Now Available " Over the Pond " M69 English Rings !!! - Page 2

BOBBO · 01-16-2009, 08:36 AM

A shipment of OTP rings has just arrived !!! Some closeups to show their awsome detail ...

captain tightpants · 01-16-2009, 08:41 AM

I work for a plastics injection molding company. I tried to tell them there was good business in making this kind of stuff, the powers that be just didn't get it. Pisses me off every time I see this stuff!! I gotta buy my own press!!!

BOBBO · 01-16-2009, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by captain tightpants

I work for a plastics injection molding company. I tried to tell them there was good business in making this kind of stuff, the powers that be just didn't get it. Pisses me off every time I see this stuff!! I gotta buy my own press!!!

It's quite a process to get these made !!! Took over 2 years to get it done !!! I hear that it's not easy working with the particular type of material these are made from either !!!

captain tightpants · 01-16-2009, 09:20 AM

I work as a set-up tech, which means I do the mold-changes and get the next job up and running for production. You give me a good press, a quality mold to work with, and good material, I can do it. ABS plastic is one of the easiest to work with. Granted, modern ABS's are way better than the 50's stuff, but still. We do a lot of work for medical companies, believe me, you have to be exact with those parts. Pickup rings would be an absolute joy in comparison.

The hard part would be getting the mold cut just right, I.E. getting the ejector pin marks in all the right spots, getting the markings just right. It's irritating, because the owner of the company could hand-tool a mold for this with his eyes closed, but the man is a skin flint. No way would he undertake something like this.

The aging process would be damned good business for our assembly department, too.

BOBBO · 01-16-2009, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by captain tightpants

I work as a set-up tech, which means I do the mold-changes and get the next job up and running for production. You give me a good press, a quality mold to work with, and good material, I can do it. ABS plastic is one of the easiest to work with. Granted, modern ABS's are way better than the 50's stuff, but still. We do a lot of work for medical companies, believe me, you have to be exact with those parts. Pickup rings would be an absolute joy in comparison.

The hard part would be getting the mold cut just right, I.E. getting the ejector pin marks in all the right spots, getting the markings just right. It's irritating, because the owner of the company could hand-tool a mold for this with his eyes closed, but the man is a skin flint. No way would he undertake something like this.

The aging process would be damned good business for our assembly department, too.

I believe the material they are made of is celloid acetate butrate ( no idea if i spelled that right ) Which I heard is not made anymore or at least very hard to obtain and work with due to some of it's properties !!!

BOBBO · 01-16-2009, 05:27 PM

captain tightpants · 01-17-2009, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BOBBO

I believe the material they are made of is celloid acetate butrate ( no idea if i spelled that right ) Which I heard is not made anymore or at least very hard to obtain and work with due to some of it's properties !!!

It's not rocket science. Like I said, give me a good press and a good mold, it can be done. The process can be adjusted to accomodate any material. We could easily have a 2-tierd sales approach. A full vintage ring made of the CAB material, and a less expensive ABS ring from the same mold. It would have all the right markings, just be made of a better modern material. We do this kind of thing all the time.

Next week we are sampling new materials for an old powder measure hopper used for bullet reloading, we usually make it out of a material called San Tyrell. The mold is over 30 years old, and we are trying new material to compensate for the mold's deterioration. The customer doesn't want to pay to have the mold refurbished.

BOBBO · 01-19-2009, 08:16 AM

Now in stock !!!

BOBBO · 01-21-2009, 08:52 AM

BOBBO · 01-25-2009, 09:26 PM

Rings are still in stock , But going fast !!!

BOBBO · 01-27-2009, 09:36 AM

BOBBO · 01-27-2009, 02:32 PM

BOBBO · 01-28-2009, 05:17 PM

Texas07R8 · 01-28-2009, 07:59 PM

Bobbo, can you post a pic of the OTP rings next to a set of Historics and show top and bottom views side by side?

Mike60 · 01-28-2009, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Texas07R8

Bobbo, can you post a pic of the OTP rings next to a set of Historics and show top and bottom views side by side?

...heh,just get a set for the Texasburst..

BOBBO · 01-28-2009, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Texas07R8

Bobbo, can you post a pic of the OTP rings next to a set of Historics and show top and bottom views side by side?

I dont have Historic rings anymore !!! I do have a picture comparing them to the DMC rings !!!

The OTP rings are on the guitar and the DMC are not .. As you can see the DMC is too pink ( Historic rings are even pinker ) Not to mention the DMC are only aged a bit on the tops on the backside they look brand new !!!

decoy205 · 01-30-2009, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Texas07R8

Bobbo, can you post a pic of the OTP rings next to a set of Historics and show top and bottom views side by side?

I'll have a comparison pic soon...

BOBBO · 01-31-2009, 06:46 PM

decoy205 · 01-31-2009, 09:19 PM

OK Thanks to the OTP MLP Clown here are my OTP Rings!

I did some comparison shots next to the stock historic rings.

the pinky ones are the historics, the OTP's are more bone color.

Vintage Clone Installed, OTP on top of the strings, Stock on the pickguard:

The OTP match the VC pickguard best but they are different enough like the real ones. So they will look great together!

