And She Said, Okay...

[SKATTERBRANE]

Most of the advice here is either simply jokes or very poor. Vasco has the right idea. My advice to you is:
1. Pay attention to her and what she has to say, forget yourself, be yourself.
2. Don't read "between the lines" too much, it will distract you, and drive you crazy.
3. Try to relax, gentle humor is best on the first date.
4. Don't be overly romantic, the most memorable romantic gestures are small and personal, not grandiose.

[Kate033]

Good advice coming from Vasco and Skat. Remember, she's likely just as nervous as you would be. Just be yourself, relax, and good luck!

[River]

Originally Posted by Kate033

Good advice coming from Vasco and Skat. Remember, she's likely just as nervous as you would be. Just be yourself, relax, and good luck!

+1.

If you want sincere, be sincere. If you just want a fling, don't buy - rent.

[blakem]

Don't forget to "Flog the dolphin" before you go out..

Advice from Woogy :

[SKATTERBRANE]

Originally Posted by blakem

Don't forget to "Flog the dolphin" before you go out..

Advice from Woogy :

What a great movie!

[John Vasco]

Oh, and another thing. DON'T take a guitar with you, no matter what others say. 100% distraction, and she'll think you're a dork totally wrapped up in yourself. I never told my girlfriend (see my avatar - now my wife of 35 years) about my playing guitar for quite a few days, the night before a band gig actually. I told her I was in a band and she said she would like to come along and see us play (thinking we were a load of crap, as she later admitted). So the Transit picked her up the next night and we headed off to... one of the big night clubs in the city centre. We were only one of the top bands in Liverpool at the time! The moral being, once again, take things slowly, don't rush.

[Nicole Rose]

i already gave him the short version of htat vasco, but i guess reinforcement doesn't hurt i never played guitar for a date right off unless it was guitar that brought us together

[River]

[River]

And whomever is responsible for "that" tag on this thread should step forward and receive their "Tool Of The Month" award.

[Mattyboy]

Yeah! Vasco and Nicole your right. That would look egotistical for him to bring his guitar on the first date. Bring it up in casual conversation a few days from now. Forget what I said about the guitar; but please, take my advice regarding bringing sex toys to the first date. It's a naughty naughty no no.

[Geetarguy]

Originally Posted by FLICKOFLASH

Guys tell me I'm not lying here. Walk into a club full of hot woman .You are invisible. Walk in with some hot woman & suddenly your getting grabbed assed & spoken to. Why is this ? Woman look for a man with a sense of value .Not necessarily looks. Woman become katty with competition. Flavour Flave !!!

ABSOLUTE TRUTH!!! Another way to get the hot chicks to look is to be in a Rock n Roll band!!!

And seriously, to the OP, if you want to make an impression on her, MAKE HER LAUGH!!! If you can make a chick laugh she'll be eating out of the palm of your hand.

[SKATTERBRANE]

When I want to make a first date laugh, I just pull out my wiener. (or is it spelled weiner?)

[Harmony]

Vasco

[Drudeboy]

Drudeboy's top tip for Vast's first date. OI! no laughing I'm serious this time!


When you decide what you are having to eat, You order all the food, speaking clearly and confidently to the waitress/waiter. Smile and be chatty with the waitress, take control. Be masterful!!

Women like men to take control of situations sometimes

[John Vasco]

Originally Posted by Harmony

Vasco

Harmony,
Do I detect that you can relate to this sentiment:
"...If you are going to see her again, then when you part DO NOT attempt to give her a kiss of any description. They expect that little 'boost' to their ego. She may be slightly affronted, but if she likes you enough, she'll make plans for the second meeting. When you see her again, she'll make damn sure she gets one that second time!..."

I suspect you are thinking, 'Damn right!'

[epilespaul2000]

Originally Posted by SKATTERBRANE

When I want to make a first date laugh, I just pull out my wiener. (or is it spelled weiner?)

Attah boy Skat. Acceptance is the first step!

[Harmony]

Originally Posted by John Vasco

Harmony,
Do I detect that you can relate to this sentiment:
"...If you are going to see her again, then when you part DO NOT attempt to give her a kiss of any description. They expect that little 'boost' to their ego. She may be slightly affronted, but if she likes you enough, she'll make plans for the second meeting. When you see her again, she'll make damn sure she gets one that second time!..."

