My 5 Conversions

thefishingline · 01-29-2012, 03:00 PM

Just went through all the past receipts and bills for the conversions work, parts, cost of the guitar etc etc...SCARY!! I do have to start selling some of these so be on the lookout in the classifieds this week!

52/57 Mirabella:
Original: Tuners, truss rod cover, Brazilian fingerboard, inlays, switch, switch tip, poker chip, knobs, jack & jack plate, harness & pots, all back plastic, hardware, screws etc. ABR-1 bridge, stop bar, PAF’s, strap buttons, pickguard, bridge, studs, thumb wheels,
Not Original: Refin top and back, refret, PUP rings (Over the Pond), refret

52/58’ Mueller:
Original: Original 50’s finish tuners, truss rod cover, Brazilian fingerboard, inlays, knobs, jack plate, harness & pots are 52’ as well, switch & switch tip, all back plastic, hardware, screws etc & original ABR-1 bridge (in case) & awesome sounding PAF’s .
Not Original: Strap buttons, PUP rings (Over the Pond), refret by Mueller with 59’ wire, pickguard (Mueller Special), historic bridge on guitar, studs, thumb wheels, poker chip.

52/59 Gibson Burst:
Original: Original 59’ burst top finish, 52’ back finish, back plastic, tuners, truss rod cover, Brazilian fingerboard, inlays, knobs, jack plate, harness, pots, switch & switch tip, original ABR-1 bridge, PAF’s, strap buttons studs, thumb wheels, pickguard, poker chip.
Not Original: PUP rings (Over the Pond), stop bar (Montreuex)

52/59 Mirabella Burst:
Original: Everything is 59’ except finish & PUP rings

54/59 Burst:
Original: Tuners, truss rod cover, Brazilian fingerboard, inlays, knobs, jack plate, harness, pots, harness, switch, switch ring, switch nut & switch tip, all wiring, pots & caps Harness original ABR-1 bridge, PAF’s, strap buttons, studs, thumb wheels, pickguard, poker chip.
Not Original: Burst refin, PUP rings (Over the Pond), stop bar (Montreuex),

Kalamazuu · 01-29-2012, 03:13 PM

Let's see a family photo!

thefishingline · 01-29-2012, 03:34 PM

I have to see which ones I am selling...the killer ones of course...the 54' (see conversion almost ready thread) I have not gotten back yet...have to play the shi t out of it before I decide...

I'll post pics with the For Sale thread in the classifieds...

Oranjeaap · 01-29-2012, 04:14 PM

Well we want pics so add them to this thread when you get the chance, or else there was little use for starting this thread

thefishingline · 01-29-2012, 04:26 PM

is that so??

Oranjeaap · 01-29-2012, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thefishingline

is that so??

* in my opinion

RAG7890 · 01-29-2012, 04:36 PM

Hi TFL, just out of interest why did you comment on BOG's Thread that your Luthier would not do a conversion on a '52 but you have 5 listed here?

I am not having a shot at you, just want to find out what the background is; i.e. were all of these guitars damaged in some way & therefore became candidates for a conversion etc.?

HeeBGB · 01-29-2012, 04:39 PM

I agree with OJ!

boogieongtr · 01-29-2012, 04:53 PM

[QUOTE=thefishingline;3469602] I do have to start selling some of these so be on the lookout in the classifieds this week!

What do you mean be on the lookout? They have been for sale on Gbase for a couple years and probably still at 2008 prices.

52/57 Mirabella:
1957 Gibson Les Paul Standard > Guitars : Electric Solid Body - RJ Guitars | Gbase.com

52/58’ Mueller:
1958 Gibson Les Paul Standard Goldtop > Guitars : Electric Solid Body - RJ Guitars | Gbase.com

52/59 Gibson Burst:
1952 Gibson Les Paul Standard Sunburst > Guitars : Electric Solid Body - RJ Guitars | Gbase.com

52/59 Mirabella Burst:
1959 Gibson LES PAUL Burst > Guitars : Electric Solid Body - RJ Guitars | Gbase.com

thefishingline · 01-29-2012, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RAG7890

Hi TFL, just out of interest why did you comment on BOG's Thread that your Luthier would not do a conversion on a '52 but you have 5 listed here?

