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Unread 07-28-2010, 07:01 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Catalonia votes to ban Bullfighting

The parliament of Catalonia has voted to ban bullfighting - the first region of mainland Spain to do so. The vote took place as the result of a petition brought to parliament, signed by 180,000 people who say the practice is barbaric and outdated. Bullfight supporters insist that the corrida, as it is known, is an important tradition to preserve. They also fear the vote could be the first of many in the country. The ban takes effect in January 2012.

In Wednesday's vote, 68 backed a ban, 55 voted against and nine abstained.



Barcelona's main bullring is one of the oldest in Spain, but support for the bullfight has waned. The Barcelona bullring is the only functioning one in Catalonia. The vote was brought to the agenda by activists who argue it is cruel and unacceptable and say most spectators in Catalonia these days are tourists. The campaign was led by the animal rights lobby group Prou! (Enough!).

Supporters says the corrida is an art form that it is vital to preserve Catalan nationalism.

The vote was close as the two main parties in parliament took the unusual step of allowing members to cast their ballots according to their conscience. But while the official debate is over animal rights, many believe this process is an attempt by nationalist-minded Catalans to mark their difference from the rest of Spain by rejecting one of its best known traditions. Pro-bullfighting groups fear that a ban could spark a wave of similar campaigns across the country. They argue that threatens the livelihood of thousands of people. The first Spanish region to ban bullfighting was the Canary Islands, in 1991.


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BBC News - Catalonia bans bullfighting in landmark Spain vote
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Re: Catalonia votes to ban Bullfighting

About bloody time !
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Re: Catalonia votes to ban Bullfighting

I hate bloodsports, it's just so wrong.

This bastards on the receiving end for a change, a 10" deep stomach wound apparently, and my only sympathy here is for the bull.

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Should be banned world-wide!!


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Re: Catalonia votes to ban Bullfighting

Tradition or not... it's cruel.
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It's a manly sport.
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Re: Catalonia votes to ban Bullfighting

Good on them . I have seen a bullfight up close in Spain and it is not a nice experience believe me.
In fact it made me sick and we had to leave.
I was young at the time and only went with the rest of the band to see what it was all about as we got free tickets.
One of lifes experiences that left a nasty taste in my mouth ever since.
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Re: Catalonia votes to ban Bullfighting

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I hate bloodsports, it's just so wrong.

This bastards on the receiving end for a change, a 10" deep stomach wound apparently, and my only sympathy here is for the bull.

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Dead right hotrat.
We actually cheered when the Matador got gored and had to make a hasty exit from the bullring as a result.

This guy got everything coming to him.
This is the point in a bullfight where he sticks blades into the bulls neck to sever nerves and weaken and anger the bull even more.
This dick won't be stabbing anything again...The bull killed him..
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Re: Catalonia votes to ban Bullfighting

About time they did!

Now Bull riding, on the other hand! Anyone watch the pro stuff? "Chicken on a chain"



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Good on them . I have seen a bullfight up close in Spain and it is not a nice experience believe me.
In fact it made me sick and we had to leave.
I was young at the time and only went with the rest of the band to see what it was all about as we got free tickets.
One of lifes experiences that left a nasty taste in my mouth ever since.
Good on you, Phil. The argument that it's 'part of the culture' is nonsense and outdated imo. I often say to people it's not that long ago that sticking little kids up chimneys was an acceptable norm in England. Doesn't mean it should go on though.
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Good on you, Phil. The argument that it's 'part of the culture' is nonsense and outdated imo. I often say to people it's not that long ago that sticking little kids up chimneys was an acceptable norm in England. Doesn't mean it should go on though.
Yeah, when the bull tossed the guy in the air all our band cheered, but a deathly hush fell on the whole stadium and about 20,000 faces turned our way.
Oooops time for a quick exit..

It's like these idiots in Spain who go on the annual run with the bulls thing.
OK, they don't kill the bulls, but they sure scare the shit out of the poor things.

This is when it all went wrong though..What do they expect. I have no time for all that macho shit..
Notice they are all young men. Women on the whole just aint that stupid and have nothing to prove. Says something for the daftness of our gender doesn't it?

