KISS Fans?? - Page 9

Lowdown · 11-27-2011, 11:34 PM

That's basically what I said.
But Ace's has been bored out so much,there are no channels and it's quite a botched job anyways.

JimmyAce2006 · 11-27-2011, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lowdown

That's basically what I said.
But Ace's has been bored out so much,there are no channels and it's quite a borched job anyways.

Not to mention the fact that it was his first smoker; there is still smoke residue in the neck pickup cavity.

80's Rocker · 11-28-2011, 07:20 PM

Peter Criss Smashing His Drum Kit - YouTube

Last show of the last tour of the original KISS!

Trouble_Walkin · 11-30-2011, 05:46 AM

At a time when replicas are being rolled out, with a very good chance one will be the tobacco; the question as to whether that beast was bound at the headstock or not - would appear to be rather relevant to me ...

Perhaps accuracy may not be a desired component of these re-creations... ? ... but stopping short of the double cut mod would probably be a good idea

JimmyAce2006 · 11-30-2011, 08:27 AM

Why do you think there is a very good chance the tobacco guitar will be done? I am not so sure about that. For one, I think that depending on how the Budokan sells, there might be a chance of doing another Ace guitar in a year or so. With that said, Gibson is probably more likely to do one that they have access to. Yes, they could get access to the first tobacco LP in its current form. But the only purpose would be to take a look at the heel and maybe the neck profile since everything else is so different on the guitar. I think they would be more likely to do a black custom or the Frehley 59 or even the blue burst silver sparkle. I do believe that the guy they borrowed the Budokan from also has one of Ace's black customs and I know he has the blue burst guitar. They probably have access to the 59 via Ace's friend who owns it - Ray Romano. Personally, I would like to see them do the 59 & get Ace into the historic reissues. But I would also like to see a tobacco Deluxe; and make it smoke!

Tenacious T · 11-30-2011, 10:21 AM

I'd love to have an Ace model guitar. I missed the first go-around & even if they come out with another, the Gibson price tag will most likely be outrageous...at least for me.

My only hope is for an Epiphone version....& I absolutely love the blue sparkle guitar.

Anyhoo...

SixAngryStrings · 11-30-2011, 01:07 PM

Just watched a pretty interesting video on netflix of Gene and Paul crashing a KISS convention in Detroit to reclaim some stolen costumes and stuff... Been listening to Creatures of the night and Lick it up... Rockin' out!

finnflash · 11-30-2011, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SixAngryStrings

Just watched a pretty interesting video on netflix of Gene and Paul crashing a KISS convention in Detroit to reclaim some stolen costumes and stuff... Been listening to Creatures of the night and Lick it up... Rockin' out!

whats the name of the video on netflix??

SixAngryStrings · 11-30-2011, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by finnflash

whats the name of the video on netflix??

KISS: Krazy Killer... I think it was like a bootleg, not very good quality.. But still kinda cool.

Trouble_Walkin · 11-30-2011, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JimmyAce2006

Why do you think there is a very good chance the tobacco guitar will be done? ...

... well because it is a guitar most associated with Ace in the earlier Kiss years and spans a number of years - it even became the first smoker; with the Cherry most associated with the later phase of Kiss - which it appears they are definitely remaking.

To my mind the aforementioned are the quintessential ace guitars. I guess that would be my reasoning

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Originally Posted by JimmyAce2006

Wow, lots of purse swinging in this thread. Interesting that we would all get so excited about some peak-a-boo mod that Ace made.

Now, has anyone seen my purse ... lol.

Trouble_Walkin · 11-30-2011, 03:20 PM

.. I suppose the relevance of the bound or not bound headstock is as relevant to me (as a 35 year diehard Ace/Kiss fan) - as any question about the construction of one of Ace's guitars ... including were the middle pups stuck on/ routed in/ wired up etc. on his various guitars. Which ones smoked ... how did he do it etc.

These are questions we as diehard Ace/Kiss fans want to know .. if it doesn't interest a small minority, why wouldn't they spend their time on topics that did interest them

.

I for one would like to know the details behind the binding on the #1 Tobacco headstock. Who's with me ... ?

JimmyAce2006 · 11-30-2011, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Trouble_Walkin

with the Cherry most associated with the later phase of Kiss - which it appears they are definitely remaking.

As LouieTM posted in another thread, Gibson Custom posted this on FB.

