keeping on open mind.....

st.bede · 09-06-2008, 12:01 AM

I just post this on another thread:

"I have to admit that there are a few that I do not really dig but, IMHO...I can and have learned something from everyone....I say just listen, it really can not hurt your playing to always bring respect and humilty with you...once again, just my thoughts"

do you think this is true or have the new age people invaded my mind?

st.bede · 09-06-2008, 12:11 AM

who voted true with me? of course if you want to remine anonymous, that is your call. I respect you lol

Redbird · 09-06-2008, 12:14 AM

I try, but some music is too tough to take for my ear. I will give credit to any talented musician, but i have to able to digest it.......

***b-squared*** · 09-06-2008, 12:15 AM

I voted "ture."

I learn something new everyday.

Even from people I may not necessarily like all that much.

BB

st.bede · 09-06-2008, 12:31 AM

I wonder if anyone will disagree?....I should of taken the names of those poor bastards that got slamed in the thread that started this whole poll idea.

LongBeach · 09-06-2008, 03:18 PM

Yes, I voted true. It is true, you can learn something new everyday.
But, you can also learn of bunch of shit from "some" new & old artists.
pick and choose, it's a free country. And, opinions are just that, opinions.

AXE · 09-06-2008, 04:02 PM

I'm all about the ture thing .
Country, Thrash, Nu Crap, if you listen there always something in there.

jomo · 09-06-2008, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Redbird

I try, but some music is too tough to take for my ear. I will give credit to any talented musician, but i have to able to digest it.......

I agree. I can appreciate a band or musician but not care for their music.
By the way, let's see the full size picture in your sig.

NeubyWanKaneuby · 09-09-2008, 11:51 PM

Mostly true... also depends on what your definition of 'musician' is...

toneguy86 · 09-10-2008, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ^AXE^

I'm all about the ture thing .
Country, Thrash, Nu Crap, if you listen there always something in there.

I used to hate country until a player I really respected that I used to work at a recording studio with told me that country stations where where you would here some of the hottest guitar playing today. Since I respected him as a player I started listening. I'm not a huge fan in general, but I have my favorites. There are really some smokin country players. I also confess a love for a lot of classical stuff...not all, but I try to keep an open mind. Listen to Samual Barber's Adagio for Strings. If that don't move your soul nothin will.

Mark

River · 09-10-2008, 12:07 AM

I voted "new age people have invaded your mind", not because I don't agree with your premise, but because there are some folks who just can't reach me.

monroe · 09-10-2008, 12:21 AM

I voted "ture"
BTW, what's the past tense of "ture"?

River · 09-10-2008, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by monroe

I voted "ture"
BTW, what's the past tense of "ture"?

Turd.

River · 09-10-2008, 12:26 AM

Seriously, though, I'd vote "true" based only on the poll questions, but I read the verbiage too, which means I'd have to be able to learn anything from everything, and sorry, I just can't say that. There's some stuff I just can't even listen to, much less learn from.

JasonC · 09-10-2008, 12:30 AM

Sure, I like a wide range of music. A lot of it really does have to appeal to me in some way though, even in the beginning. I'll listen to anything once, but if it just sounds terrible to me I probably won't purposely torture myself again. I think if you're looking to cultivate some fans for your music, you need to keep that in mind... some sort of pop sensibility, however minute, can go a long way.

If you're just completely and totally out there, you probably won't gain too many fans... without feeding them tons of mushrooms first.

05jrock · 09-10-2008, 06:42 AM

True.I love rock/metal music but one of the first tunes I learned to play was dueling banjos.Its good to keep an open mind I think,except for rap music.lol

toneguy86 · 09-10-2008, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 05jrock

True.I love rock/metal music but one of the first tunes I learned to play was dueling banjos.Its good to keep an open mind I think,except for rap music.lol

Hip hop is not all gansta rap and there are some amazing artists who happen to fall into the rap/hip hop genre. Check out Michael Franti and Spearhead or The Fugis. Great grooves, etc. and, especially with Spearhead and a few other bands like that, lots of good guitar.