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Re: Catalonia votes to ban Bullfighting

The whole "it's a part of our culture" argument is the biggest bunch of bullshit. Slavery used to be a part of the culture in the American south, Female circumcision is a part of some cultures, cannibalism is a part of some cultures, receiving lashes for conversing with the opposite sex is a part of some cultures.... does this make it right?
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Re: Catalonia votes to ban Bullfighting

I like it when the bull wins!

If they have a blood lust, let the people that enjoy this to run around the ring wearing pink tights, waving manly capes around and sticking each other with sharp pointy shit.
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If they put corks on the end of the bull's horns and pointy sticks it would make it all much safer.

Actually I think it is totally stupid.
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Another vote for ITS ABOUT F**KING TIME. What a bunch of macho idiocy. Culture? I remember when Michael Vick got busted for dog fighting,Whoopie Goldberg said you have to understand he came from that culture...well that culture sucks ass and so does this.

Theres another running of the bulls thing where they put a wreath on the head of a bull and set it on fire. What a bunch of losers,why don't you bait bears while youre at it.
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Re: Catalonia votes to ban Bullfighting

Yes, about time! Glad they got some common sense!

That stuff is brutality and animal cruelty and nasty stuff all combined into some sorry display of GROTESQUE crap!
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Re: Catalonia votes to ban Bullfighting

It is a start, I hope the rest of Spain and other countries (eg: France etc) will follow. Even if they are not as bloody, it still promotes it.
It is about time this sport/art or whatever they want to call it end. For some reason they think cruelty to other animals is wrong yet this is ok .
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Re: Catalonia votes to ban Bullfighting

Looked it up, bullfighting around the world: (if correct)

Portugal

Portuguese bullfighting is generally described as "bloodless" because the bull is not killed in the ring. Often, however, a butcher will dispatch a wounded animal backstage though the lucky ones are packed off to take part in American rodeos or put out to pasture. Unlike the Spanish version, in Portugal the bullfighter is usually on horseback, and the bull's horns are sometimes filed down to make them less sharp.


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Bullfighting has been popular in pockets of southern France for 150 years. Though the practice contravenes a 1976 act that outlaws the torture and deliberate mistreatment of animals, the law makes an exception for La Corrida in areas where there is an "unbroken, local, tradition". Nîmes in Languedoc-Roussillon is particularly passionate with a million visitors flocking to the five-day festival at Pentecost each year.


Mexico


The conquistadors brought bullfighting to Latin America in the 1500s and nowadays Mexicans are probably the most enthusiastic after the Spanish. Mexico City boasts the largest ring in the world, which can accommodate 60,000 spectators. Mexican bullfighting is similar to the Spanish style – the matador is the star of the show, teasing the animal with a cap before killing it with a sword.


Peru


Conchita Cintrón made her debut in 1937 at the main arena in Lima, aged 13. Famous for her skills on foot and horseback, Cintrón reportedly killed more than 750 bulls in Europe, Central America and South America. She died in Lisbon last year.


Ecuador


In Quito, bullfighting is the highlight of the Las fiestas de Quito festival each December when internationally renowned bullfighters are invited to show off their prowess. Outside of the capital, bullfighting enjoys less support: in 2007, Baños de Agua Santa city council declared itself anti-bullfighting.


India



A form of bull running called Jallikattu is practised in Tamil Nadu, southern India, as part of the annual Hindu festival of Pongal. The bull is not killed and the "matadors" are not supposed to use any weapons.
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Re: Catalonia votes to ban Bullfighting

i have no objection whatsoever against bullfighting. however, i think giving the humans weapons nad wounding the bull before hand is not fair. they wanna fight a bull? do it barehanded.

but seriously, ya, it's about time.
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Yip sure is, just look at the manly expression on this guy's face

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Yeah, goodie. It's a step in the right direction. Hip hip hooray and all that nonsense.

Now all we need to do is start sterilizing humans, the dumbest animals on the planet.
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I honestly didn't know that they killed the bulls during the fights. I guess it never occurred to me.
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Put a bullfighter in with a tiger and see how he makes out.
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Spanish-style bullfighting is called corrida de toros (literally "race of bulls") or la fiesta ("the festival"). In a traditional corrida, three matadores ("killers"), each fight two bulls, each of which is between four and six years old and weighs no less than 460 kg. (1,014 lbs.)Each matador has six assistants — two picadores ("lancers") mounted on horseback, three banderilleros ("flagmen") - who along with the matadors are collectively known as toreros ("bullfighters") - and a mozo de espada ("sword page"). Collectively they comprise a cuadrilla ("entourage").