Lowdown · 11-30-2011, 05:11 PM

I agree with everything TroubleWalking has said.
It interests us as Ace fans,which is who these guitars are aimed at.
If you have your head planted too far up your bum that you can't see that…you're in the wrong place,sunshine

Also re. that pic: good to see they have finally got the authentic pearl Grover's right.
Hope these will be re-introduced.
I now need to scope out another source,no thanx to the disappointing time wasting games of a certain someone

deepblue · 11-30-2011, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lowdown

I agree with everything TroubleWalking has said.
It interests us as Ace fans,which is who these guitars are aimed at.
If you have your head planted too far up your bum that you can't see that…you're in the wrong place,sunshine

Also re. that pic: good to see they have finally got the authentic pearl Grover's right.
Hope these will be re-introduced.
I now need to scope out another source,no thanx to the disappointing time wasting games of a certain someone

I agree. Most guys don't realize the influence Frehley had on guitarists.
Not the greatest chops in the world, but man he looked cool!
I'd love one of his guitars!!

jco.1 · 11-30-2011, 05:50 PM

What's up with the location of the strap button on the Customs above? It's almost on the neck; is that a second hole right above the relocated button?

Jimmy, thoughts?

Lowdown · 11-30-2011, 06:02 PM

If you read through jc,you'll discover Ace moved the strap button to the heel and also had the body contoured as well.
Plenty of pics and info on it. I know it's getting pretty confusing with all the other idiosyncracies and things that have been done to that guitar.

Once you start digging though,you won't be able to stop

jco.1 · 11-30-2011, 06:07 PM

I'm talking about the new production Budokan guitars, not the tobaccoburst. I'm pretty sure I'm up to speed on that one.

Lowdown · 11-30-2011, 07:16 PM

Ah! Gotcha. Yeah,I see wotcha mean.
Maybe it's a rocket launcher

Deguello · 11-30-2011, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JimmyAce2006

... They probably have access to the 59 via Ace's friend who owns it - Ray Romano........

Sorry but Ray Romano was a really bad TV actor, Al Romano owns the burst

GUITARINGS - FRET12 :: Interviews :: Al Romano Part 1 - YouTube

80's Rocker · 11-30-2011, 07:58 PM

I want one of those new Ace guitars sooo bad! Im not going to be able to get one tho >.<

ACELUEK · 11-30-2011, 08:45 PM

Man these are great..

KISS - "God Of Thunder" (Lost Alive II) - YouTube

KISS - "Makin' Love" (Lost Alive II) - YouTube

KISS - "Take Me" (Lost Alive II) - YouTube

SixAngryStrings · 11-30-2011, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jco.1

What's up with the location of the strap button on the Customs above? It's almost on the neck; is that a second hole right above the relocated button?

Jimmy, thoughts?

Actually seems pretty smart... Wonder if that reduces the LP's tendency to want to fall off of the strap???

ACELUEK · 11-30-2011, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 80's Rocker

I want one of those new Ace guitars sooo bad! Im not going to be able to get one tho >.<

I'm warning my wife I might need to take a loan out in 2012.

Trouble_Walkin · 12-01-2011, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ACELUEK

I'm warning my wife I might need to take a loan out in 2012.

Now that's what I'm talkin about

!.

And by the way she could always borrow my ...

... if she needs it

.

Trouble_Walkin · 12-01-2011, 03:42 AM

These ones will be a bit cheaper though - so people can still afford the star stickers for the back - ... oh and the FBI logo

:

Thanks for your input Lowy - we must both be Aussies

. Do we see things more clearly from upside down??? - lol - and cheers to you as well D/blue, and Tenacious !

Lowdown · 12-01-2011, 05:00 AM

No wukkas,TW

Lowdown · 12-01-2011, 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deguello

Sorry but Ray Romano was a really bad TV actor, Al Romano owns the burst

Trouble_Walkin · 12-01-2011, 06:14 PM

Now that the Fun-Police seem to have gone elsewhere

!!!!! - (to no doubt cork sniff some historics and value their own self-importance - lol) ...

Here's some "Kiss Fans ??" related gear - for real Kiss/Ace fans:

You Tube

Ace is firing on all 8 cylinders here - check the solo & outro! (1:19; then 1:59).

I posted this on thumpas thread a while ago - lovin it.

ACELUEK · 12-01-2011, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trouble_Walkin

These ones will be a bit cheaper though - so people can still afford the star stickers for the back - ... oh and the FBI logo

:

Thanks for your input Lowy - we must both be Aussies

. Do we see things more clearly from upside down??? - lol - and cheers to you as well D/blue, and Tenacious !

Good news... My wife (of 27 years) just said "So what is that going to cost us?"... Looking good.

jco.1 · 12-01-2011, 06:41 PM

Looking forward to those videos.

11-27-2011, 11:34 PM	#241 (permalink)
Lowdown Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 158 Thanked 44 Times in 14 Posts	Re: KISS Fans?? That's basically what I said. But Ace's has been bored out so much,there are no channels and it's quite a botched job anyways. Trouble_Walkin likes this. Last edited by Lowdown; 11-28-2011 at 01:28 AM.