Mark

armann · 09-12-2008, 03:34 PM

"new age people invaded my mind"

Sounds about right.

st.bede · 09-12-2008, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by River

Seriously, though, I'd vote "true" based only on the poll questions, but I read the verbiage too, which means I'd have to be able to learn anything from everything, and sorry, I just can't say that. There's some stuff I just can't even listen to, much less learn from.

there really is a resonable debate underneath my mistaken polling question but, I do feel that a lot of times people will dismiss something that is clearly bad in one way before they have really listened...

for example...'N Sync, by any observation as what it is...a created, produced, (bad) pop boy band....but by listening to them I picked up some good midi/synth programing ideas

I could go on endlessly....sometimes it could be a small idea...for example...by listening to ranchro (just the pop stuff on the radio not the more cool stuff) I started to think more about 3/4 time and crazy over the top snare rolls.... originally I started listing to that stuff to be able to write a piece of music for an accordian and along they way I picked up some good ideas...

that is my argument....but, I tend to work in many areas of music (mostly due to carpel tunnel) insteed of just playing guitar....

st.bede · 09-12-2008, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toneguy86

Hip hop is not all gansta rap and there are some amazing artists who happen to fall into the rap/hip hop genre. Check out Michael Franti and Spearhead or The Fugis. Great grooves, etc. and, especially with Spearhead and a few other bands like that, lots of good guitar.

Mark

+1

(power to the peacefull)

Joeydego · 09-12-2008, 05:29 PM

ture for me too!

JasonC · 09-12-2008, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toneguy86

Hip hop is not all gansta rap and there are some amazing artists who happen to fall into the rap/hip hop genre. Check out Michael Franti and Spearhead or The Fugis. Great grooves, etc. and, especially with Spearhead and a few other bands like that, lots of good guitar.

Mark

Another one I'd add that sometimes falls into the Rap/HH genre is Roy Hardgove. Some SERIOUS grooves there baby.

Kashmir · 09-13-2008, 05:35 PM

I voted TURE

05jrock · 09-14-2008, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toneguy86

Hip hop is not all gansta rap and there are some amazing artists who happen to fall into the rap/hip hop genre. Check out Michael Franti and Spearhead or The Fugis. Great grooves, etc. and, especially with Spearhead and a few other bands like that, lots of good guitar. Mark

Well the only cd I have that coes close to rap is The album Ice T made,bodycount.Public enemy and anthrax rocked.I just like to appreciate a band that plays instruments,what ever type of music it is,rather than just talks about how badass they are like someone like 50cent.

overdriver · 09-15-2008, 02:35 AM

Ya close your mind ya stop growing IMO.

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st.bede V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fresno Ca Posts: 1,552 Thanks: 16 Thanked 8 Times in 2 Posts	keeping on open mind..... I just post this on another thread: "I have to admit that there are a few that I do not really dig but, IMHO...I can and have learned something from everyone....I say just listen, it really can not hurt your playing to always bring respect and humilty with you...once again, just my thoughts" do you think this is true or have the new age people invaded my mind? __________________ Peace: is not the lack of dischord but an active process that transforms the present dischord into harmony through reverence "to criticize without vision is to be complicitious with dominance" Carolyn Casey "Go easy and, if you can't go easy, go as easy as you can" Jennifer Stone.... (from KPFA Cover to Cover) for me ORANGE IS THE CHANGE thank you 5F6-A

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st.bede V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fresno Ca Posts: 1,552 Thanks: 16 Thanked 8 Times in 2 Posts	Re: keeping on open mind..... who voted true with me? of course if you want to remine anonymous, that is your call. I respect you lol __________________ Peace: is not the lack of dischord but an active process that transforms the present dischord into harmony through reverence "to criticize without vision is to be complicitious with dominance" Carolyn Casey "Go easy and, if you can't go easy, go as easy as you can" Jennifer Stone.... (from KPFA Cover to Cover) for me ORANGE IS THE CHANGE thank you 5F6-A