BOBBO · 02-01-2009, 10:46 AM

Have you mounted the OTP's yet ?

BOBBO · 02-01-2009, 11:27 AM

Do OTP rings crack ???

Heck no !!!

decoy205 · 02-01-2009, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BOBBO

Have you mounted the OTP's yet ?

Nope savin' em for another guitar!

Mike60 · 02-04-2009, 06:04 PM

yesterday a package from the UK came in...

...BUT,today some cool old looking rings arrived in Canada ...

Great customer service Bob...

BOBBO · 02-06-2009, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Great customer service Bob...

Glad you dig the rings Mike !!! Now let's see those M69's on that spankin R0 of yours !!! Ooooh look how pink those rings on there now are !!!!

Mike60 · 02-06-2009, 09:03 PM

...over the ocean rings and the new shedzeppelins...

BOBBO · 02-09-2009, 03:56 PM

A new batch of OTP rings just flew in from Over the Pond !!! Get them while they last !!!

BOBBO · 02-09-2009, 08:11 PM

Some members who were asking about OTP rings keep voicing the same concern ( Do the OTP rings have puckering like some of those other brands ??? ) Absolutely NOT !!! The quality control is superb on these as is the aging !!! I am posting a few MACRO shots to show some of the inside detail of the rings and the side walls of the ring where people fear the plastic can pucker .... OTP is Pucker Free

Kim · 02-09-2009, 10:28 PM

I don't know why all the concern anyway.

The pucker can clearly be seen on the originals!

I have bought and sold many sets of Original M69 Rings as well as have owned several 50's Les Pauls with original M69 rings.

I have been selling the English rings for over three years and the pucker varies
from set to set as it did on Vintage originals.

If anyone else here has or has owned original M69 rings please chime in.

***b-squared*** · 02-10-2009, 11:32 AM

Just an observation, but Bobbo has a thread in the Vintage section showing about 20-30 bursts, and I don't recall seeing one with a puckered ring...

BB

***FLICKOFLASH*** · 02-10-2009, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b-squared

Just an observation, but Bobbo has a thread in the Vintage section showing about 20-30 bursts, and I don't recall seeing one with a puckered ring...

BB

me either

I also have the original OTPG & they are flawless

The REAL Vintage Gibson M69 Ring Thread !!!

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captain tightpants V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Orland CA Posts: 5,778 Thanks: 82 Thanked 17 Times in 6 Posts Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Re: Now Available " Over the Pond " M69 English Rings !!! I work for a plastics injection molding company. I tried to tell them there was good business in making this kind of stuff, the powers that be just didn't get it. Pisses me off every time I see this stuff!! I gotta buy my own press!!! __________________

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captain tightpants V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Orland CA Posts: 5,778 Thanks: 82 Thanked 17 Times in 6 Posts Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Re: Now Available " Over the Pond " M69 English Rings !!! I work as a set-up tech, which means I do the mold-changes and get the next job up and running for production. You give me a good press, a quality mold to work with, and good material, I can do it. ABS plastic is one of the easiest to work with. Granted, modern ABS's are way better than the 50's stuff, but still. We do a lot of work for medical companies, believe me, you have to be exact with those parts. Pickup rings would be an absolute joy in comparison. The hard part would be getting the mold cut just right, I.E. getting the ejector pin marks in all the right spots, getting the markings just right. It's irritating, because the owner of the company could hand-tool a mold for this with his eyes closed, but the man is a skin flint. No way would he undertake something like this. The aging process would be damned good business for our assembly department, too. __________________

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decoy205 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Brooklyn NY Posts: 3,811 Thanks: 123 Thanked 52 Times in 17 Posts Feedback Score: 11 reviews	Re: Now Available " Over the Pond " M69 English Rings !!! OK Thanks to the OTP MLP Clown here are my OTP Rings! I did some comparison shots next to the stock historic rings. the pinky ones are the historics, the OTP's are more bone color. Vintage Clone Installed, OTP on top of the strings, Stock on the pickguard: The OTP match the VC pickguard best but they are different enough like the real ones. So they will look great together! __________________

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BOBBO Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: N.J. Posts: 20,100 Thanks: 271 Thanked 521 Times in 96 Posts Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Re: Now Available " Over the Pond " M69 English Rings !!! Some members who were asking about OTP rings keep voicing the same concern ( Do the OTP rings have puckering like some of those other brands ??? ) Absolutely NOT !!! The quality control is superb on these as is the aging !!! I am posting a few MACRO shots to show some of the inside detail of the rings and the side walls of the ring where people fear the plastic can pucker .... OTP is Pucker Free

02-09-2009, 10:28 PM	#58 (permalink)
Kim Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 179 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Retrospec-guitar I don't know why all the concern anyway. The pucker can clearly be seen on the originals! I have bought and sold many sets of Original M69 Rings as well as have owned several 50's Les Pauls with original M69 rings. I have been selling the English rings for over three years and the pucker varies from set to set as it did on Vintage originals. If anyone else here has or has owned original M69 rings please chime in. __________________

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