I am not having a shot at you, just want to find out what the background is; i.e. were all of these guitars damaged in some way & therefore became candidates for a conversion etc.?

I hit the quote buttomn so I could answer your quesiton...took 55 seconds for the page to load..this site has been fast or slow for weeks now...to answer your queston they all had issues

1. 52/57 I bought as is with the exception of adding PAF's and there was not enough original finish on it for me to salvage to we refinned it.

2. The mueller I bought as is and added PAF's and a 50's bridge.

3. the 52/50 Gibson Burst had P90's a horrible neck angle and a whacky abbreviated bridge of some sort that made the guitar nearly impossible to play and unenjoyable.

4. The 53/59/ Mirabella Burst was a stripped down flamed out beauty with no paint on it at all...no parts no nothing I bought directly from Cris.

5. The 54/59 burst being done now was already converted by some hack with a horrible tobacco burst and he was repalcing all the 54' parts with 2009 Gibson parts so I bought the whole thing

thefishingline · 01-29-2012, 05:03 PM

[quote=boogieongtr;3469930]

Quote:

Originally Posted by thefishingline

I do have to start selling some of these so be on the lookout in the classifieds this week!

What do you mean be on the lookout? They have been for sale on Gbase for a couple years and probably still at 2008 prices.

52/57 Mirabella:
1957 Gibson Les Paul Standard > Guitars : Electric Solid Body - RJ Guitars | Gbase.com

52/58’ Mueller:
1958 Gibson Les Paul Standard Goldtop > Guitars : Electric Solid Body - RJ Guitars | Gbase.com

52/59 Gibson Burst:
1952 Gibson Les Paul Standard Sunburst > Guitars : Electric Solid Body - RJ Guitars | Gbase.com

52/59 Mirabella Burst:
1959 Gibson LES PAUL Burst > Guitars : Electric Solid Body - RJ Guitars | Gbase.com

wrong the 52' Gibson burst was added YESTERDAY! The Mirabella burst I upgraded pics a month or so back

Oranjeaap · 01-29-2012, 05:23 PM

Lovely guitars, thanks for the pics boogieongtr

RAG7890 · 01-29-2012, 05:29 PM

Thanks TFL, thought that might be the case.

I have seen these on Gbase numerous times. The CM 52/59 is a nice guitar & as I understand it Cris was one of the best in doing conversions. I have certainly found him to be quite helpful on other matters, nice bloke.

mapleflame · 01-29-2012, 05:59 PM

Rich how does this one sound after the PAF change and conversion. I remember the guitar sounded great with P90's
1952 Gibson Les Paul Standard Sunburst > Guitars : Electric Solid Body - RJ Guitars | Gbase.com

thefishingline · 01-29-2012, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapleflame

Rich how does this one sound after the PAF change and conversion. I remember the guitar sounded great with P90's
1952 Gibson Les Paul Standard Sunburst > Guitars : Electric Solid Body - RJ Guitars | Gbase.com

iT may be my best sounding guitar...very light..rings loud and true..fantastic piece of wood...feaking killer...I got VERY lucky wity al my PAF purchaes and guitars too and we hit it right wiht the right PAF's put in the right guitars...

I could let you pick any four of the five to buy and I would have no problem whatsoever with which ever one you left behind...

janalex · 01-30-2012, 03:48 PM

Im just curious. Could you tell which guitar is which in a blinded test? It sounds like all sound great but are they all that different from each other?

thefishingline · 01-30-2012, 04:12 PM

yes I could...I have had them long enough and every neck is different from the other and no two necks alike

some bridge PUPs are brighter than the other

pinefd · 01-30-2012, 05:05 PM

I love the '52/'57 Mirabella conversion...by far my favorite of the bunch!

Frank

dwagar · 01-30-2012, 11:44 PM

Too bad you have to sell some now, I'm just guessing but assume the market is down, as with everything.

Jean Christophe · 01-31-2012, 10:28 AM

Like Jim said most of the guitars have been for sell for years ....

dwa911 · 02-01-2012, 03:59 AM

PM with prices.

thefishingline · 02-01-2012, 10:05 AM

did we trade e mails already???

dwa911 · 02-01-2012, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thefishingline

did we trade e mails already???

