Now Available " Over the Pond " M69 English Rings !!! - Page 3

BOBBO · 02-10-2009, 03:15 PM

Kim · 02-10-2009, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b-squared

Just an observation, but Bobbo has a thread in the Vintage section showing about 20-30 bursts, and I don't recall seeing one with a puckered ring...

BB

This is a understandable mistake. The pucker doesn't often show in photographs because it's subtle, but it's certainly there if you do a careful in-hand inspection.

I know my input doesn't always seem welcome on this forum, so I'd encourage anyone to ask Uncle Lou, Vic Depra, or any other burst expert who's actually owned original bursts or original rings. They will ALL tell you the same thing:

The pucker DOES appear on vintage original M69 rings.

The (correct) plastic contracted in the mold as it set, creating a little pucker. This shrinkage varied, but it's there to some degree in all vintage M69 rings. Sure, it can be completely sanded out of ANY set of rings, purchased from ANY manufacturer, if you don't mind the sides being slightly thinner than vintage-originals.

I sincerely appreciate how hard it is to gain hands-on experience with M69s, given originals now run $10K+ per set. But that's no excuse for misinformation being spread as fact.

Hopefully my 30-years of buying, selling and owning real M69 rings counts for something, and will help dispel some of the misinformation about ORIGINAL M69 rings. A little pucker goes a long way to being vintage correct. If that's important to you.

BOBBO · 02-10-2009, 04:38 PM

decoy205 · 02-10-2009, 05:05 PM

What is this pucker of which you speak???

haha I'm not sure what you guys are talking about all I know is these OTP's are fine looking rings.

***FLICKOFLASH*** · 02-10-2009, 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kim

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I know my input doesn't always seem welcome on this forum,.

Why you posting in a competitors thread

***b-squared*** · 02-10-2009, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kim

This is a understandable mistake. The pucker doesn't often show in photographs because it's subtle, but it's certainly there if you do a careful in-hand inspection.

*snip*

The pucker DOES appear on vintage original M69 rings.

*Snip*

I look forward to the pictures you will provide proving your point. As you are more an expert than I, I'm sure you have lots of examples.

Thanks!

BB

BOBBO · 02-10-2009, 05:57 PM

Mike60 · 02-10-2009, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BOBBO

is this the pucker you guys are talking about?...

BOBBO · 02-10-2009, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike60

is this the pucker you guys are talking about?...

Those marks on the bottom are the mold marks !!! Supposed to be there ...

Mike60 · 02-10-2009, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BOBBO

Those marks on the bottom are the mold marks !!! Supposed to be there ...

I know that.I do have a set of M69 rings and these English rings are bang on.

***b-squared*** · 02-10-2009, 06:58 PM

Thanks, Mike.

BB

BOBBO · 02-10-2009, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike60

I know that.I do have a set of M69 rings and these English rings are bang on.

I knew , That you know Mike ... Was for anyone who didn't !

Mike60 · 02-10-2009, 07:13 PM

OK...

I'll go on record and state that short of buying an original set of rings,these are,bar none,IMO,THE best you can obtain today...

BOBBO · 02-14-2009, 08:28 AM

This latest batch of OTP rings has a nice variety of different levels of aging for people to choose from !!! I now offer the rings in 4 levels of aging ... Mint , Light , Medium or Heavy !!! Or as me and my Brit buddy jokingly refer to them ... Raw , Rare , Medium rare & Well done !!!

This is a set of Medium aged OTP's ...

Nugget · 02-16-2009, 05:40 PM

You need to be a bit careful about your choice of words Bobbo or you're going to get some unwanted attention. Mentioning the word 'pucker' and 'ring' in the same sentence......nuff said.

BOBBO · 02-16-2009, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nugget

You need to be a bit careful about your choice of words Bobbo or you're going to get some unwanted attention. Mentioning the word 'pucker' and 'ring' in the same sentence......nuff said.

Last time I used the words pucker and rings in the same sentence ... I ended up MARRIED !!!

SKATTERBRANE · 02-16-2009, 05:53 PM

I have seen dimples in original rings and in repro rings.

BOBBO · 02-16-2009, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norbe

I have seen dimples in original rings and in repro rings.

The only dimples I see are on that girl in your avatars tushy !!!

SKATTERBRANE · 02-16-2009, 10:03 PM

I am not saying that they SHOULD have dimples, not am I saying they ALL have dimples. Some have dimples. It is very possible that if enough sets pass through your hands, some of your will too.

Nugget · 02-17-2009, 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BOBBO

Last time I used the words pucker and rings in the same sentence ... I ended up MARRIED !!!

English slang : a ring or ringpiece is your butt hole !

BOBBO · 02-19-2009, 06:57 PM

BOBBO · 02-19-2009, 07:53 PM

BOBBO · 02-21-2009, 10:29 AM

A set of OTP PAF's surrounded by a set of OTP rings !!!

Mike60 · 02-21-2009, 10:38 AM

If anyone has any doubt as to how good these rings really are...this pic was taken in natural light...

BTW...the pickguard is not a reissue or repro...

BOBBO · 02-22-2009, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike60

If anyone has any doubt as to how good these rings really are...this pic was taken in natural light...

BTW...the pickguard is not a reissue or repro...

Wow ... Talk about a stunner Mike !!! NOW.. If it didn't have those reflectors on it , I'd take her off your hands !!!

Mike60 · 02-22-2009, 12:42 PM

I could easily switch them out for you,if you like, and also put some single rings on it.

But you probably wouldn't what that scrawny necked,dinged,checked and over modified mutt anyways...

BOBBO · 02-22-2009, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike60

I could easily switch them out for you,if you like, and also put some single rings on it.

But you probably wouldn't what that scrawny necked,dinged,checked and over modified mutt anyways...

I love overmodified mutt's !!! ... I wouldn't change a thing Mike !!!

BOBBO · 02-24-2009, 08:23 PM

cain · 02-25-2009, 01:23 PM

Vintage M-69 Puckering versus Modern Day OTP Rings

BOBBO · 02-25-2009, 05:39 PM

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