but I just dont get why mindless notes that are just played fast to cover them up, is called music. Music is supposed to melodic, and its music, not a siren going off or something(thats what they sound like sometimes). Yeah and I hate those guitarists in those boy bands that suck but they get all popular(somehow) and think they r amazing.

[05jrock]

Originally Posted by LPV

A guy like Steve Vai has more talent in his little toe than I could ever dream of having. That being said, after watching him for 4 minutes and being amazed by the sheer athletics... I'm bored. Yet Highway to hell comes on in the car and I'm still playing air guitar after 30 years. I'm just a simpleton.

+1

well said man

[mike newport]

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[slowhand0461]

Malmsteen and F.....I mean Buckethead........endless noodling just irks me.

[lazz]

i dont get
pete townsend
john squire
bo diddley
chuck berry
buddy guy

[riles6789]

Anybody and everybody from the 80's has no creativity (only technique up the butt)
sure they play great, but they dont say anything when they play.

All the best players are unkown because their music is too sophisticated for the world.

Like Oz Noy
Julien Kasper
Chirs McDermott
Thaddius Hogarth


If you want to hear good guitar playing with creativity, emotion, and great improvisation, check out the jam band circuit. Not Bisco or any of that repetative bullshit, but the jazz funk stuff. Those guys truly know what theyre saying on their instruments.

Medeski Martin & Wood w/ Scofield
The Brew
String Cheese Incident
George Benson
some Soulive
some Herbie Hancock
etc.


Shredding is gay!

[mike newport]

Originally Posted by riles6789

Anybody and everybody from the 80's has no creativity (only technique up the butt)
sure they play great, but they dont say anything when they play.

All the best players are unkown because their music is too sophisticated for the world.

Like Oz Noy
Julien Kasper
Chirs McDermott
Thaddius Hogarth


If you want to hear good guitar playing with creativity, emotion, and great improvisation, check out the jam band circuit. Not Bisco or any of that repetative bullshit, but the jazz funk stuff. Those guys truly know what theyre saying on their instruments.

Medeski Martin & Wood w/ Scofield
The Brew
String Cheese Incident
George Benson
some Soulive
some Herbie Hancock
etc.


Shredding is gay!

I guess everybody's stupid then. Frankly, I've heard alot of "sophisticated" players that, are very good musicians, they have alot of things down, but some, if not all of their music is alot of jumbled nonsense. I've heard and seen alot of great jazz musicians who go off on a certain tangent, whether it be a speed showcase, or a "selected" note showcase, or a flat out improvisation, & it sounds , well, not good to MY ears. Personally, I think some people take all this stuff too seriously. I take it seriously, but I also like to just kick back & enjoy the music. If you don't like the music, you can always zip it up & leave. Granted, SOME shredding is bad, but not ALL of it. I like some of it. BTW, George Benson on a good night is absolutely great...m

[eaglewolf]

Funny thing, this thread started with (and continued on for six pages) with people trashing Clapton. I don't know where he fits in as far as a talented guitarist, but I was reading the Gibson Custom 2009 catalog and found this on page 3:

"Zoom back to the guitar market of the late 1950's and you find a Les Paul that is becoming harder and harder to sell, alongside a popular music scene that doesn't appear to have accepted the merits of the set-neck solidbody electric with dual humbucking pickups. Lurch forward less than a decade, however, and the Les Paul is setting the rock and blues worlds on fire. What happened? In two words,

Eric Clapton."

If nothing else, Gibson feels that he helped sell the Les Paul, which is good for us. I'm sure there were others as well, but in some sense we owe a debt of gratitude to him for that, even if we don't "get" his music.

Personally I've enjoyed a lot of his music, regardless of what guitar he played it on. He isn't my favorite artist, but I have several of his albums that I really enjoy. Maybe we just like trashing everyone out there, or we really don't understand why one artist is so popular (I'm not immune to that either.) I guess that is why they call it taste, and it is different for each of us.

David

[mike newport]

Originally Posted by eaglewolf

Funny thing, this thread started with (and continued on for six pages) with people trashing Clapton. I don't know where he fits in as far as a talented guitarist, but I was reading the Gibson Custom 2009 catalog and found this on page 3:

"Zoom back to the guitar market of the late 1950's and you find a Les Paul that is becoming harder and harder to sell, alongside a popular music scene that doesn't appear to have accepted the merits of the set-neck solidbody electric with dual humbucking pickups. Lurch forward less than a decade, however, and the Les Paul is setting the rock and blues worlds on fire. What happened? In two words,

Eric Clapton."

If nothing else, Gibson feels that he helped sell the Les Paul, which is good for us. I'm sure there were others as well, but in some sense we owe a debt of gratitude to him for that, even if we don't "get" his music.

Personally I've enjoyed a lot of his music, regardless of what guitar he played it on. He isn't my favorite artist, but I have several of his albums that I really enjoy. Maybe we just like trashing everyone out there, or we really don't understand why one artist is so popular (I'm not immune to that either.) I guess that is why they call it taste, and it is different for each of us.

David

cool

[Leumas]

I have to fall on the pro-clapton side of the argument. There's stuff of his I'm not too keen on, but most of the time I really enjoy him. I find I enjoy him more when he's part of a group or in a collaboration than I do when he is solo. I don't get a lot of the shredders, but that's just because it's not my thing and I haven't spent hardly any time forming an opinion.

One name I haven't seen either way is Brian Setzer...I love him as a guitarist. I saw him and John McLaughlin within 2 weeks of each other once. John McLaughlin may be the greatest talent I've ever seen in person, but after 5 minutes when the amazement wore off I was bored to tears with his show. Brian Setzer and the orchestra, on the other hand, had me stoked to play for the next month.

[mike newport]

My next comments were gonna be about McGlaughlin...and you said it well. Another guy who could fall into there, is Robert Fripp...m

[toneguy86]

Let's see...top of the list: Eddie Van Halen (wankerama with point or direction and crappy tone)
Next: Joe Satriani (worse tone and more wank...)
Next: Steve Vai (Satriani only more one dimensional)

Others have mentioned Clapton and Beck. I would agree but also like others have said, I loved the earlier stuff, just don't get what they do today--Beck in particular.

Mark

[GuitarEnZo12]

Joe Satriani
Kirk Hammet
Buckethead
Steve Vai
EVH
Slash
Eric Clapton
Jeff Beck
Pete Townshend


Some that I do "Get" -

Jimmy Page
Buddy Guy
Jimi Hendrix
Alex Lifeson
SRV
Keith Urban
Brad Paisley
Jerry Reed

[arcanis494]

I might have posted a while back but my opinion is always changing.
My tastes change all the time but for now:

Kirk Hammet- His tone is horrible, 12 year old youtube kids can play his songs better than he does I think mustaine is a better player than him and he doesn't even consider himself a "lead" player anymore

Buddy Guy- I have always thought his peers are miles ahead of him.

Santana- I used to love his stuff but now it seems like endless noodling to me. I do love the recording of Soul Sacrifice at Woodstock though.

Recent Eric Clapton- He did that one tour that was strictly blues and he played a 335 and the videos of that are great, but his pop stuff is "bleh" to me.

Keith Richards- Sloppy as hell, the way he bends notes bugs me, did come up with some cool riffs though. I love Mick Taylor's playing when he was in the stones though.

DragonForce- No comment

All the "exteme satanic metal" guys that tune 5 million octaves low and go chuga chuga chuga
I do like metal but some of this new stuff is terrible.