What conspiracy theories do you think might be true?

[BstrdSonOJmsBrwn]

Originally Posted by geochem1st

The hijackers had turned off the transponders.

.....were these "hijackers"(who have changed over the years depending on who has been found alive after the initial list was submitted)......even "trained" enough to know how to do even that?....

[geochem1st]

Originally Posted by BstrdSonOJmsBrwn

yeah.....the US government sure did that.......lets go bomb ANYONE thats Muslim

Yes but it didn't have to be that way. Lets be smarter than that in our private investigation.
Bush Administration's First Memo on al-Qaeda Declassified

[BstrdSonOJmsBrwn]

Originally Posted by geochem1st

Who ever wrote Costners lines did a poor job and has no understanding of what science is.

it was a MOVIE,Geo.....its NOT like i thought anything in IT....was factual.....i would never do that.....the results come when you do your own research,using reliable sources

[geochem1st]

Originally Posted by BstrdSonOJmsBrwn

.....were these "hijackers"(who have changed over the years depending on who has been found alive after the initial list was submitted)......even "trained" enough to know how to do even that?....

In the middle east as here, many people share common names. This myth of finding hijackers alive was disproved ages ago, through the use of birthday comparisons. As far as training goes, we will never know because they are dead. The fact remains that the transponders were turned off. Civilian airline tracking sites like 'flightaware.com' indicate this as well.

Nice try.... you don't quit do you?

[River]

[BstrdSonOJmsBrwn]

Originally Posted by geochem1st

I have read the published paper by the scientists who found the thermite. I am aware of the high temps of the fire after the collapse. NOWHERE is it inferred WHERE the thermite came from. For all we know the thermite could have been placed in the luggage of the hijackers on board the aircraft. That would account for the high temps melting the steel beams to cause the collapse. Any Al-Queda quack chemist educated in the US would know that jet fuel won't get that hot without a catalyst. Nothing definitive can be said about the origin of the thermite with the current amount of data we have. To asume that it came from a covert op is completely groundless.


Again, in addition there were also Chemical Oxygen Generators aboard the plane. All of the variables have to be considered.

no...its not a "smoking gun"........yet......strange,to say the least

[geochem1st]

Originally Posted by BstrdSonOJmsBrwn

no...its not a "smoking gun"........yet......strange,to say the least

True that. And I will be off now, its been a pleasure. Till tomorrow

[BstrdSonOJmsBrwn]

Originally Posted by geochem1st

In the middle east as here, many people share common names. This myth of finding hijackers alive was disproved ages ago, through the use of birthday comparisons. As far as training goes, we will never know because they are dead. The fact remains that the transponders were turned off. Civilian airline tracking sites like 'flightaware.com' indicate this as well.

Nice try.... you don't quit do you?

beer....its the only thing that shuts me up.....hookers,too........but both....for only a small time.....lmao!

[BstrdSonOJmsBrwn]

Originally Posted by geochem1st

True that. And I will be off now, its been a pleasure. Till tomorrow

have a good one,Geo

[gadafi]

Originally Posted by BstrdSonOJmsBrwn

.....were these "hijackers"(who have changed over the years depending on who has been found alive after the initial list was submitted)......even "trained" enough to know how to do even that?....

It is very easy to turn off a transponder it is simply a radio switch and is a very basic component of flight training. You can't leave the ground without a serviceable transponder in controlled airspace so you need to know how to use one.

[BstrdSonOJmsBrwn]

Originally Posted by River

its 50% that...
and 50% this...

[BstrdSonOJmsBrwn]

Originally Posted by gadafi

It is very easy to turn off a transponder it is simply a radio switch and is a very basic component of flight training. You can't leave the ground without a serviceable transponder in controlled airspace so you need to know how to use one.

i was being somewhat facetious......

[gadafi]

oh - sorry

[VIREBEL661]

9/11 was an inside job...

[KP]

How is the stew coming.... got lots of people stirring it....

[BstrdSonOJmsBrwn]

Originally Posted by geochem1st

John, (and others)
The towers did not pancake at free fall speeds. The rubble coming off the building was certainly close to that speed because they were in free fall and this is what is being measured when the films are analyzed.