I suspect you are thinking, 'Damn right!'

If she is a decent girl and you want something more meaningful than just a 'wham bam thank you mam', then yes I agree. It shows respect and makes us believe that you ain't just out to get in our knickers sort of thing.

Also by not kissing on first date, it can give the girl some anticipation if she likes him. Those that know, know what I am talking about, butterflies lol

I know it may sound soft but that is the true fact. And if guys be honest you have them too
A girl would often let on what she wants, however the shy ones are more difficult. Rushing things tend to put girls off.

Oh and on the guitar thing..don't take it! Maybe sometime down the road you could play something to her, but no way right now.

[Hamtone]

Not to step on any toes here an the advice that has been given, but my beliefs are totally different than that of any of said advice given.

The whole idea of "be yourself" how about be your best self? Why not bring your best? If you were to bring your regular self (in this case) you would still be home wondering if you should ask her out. Again I learned never to ask anything, when you ask a question there is 2 answers 3 if you count maybe which is still the same as no. I hate no.

Being a gentleman is great and I have never been anything but. On the contrary the advice here to supplicate her and treat her is she were a princess, is ludicrous. What has she done to earn being a princes? I do not mean this in a sexual way at all, but she is just another meat sack like yourself. She has graced you with a yes response to going out, you had better kiss her ass twice, huh?

Women, perpetuate this crap because its good for them. Think about it "hey I have a tits and a vagina in captivity I can get free shit, without doing anything" How do you know she isnt a douchebag?

Lets say you have been walking past this street person everyday and you speak while waiting for the bus. One day you decide that you know I am going to treat them to dinner just out of the kindness of my heart. How would you treat that person? Would you be all worried? Would you wonder how to handle them and make conversation? No you would feel good about doing something for another human. The only difference in this scenario is your beliefs and what labels you and most everyone else is pasting for you.

My rules, I only date women I am already sleeping with plain and simple. What does this mean? I dont pay for shit, I dont take them on formal "dates" I would say to some girl that has decided she wants to go out (which I am labeling for ease" hey we will go do something interesting on xyz day. Now with my job I have to price things at homedepot walmart etc, I would meet them and take them with me and have them help price my inventories. Or take them to the transfer station to do my recycling. Why not?

What else does that mean? It means if she hasnt any invested interest in me I am not out anything. I am offering her something, the opportunity to get to know me. Now dont booo and hiss, why would I not believe that I am a girls best choice? Why would a person not believe they have the most to offer another human?

The whole idea of dating is crap and you get crap from "dating" you put on your date face and best behavior and so does she. She's on guard and going to protect her secrets and w/e. My way you cut the bullshit find out if they are good for you or not and move on, whichever way that may be.

I can go on for pages, but the difference is, I spent 4 years of my life doing nothing but learning about me and pick up. That was my entire life's hobby and mission. I would go to work leave and go meet 5 new girls every night after work. I would go out on weekend and meet 10 per day. on the nights I had commitments, I would squeeze in what i could. Most of the time when I meet someone new if they were cool I would have them to some other place immediately. Now I did not meet people at bars and clubs. I would do walkups at the mall the gas station stores anywhere, but bars and clubs.

So my point is traditional only means traditionally good for those who benefit, men do not benefit from dating. Oh and whoever said something about dont kiss her or whatever, how could anyone say that? I have kissed girls that I have just met less that 2 minutes prior, every situation is different, and none of them are the same.

Relax treat her as if she were a human and not woman, and have fun...Christ its not rocket science, its having fun..

Ok I have my flame retardant suit on..lol bring it

[Hamtone]

Originally Posted by Harmony

If she is a decent girl and you want something more meaningful than just a 'wham bam thank you mam', then yes I agree. It shows respect and makes us believe that you ain't just out to get in our knickers sort of thing.

Also by not kissing on first date, it can give the girl some anticipation if she likes him. Those that know, know what I am talking about, butterflies lol

I know it may sound soft but that is the true fact. And if guys be honest you have them too
A girl would often let on what she wants, however the shy ones are more difficult. Rushing things tend to put girls off.

Oh and on the guitar thing..don't take it! Maybe sometime down the road you could play something to her, but no way right now.

Harmony I am sorry but I am going to have to go and throw up.