The modern corrida is highly ritualized, with three distinct stages or tercios ("thirds"), the start of each being announced by a trumpet sound. The participants first enter the arena in a parade, called the paseíllo, to salute the presiding dignitary, accompanied by band music. Torero costumes are inspired by 18th century Andalusian clothing, and matadores are easily distinguished by the gold of their traje de luces ("suit of lights") as opposed to the lesser banderilleros who are also called toreros de plata ("bullfighters of silver").
Corrida in San Marcos, Mexico.

Next, the bull enters the ring to be tested for ferocity by the matador and banderilleros with the magenta and gold capote ("dress cape"). This is the first stage, the tercio de varas ("the lancing third"), and the matador first confronts the bull with the capote, observing the behaviour of the bull while performing a tanda ("series of passes") to impress the crowd.

Next, a picador enters the arena on horseback armed with a vara ("lance"). To protect the horse from the bull's horns, the horse is surrounded by a peto — a protective mattress-like covering. Prior to 1930, the horse did not wear any protection, and the bull would usually disembowel the horse during this stage. Until this change was instituted, the number of horses killed during a fight was higher than the number of bulls killed.

At this point, the picador stabs just behind the morillo, a mound of muscle on the fighting bull's neck, weakening the neck muscles and leading to the animal's first loss of blood. The manner in which the bull charges the horse provides important clues to the matador about which side the bull favors. If the picador is successful, the bull will hold its head and horns lower during the following stages of the fight. This makes the bull's charges less dangerous and more reliable, enabling the matador to perform.

In the next stage, the tercio de banderillas ("the third of flags"), the three banderilleros each attempt to plant two banderillas, sharp barbed sticks into the bull's shoulders. These anger and invigorate the bull who has been tired by his attacks on the horse and the damage he has taken from the lance. Sometimes a matador will place his own banderillas.

In the final stage, the tercio de muerte ("the third of death"), the matador re-enters the ring alone with a small red cape, or muleta, and a sword. It is a common misconception that the color red is supposed to anger the bull, because bulls, in fact, are colorblind.\ The cape is thought to be red to mask the bull's blood, although this is now also a matter of tradition.The matador uses his cape to attract the bull in a series of passes which serve the dual purpose of wearing the animal down for kill and producing a beautiful display or faena. He may also demonstrate his domination over the bull by caping it especially close to his body. The faena is the entire performance with the muleta and it is usually broken down into tandas, "series", of passes. The faena ends with a final series of passes in which the matador with a muleta attempts to maneuver the bull into a position to stab it between the shoulder blades and through the aorta or heart. The act of thrusting the sword is called an estocada.

If the matador has performed particularly well, the crowd may petition the president to award the matador an ear of the bull by waving white handkerchiefs. If his performance was exceptional, he will award two, and in certain more rural rings a tail can still be awarded. Very rarely, if the public or the matador believe that the bull has fought bravely, they may petition the president of the plaza to grant the bull an indulto before the tercio de muerte. This is when the bull’s life is spared and allowed to leave the ring alive and return to the ranch where it came from. Then the bull becomes a stud bull for the rest of his life.

Over time, modern-day Spanish regulations have reduced the goriness of the fight, but only for the matadors and the horses, introducing the padding for picadors' horses and mandating full-fledged operating rooms in the premises.
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it's been banned..
now go punch a gorilla on the nose, lets see how f#cking tough you are...
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Good on them . I have seen a bullfight up close in Spain and it is not a nice experience believe me.
In fact it made me sick and we had to leave.
I was young at the time and only went with the rest of the band to see what it was all about as we got free tickets.
One of lifes experiences that left a nasty taste in my mouth ever since.
I guess it is how you are raised. I was raised where people raised, slaughtered and butchered there own meat. It always has shocked and sometimes amused me how city folk found such things disturbing but eat meat. Bullfighting is an exstention of the slaughtering of cattle for meat. It evolved into a sport and then a tradition. I would not be disturbed by it.
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