.....was there anything standing after 10 seconds?.......no......then nearly freefall speed......110 stories....under 10 seconds....both of them.....
Newton's third law......without something helping each floor (especially ones that were in NO way affected by the blast,fire,etc) break away cleanly and quickly....there is NO way.....they could have fallen....the way they did......

[BstrdSonOJmsBrwn]

Originally Posted by gadafi

oh - sorry

...its all good.......when in doubt....i'm AM being sarcastic

[Tuxedo Kaz]

Apparently some folks around here aren't familiar with Science's best friend, Ockham's Razor.

I won't say anything more; Geochem1st works quite effectively as my mouthpiece with an added benefit of not raising my blood pressure.

[BstrdSonOJmsBrwn]

Originally Posted by Tuxedo Kaz

Apparently some folks around here aren't familiar with Science's best friend, Ockham's Razor.

I won't say anything more; Geochem1st works quite effectively as my mouthpiece with an added benefit of not raising my blood pressure.

i am aware of Ockham's Razor..........however......seems we've ALL been good, and behaved here....no reason to not participate

[Tuxedo Kaz]

I'll admit; cooler heads have prevailed here (for the alternate version, look up any of MLP's 'Gun Threads').

[John Vasco]

I genuinely think the good thing about this thread is that there are two differing points of view, and for many people just looking in, and also those involved in posting, it is thought-provoking. I concede that geo has made many good points, and BstrdSonOJmsBrwn has done so as well.

The bottom line for me is that I still have an uneasy feeling about the whole thing, and that pushes me in the direction of being enquiring and inquisitive. That's no bad thing, is it?

[geochem1st]

Originally Posted by VIREBEL661

9/11 was an inside job...

I just love when someone posts and provides no back up whatsoever? An inside job....and you know this how? You can name the people who did it? You can tell us how it was done and how no one detected this operation, with evidence to prove your statement? And how were you informed about this? Sources?

[geochem1st]

Originally Posted by John Vasco

I genuinely think the good thing about this thread is that there are two differing points of view, and for many people just looking in, and also those involved in posting, it is thought-provoking. I concede that geo has made many good points, and BstrdSonOJmsBrwn has done so as well.

The bottom line for me is that I still have an uneasy feeling about the whole thing, and that pushes me in the direction of being enquiring and inquisitive. That's no bad thing, is it?

Thanks John. And we are still inquisitive, like I said about the thermite in the dust discovery. It makes me uneasy as well until more information is gained.

[geochem1st]

Originally Posted by BstrdSonOJmsBrwn

.....was there anything standing after 10 seconds?.......no......then nearly freefall speed......110 stories....under 10 seconds....both of them.....
Newton's third law......without something helping each floor (especially ones that were in NO way affected by the blast,fire,etc) break away cleanly and quickly....there is NO way.....they could have fallen....the way they did......

WTC Pancaking and Conservation of Momentum: Establishing a Freefall Baseline – DMGreer LLC

[BUDOKAI]

Originally Posted by Cookie-boy

Talking of conspiracy theories.......................................... ....

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[BUDOKAI]

Originally Posted by jonesy

but it ain't on fox news

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[River]

Originally Posted by geochem1st

I just love when someone posts and provides no back up whatsoever? An inside job....and you know this how? You can name the people who did it? You can tell us how it was done and how no one detected this operation, with evidence to prove your statement? And how were you informed about this? Sources?

That's just a bumper sticker - you know, like "Visualize Whirled Peas".

[SKATTERBRANE]

Originally Posted by geochem1st

WTC Pancaking and Conservation of Momentum: Establishing a Freefall Baseline – DMGreer LLC

Great link!

[The baron of norsworthy]

Originally Posted by geochem1st

WTC Pancaking and Conservation of Momentum: Establishing a Freefall Baseline – DMGreer LLC

The towers were designed to try and with stand a plane crashing into them werent they??

[coldsteal2]

Originally Posted by BUDOKAI

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you guys realize they get the same news resorces
that all the other news networks get dont you?
Reuters, Associated Press, etc.
But put Fox name on it and everyone freaks out
80% of thier news people are ex CNN, ABC, NBC,
CBS, reporters, silly dont you think?