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09-06-2008, 12:31 AM	#5 (permalink)
st.bede V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fresno Ca Posts: 1,552 Thanks: 16 Thanked 8 Times in 2 Posts	Re: keeping on open mind..... I wonder if anyone will disagree?....I should of taken the names of those poor bastards that got slamed in the thread that started this whole poll idea. __________________ Peace: is not the lack of dischord but an active process that transforms the present dischord into harmony through reverence "to criticize without vision is to be complicitious with dominance" Carolyn Casey "Go easy and, if you can't go easy, go as easy as you can" Jennifer Stone.... (from KPFA Cover to Cover) for me ORANGE IS THE CHANGE thank you 5F6-A

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LongBeach V.I.P. Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Long Beach Ca. Posts: 2,765 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: keeping on open mind..... Yes, I voted true. It is true, you can learn something new everyday. But, you can also learn of bunch of shit from "some" new & old artists. pick and choose, it's a free country. And, opinions are just that, opinions.

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AXE V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: (.Y.) Posts: 1,801 Thanks: 27 Thanked 13 Times in 5 Posts	Re: keeping on open mind..... I'm all about the ture thing . Country, Thrash, Nu Crap, if you listen there always something in there. __________________ *The Whole Pickguard Thing Keeps Me Awake Nights*

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NeubyWanKaneuby Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Nebraska Posts: 169 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: keeping on open mind..... Mostly true... also depends on what your definition of 'musician' is... __________________ http://www.myspace.com/neubywankaneubyband http://www.soundclick.com/neubywankaneuby

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River Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Crestone, Colorado, USA Posts: 2,304 Thanks: 22 Thanked 12 Times in 2 Posts	Re: keeping on open mind..... I voted "new age people have invaded your mind", not because I don't agree with your premise, but because there are some folks who just can't reach me. __________________ Light a candle for all children who have died. Dec. 14, 2008, 7-8PM around the globe.

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monroe Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 532 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: keeping on open mind..... I voted "ture" BTW, what's the past tense of "ture"? __________________ Proud user of: Gibson Guitars, Fender Guitars and Amps, Fargen Amplification WCR Pickups, Jason Lollar Pickups, Weber VST Speakers

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River Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Crestone, Colorado, USA Posts: 2,304 Thanks: 22 Thanked 12 Times in 2 Posts	Re: keeping on open mind..... Seriously, though, I'd vote "true" based only on the poll questions, but I read the verbiage too, which means I'd have to be able to learn anything from everything, and sorry, I just can't say that. There's some stuff I just can't even listen to, much less learn from. __________________ Light a candle for all children who have died. Dec. 14, 2008, 7-8PM around the globe.

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JasonC Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,782 Thanks: 23 Thanked 3 Times in 1 Post	Re: keeping on open mind..... Sure, I like a wide range of music. A lot of it really does have to appeal to me in some way though, even in the beginning. I'll listen to anything once, but if it just sounds terrible to me I probably won't purposely torture myself again. I think if you're looking to cultivate some fans for your music, you need to keep that in mind... some sort of pop sensibility, however minute, can go a long way. If you're just completely and totally out there, you probably won't gain too many fans... without feeding them tons of mushrooms first.

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05jrock Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: wellington,nz Posts: 885 Thanks: 12 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: keeping on open mind..... True.I love rock/metal music but one of the first tunes I learned to play was dueling banjos.Its good to keep an open mind I think,except for rap music.lol

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armann Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Iceland Posts: 643 Thanks: 3 Thanked 6 Times in 2 Posts	Re: keeping on open mind..... "new age people invaded my mind" Sounds about right. __________________ ... you're not going to live forever ... ... I'm not stupid Lucious, no one lives forever, no one ... but with advances in modern science ... and my high level income ... I mean like crazy think I can't live to be 245, maybe 300 ...

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