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Trouble_Walkin Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Downunder (Aussie) Posts: 182 Thanks: 7 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: KISS Fans?? At a time when replicas are being rolled out, with a very good chance one will be the tobacco; the question as to whether that beast was bound at the headstock or not - would appear to be rather relevant to me ... Perhaps accuracy may not be a desired component of these re-creations... ? ... but stopping short of the double cut mod would probably be a good idea Lowdown likes this. __________________

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JimmyAce2006 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 8,936 Thanks: 105 Thanked 435 Times in 88 Posts	Re: KISS Fans?? Why do you think there is a very good chance the tobacco guitar will be done? I am not so sure about that. For one, I think that depending on how the Budokan sells, there might be a chance of doing another Ace guitar in a year or so. With that said, Gibson is probably more likely to do one that they have access to. Yes, they could get access to the first tobacco LP in its current form. But the only purpose would be to take a look at the heel and maybe the neck profile since everything else is so different on the guitar. I think they would be more likely to do a black custom or the Frehley 59 or even the blue burst silver sparkle. I do believe that the guy they borrowed the Budokan from also has one of Ace's black customs and I know he has the blue burst guitar. They probably have access to the 59 via Ace's friend who owns it - Ray Romano. Personally, I would like to see them do the 59 & get Ace into the historic reissues. But I would also like to see a tobacco Deluxe; and make it smoke! __________________ My guitars: http://www.historiclespauls.com/gear...r=JimmyAce2006 My Metacafe channel: http://www.metacafe.com/channels/jimmyace2006/ My Youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/JohnnyAce07

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11-30-2011, 03:20 PM	#251 (permalink)
Trouble_Walkin Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Downunder (Aussie) Posts: 182 Thanks: 7 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: KISS Fans?? .. I suppose the relevance of the bound or not bound headstock is as relevant to me (as a 35 year diehard Ace/Kiss fan) - as any question about the construction of one of Ace's guitars ... including were the middle pups stuck on/ routed in/ wired up etc. on his various guitars. Which ones smoked ... how did he do it etc. These are questions we as diehard Ace/Kiss fans want to know .. if it doesn't interest a small minority, why wouldn't they spend their time on topics that did interest them . I for one would like to know the details behind the binding on the #1 Tobacco headstock. Who's with me ... ? Tenacious T, deepblue, Lowdown and 1 others like this. __________________

11-30-2011, 05:11 PM	#253 (permalink)
Lowdown Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 158 Thanked 44 Times in 14 Posts	Re: KISS Fans?? I agree with everything TroubleWalking has said. It interests us as Ace fans,which is who these guitars are aimed at. If you have your head planted too far up your bum that you can't see that…you're in the wrong place,sunshine Also re. that pic: good to see they have finally got the authentic pearl Grover's right. Hope these will be re-introduced. I now need to scope out another source,no thanx to the disappointing time wasting games of a certain someone Trouble_Walkin likes this.

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jco.1 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: MA, USA Posts: 1,464 Thanks: 50 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: KISS Fans?? What's up with the location of the strap button on the Customs above? It's almost on the neck; is that a second hole right above the relocated button? Jimmy, thoughts?

11-30-2011, 06:02 PM	#256 (permalink)
Lowdown Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 158 Thanked 44 Times in 14 Posts	Re: KISS Fans?? If you read through jc,you'll discover Ace moved the strap button to the heel and also had the body contoured as well. Plenty of pics and info on it. I know it's getting pretty confusing with all the other idiosyncracies and things that have been done to that guitar. Once you start digging though,you won't be able to stop Trouble_Walkin likes this.

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jco.1 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: MA, USA Posts: 1,464 Thanks: 50 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: KISS Fans?? I'm talking about the new production Budokan guitars, not the tobaccoburst. I'm pretty sure I'm up to speed on that one.

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Lowdown Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 158 Thanked 44 Times in 14 Posts	Re: KISS Fans?? Ah! Gotcha. Yeah,I see wotcha mean. Maybe it's a rocket launcher deepblue and Trouble_Walkin like this.

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80's Rocker Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Area 69 Posts: 1,604 Thanks: 21 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: KISS Fans?? I want one of those new Ace guitars sooo bad! Im not going to be able to get one tho >.< Tenacious T, ACELUEK and SixAngryStrings like this.

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Trouble_Walkin Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Downunder (Aussie) Posts: 182 Thanks: 7 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: KISS Fans?? These ones will be a bit cheaper though - so people can still afford the star stickers for the back - ... oh and the FBI logo: Thanks for your input Lowy - we must both be Aussies. Do we see things more clearly from upside down??? - lol - and cheers to you as well D/blue, and Tenacious ! __________________ Last edited by Trouble_Walkin; 12-01-2011 at 05:13 PM.

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