Yep

thefishingline · 02-01-2012, 10:16 AM

PM sent

Jean Christophe · 02-01-2012, 03:37 PM

Is it an open forum ?

boogieongtr · 02-02-2012, 03:03 PM

That 52/59 Mirabella Burst is one of the best looking conversions I have ever seen.

Why can't I get lucky and find a top like that?

thefishingline · 02-02-2012, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boogieongtr

That 52/59 Mirabella Burst is one of the best looking conversions I have ever seen.

Why can't I get lucky and find a top like that?

That was Cris' personal stash he was saving for himself..Believe me it took me well over a year to get my hands on it and it was n't cheap that's for sure!

mapleflame · 02-02-2012, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boogieongtr

That 52/59 Mirabella Burst is one of the best looking conversions I have ever seen.

Why can't I get lucky and find a top like that?

Jim, Rich sent me tons of pics of this guitar when he first got it, it is just spectacular. It sounds great too.

libtech · 02-03-2012, 12:45 PM

Love the 52/57 looks deadly!

thefishingline · 02-03-2012, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by libtech

Love the 52/57 looks deadly!

It is...killer tone...light as a feather and a nice inbetween neck too! Small deposit will hold it for you

01-29-2012, 03:00 PM	#1 (permalink)
thefishingline Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Long Beach, NY Posts: 2,961 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 11 Posts Feedback Score: 2 reviews	My 5 Conversions Just went through all the past receipts and bills for the conversions work, parts, cost of the guitar etc etc...SCARY!! I do have to start selling some of these so be on the lookout in the classifieds this week! 52/57 Mirabella: Original: Tuners, truss rod cover, Brazilian fingerboard, inlays, switch, switch tip, poker chip, knobs, jack & jack plate, harness & pots, all back plastic, hardware, screws etc. ABR-1 bridge, stop bar, PAF’s, strap buttons, pickguard, bridge, studs, thumb wheels, Not Original: Refin top and back, refret, PUP rings (Over the Pond), refret 52/58’ Mueller: Original: Original 50’s finish tuners, truss rod cover, Brazilian fingerboard, inlays, knobs, jack plate, harness & pots are 52’ as well, switch & switch tip, all back plastic, hardware, screws etc & original ABR-1 bridge (in case) & awesome sounding PAF’s . Not Original: Strap buttons, PUP rings (Over the Pond), refret by Mueller with 59’ wire, pickguard (Mueller Special), historic bridge on guitar, studs, thumb wheels, poker chip. 52/59 Gibson Burst: Original: Original 59’ burst top finish, 52’ back finish, back plastic, tuners, truss rod cover, Brazilian fingerboard, inlays, knobs, jack plate, harness, pots, switch & switch tip, original ABR-1 bridge, PAF’s, strap buttons studs, thumb wheels, pickguard, poker chip. Not Original: PUP rings (Over the Pond), stop bar (Montreuex) 52/59 Mirabella Burst: Original: Everything is 59’ except finish & PUP rings 54/59 Burst: Original: Tuners, truss rod cover, Brazilian fingerboard, inlays, knobs, jack plate, harness, pots, harness, switch, switch ring, switch nut & switch tip, all wiring, pots & caps Harness original ABR-1 bridge, PAF’s, strap buttons, studs, thumb wheels, pickguard, poker chip. Not Original: Burst refin, PUP rings (Over the Pond), stop bar (Montreuex),

01-29-2012, 03:13 PM	#2 (permalink)
Kalamazuu Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 5,492 Thanks: 3 Thanked 14 Times in 5 Posts Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Re: My 5 Conversions Let's see a family photo!

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thefishingline Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Long Beach, NY Posts: 2,961 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 11 Posts Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Re: My 5 Conversions I have to see which ones I am selling...the killer ones of course...the 54' (see conversion almost ready thread) I have not gotten back yet...have to play the shi t out of it before I decide... I'll post pics with the For Sale thread in the classifieds...