I agree dont bring your guitar that is dorky as all hell.

You cant gauge anything based on time, it all has more to do with vibe and energy between 2 people. If they hit off and she wants to get laid, so be it. she doesnt so be it, dont limit your beliefs on what one person believes or would expect.

"good" "nice" and "dirty" girls all want to get laid, I dont know wtf people perpetuate this belief for Even our mums got laid, look we are here.

Again women who are married have boyfriends and or never have gone and picked up women will give you great advice on how to be a boyfriend a dad etc, those "nice" guys who agree with everything she says and says "cool" after every finite thing that resembles her having a life, do not get laid and they are liars. "nice" guys are liars, because they are not "nice" they are just not saying or feeling what they would like.

I used to look for opportunities to "spank" girls so they would know I was real.

[Harmony]

Ham, in Vast's other thread it explains what kind of person the girl is and also Vast explains what kind of guy he is.

Everyone is different, granted. Vast can make his own mind up if he wants to take any opinions/advice here and use them.

If that is how you see things Ham or do it, well that's you. Works for some, doesn't for others.

[Harmony]

Hmm whatever Ham

[Hamtone]

Originally Posted by Harmony

Ham, in Vast's other thread it explains what kind of person the girl is and also Vast explains what kind of guy he is.

Everyone is different, granted. Vast can make his own mind up if he wants to take any opinions/advice here and use them.

If that is how you see things Ham or do it, well that's you. Works for some, doesn't for others.

I dont know why I got a w/e...I did read and the reasont he girl is like that is because she is insecure, and so isnt he. This is not a bad or good thing it just is.

Trust me as much as women would love to make everything about being repressed by men, most men fold cave and give their power away to women, being thinking of them in some other way than being another meatsack/ human.

"oh you should be this or that so she will like you" "bring her her glass slippers so she can feel xyz" Bleck

I do know that I am speaking well outside of your range of reality, but I would guess that my experience of setting people free (that includes woman) may far exceed yours. I am not being dick, its just a fact because the traditional bonds are f-n lousy for girls too. They have to conform to rules, that hold them back too.

You know the " oh good girls dont" "is I sleep with him will he think I am slut?" "oh no my mom told me not to put that in my mouth" How absolutely awful to have this be that large beliefs of people. How awful to be ashamed. If a person is living in their pre-programmed life you are going to get pre-programed responses, which are never actually real, they are just practiced.

[Hamtone]

I guess my main point is, there is a lot more opportunities and possibilities in this world than what one may initially believe or expect, if you were to poll the genral population.

[TOMMYTHUNDERS]

hamtone - this thread got funny

[Hamtone]

Originally Posted by TOMMYTHUNDERS

hamtone - this thread got funny

werd

[TOMMYTHUNDERS]

[Hamtone]

My mom used to tell me "dont pull girls hair they dont like it" I pull on my wifes hair all the time..lol

[Hamtone]

[Volitan]

Originally Posted by Hamtone

I dont know why I got a w/e...I did read and the reasont he girl is like that is because she is insecure, and so isnt he. This is not a bad or good thing it just is.

Trust me as much as women would love to make everything about being repressed by men, most men fold cave and give their power away to women, being thinking of them in some other way than being another meatsack/ human.

"oh you should be this or that so she will like you" "bring her her glass slippers so she can feel xyz" Bleck

I do know that I am speaking well outside of your range of reality, but I would guess that my experience of setting people free (that includes woman) may far exceed yours. I am not being dick, its just a fact because the traditional bonds are f-n lousy for girls too. They have to conform to rules, that hold them back too.

You know the " oh good girls dont" "is I sleep with him will he think I am slut?" "oh no my mom told me not to put that in my mouth" How absolutely awful to have this be that large beliefs of people. How awful to be ashamed. If a person is living in their pre-programmed life you are going to get pre-programed responses, which are never actually real, they are just practiced.

Yer funny

[LPV]

It all comes down to this, she either likes you or doesn't. If she doesn't, that's the way that went.

Want to know the secret to long happiness in a relationship ?

SHIT LUCK

If you happen to hook with someone after all the being on your best behavior bullshit wears off on both of you (you know where you start farting again ?) that is someone that you would want to hang with irrespective of their being in a possession of a penis or vagina, you lucked out. Stick it out, she's a keeper.