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Oranjeaap Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 6,014 Thanks: 38 Thanked 78 Times in 20 Posts Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Re: My 5 Conversions Well we want pics so add them to this thread when you get the chance, or else there was little use for starting this thread HeeBGB and stephenwz968 like this. __________________

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RAG7890 Bartlett Retrospec Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Australlia Posts: 2,726 Thanks: 244 Thanked 32 Times in 5 Posts Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Re: My 5 Conversions Hi TFL, just out of interest why did you comment on BOG's Thread that your Luthier would not do a conversion on a '52 but you have 5 listed here? I am not having a shot at you, just want to find out what the background is; i.e. were all of these guitars damaged in some way & therefore became candidates for a conversion etc.?

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HeeBGB Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Joisey Posts: 118 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Re: My 5 Conversions I agree with OJ!

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boogieongtr Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 631 Thanks: 2 Thanked 92 Times in 13 Posts Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Re: My 5 Conversions [QUOTE=thefishingline;3469602] I do have to start selling some of these so be on the lookout in the classifieds this week! What do you mean be on the lookout? They have been for sale on Gbase for a couple years and probably still at 2008 prices. 52/57 Mirabella: 1957 Gibson Les Paul Standard > Guitars : Electric Solid Body - RJ Guitars \| Gbase.com 52/58’ Mueller: 1958 Gibson Les Paul Standard Goldtop > Guitars : Electric Solid Body - RJ Guitars \| Gbase.com 52/59 Gibson Burst: 1952 Gibson Les Paul Standard Sunburst > Guitars : Electric Solid Body - RJ Guitars \| Gbase.com 52/59 Mirabella Burst: 1959 Gibson LES PAUL Burst > Guitars : Electric Solid Body - RJ Guitars \| Gbase.com The Stumble and Jessenoah like this.

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Oranjeaap Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 6,014 Thanks: 38 Thanked 78 Times in 20 Posts Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Re: My 5 Conversions Lovely guitars, thanks for the pics boogieongtr __________________

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RAG7890 Bartlett Retrospec Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Australlia Posts: 2,726 Thanks: 244 Thanked 32 Times in 5 Posts Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Re: My 5 Conversions Thanks TFL, thought that might be the case. I have seen these on Gbase numerous times. The CM 52/59 is a nice guitar & as I understand it Cris was one of the best in doing conversions. I have certainly found him to be quite helpful on other matters, nice bloke.

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mapleflame V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Burke Va. Posts: 2,454 Thanks: 0 Thanked 107 Times in 26 Posts Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Re: My 5 Conversions Rich how does this one sound after the PAF change and conversion. I remember the guitar sounded great with P90's 1952 Gibson Les Paul Standard Sunburst > Guitars : Electric Solid Body - RJ Guitars \| Gbase.com __________________ No thank you to Burst I'll Bronze instead. I just love the green left on my arm in the morning. It Looks Like Victory.

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janalex Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 40 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Re: My 5 Conversions Im just curious. Could you tell which guitar is which in a blinded test? It sounds like all sound great but are they all that different from each other?

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thefishingline Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Long Beach, NY Posts: 2,961 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 11 Posts Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Re: My 5 Conversions yes I could...I have had them long enough and every neck is different from the other and no two necks alike some bridge PUPs are brighter than the other

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pinefd V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 6,798 Thanks: 188 Thanked 468 Times in 46 Posts Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Re: My 5 Conversions I love the '52/'57 Mirabella conversion...by far my favorite of the bunch! Frank thefishingline likes this. __________________ Check out some of my personal gear at: Historic Les Paul Database http://histrungguitars.com/ Please visit my new HiStrung Guitars Facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Histru...38001253029620

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Jean Christophe Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 195 Thanks: 0 Thanked 18 Times in 6 Posts Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Re: My 5 Conversions Like Jim said most of the guitars have been for sell for years ....

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thefishingline Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Long Beach, NY Posts: 2,961 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 11 Posts Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Re: My 5 Conversions did we trade e mails already???

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thefishingline Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Long Beach, NY Posts: 2,961 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 11 Posts Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Re: My 5 Conversions PM sent

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boogieongtr Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 631 Thanks: 2 Thanked 92 Times in 13 Posts Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Re: My 5 Conversions That 52/59 Mirabella Burst is one of the best looking conversions I have ever seen. Why can't I get lucky and find a top like that?

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