Swine Flu the Poll

[MRJ5]

I am immunosupressed since 2000 due to a transplant. I do not live in a bubble nor do I have to live much different than anyone else with a little commom sense. I am one they talk about at the greatest risk of dying from the flu.

I have not had even the regular seasonal flu yet and I don't worry about catching the swine flu. I have rarly even caught a cold. All you need to do is maintain normal good hygienic behaviors and do not place yourself in a situation where you are constantly placing yourself at risk.

If a person is clearly ill you avoid contact and wash your hands regularly. Keep your hands away from your eyes and out of your nose. Yes if you pick your nose you are at a greater risk of infection. (no joke)

This flu shall pass and we shall live to rock another day.

[geochem1st]

Originally Posted by GrouchyDog

Check this out:

Epidemic Influenza And Vitamin D

Geo, you seem to know a lot about a lot, what say you?

As the author of the article states:

"Although our paper discusses the possibility that physiological doses of vitamin D (5,000 units a day) may prevent colds and the flu, and that physicians might find pharmacological doses of vitamin D (2,000 units per kilogram of body weight per day for three days) useful in treating some of the one million people who die in the world every year from influenza, we remind readers that it is only a theory. Like all theories, our theory must withstand attempts to be disproved with dispassionately conducted and well-controlled scientific experiments. "

[geochem1st]

Originally Posted by 05jrock

Sounds like another SARS or Bird Flu scare.

Or just sounds like a load of crap.

The SARS issue is far from over, we are very, very lucky that it hasn't mutated in to a more transmissible strain.

60% of humans known to have been infected with the current Asian strain of HPAI A(H5N1) have died from it, and H5N1 may mutate or reassort into a strain capable of efficient human-to-human transmission. Due to the high lethality and virulence of HPAI A(H5N1), its endemic presence, its increasingly large host reservoir, and its significant ongoing mutations, the H5N1 virus is the world's largest current pandemic threat and billions of dollars are being spent researching H5N1 and preparing for a potential influenza pandemic.

H5N1 may cause more than one influenza pandemic as it is expected to continue mutating in birds regardless of whether humans develop herd immunity to a future pandemic strain. Influenza pandemics from its genetic offspring may include influenza A virus subtypes other than H5N1.

H5N1 is easily transmissible between birds facilitating a potential global spread of H5N1. While H5N1 undergoes mutation and reassortment, creating variations which can infect species not previously known to carry the virus, not all of these variant forms can infect humans. H5N1 as an avian virus preferentially binds to a type of galactose receptors that populate the avian respiratory tract from the nose to the lungs and are virtually absent in humans, occurring only in and around the alveoli, structures deep in the lungs where oxygen is passed to the blood. Therefore, the virus is not easily expelled by coughing and sneezing, the usual route of transmission.

[Addendum]

[The_Sentry]

I call bu!!$hit on this flu scare. The government typically doles out crap like this when they're up to nogoodnicks and they don't really want to have too much print dedicated to it.

Gotta love Joe Biden, eh? Thanks a lot for scaring the hell out of everyone who's forced to take public transportation, @$$hole....

[jonesy]

Originally Posted by The_Sentry

I call bu!!$hit on this flu scare. The government typically doles out crap like this when they're up to nogoodnicks and they don't really want to have too much print dedicated to it.

Gotta love Joe Biden, eh? Thanks a lot for scaring the hell out of everyone who's forced to take public transportation, @$$hole....

[Zoshquin]

"hooray! there's a new disease! another proof that they should fund us more!"

[Last]

While I didn't hear what Biden had to say about it my wife was pizzed!

I had to calm her down she was just beside herself.

Between this crap & whenever the stock market looks like it might be turning for the better again the azz clown reporters & anlysts always have to come out with words of extreme caution even when things are good they try to make it out like it's terrible & to baton down the hatches as it's going to get much MUCH worse.

Bear Trap! OH NO!

[ojedad23]

Apparently the swine flu is hitting Houston hard

[broke_player]

While the new strain spreads around the world, the president will outlaw guns and all forms of private transportation except for military and law enforcement. As the virus spreads half the country will become infected and the people will panic. Widespread looting and crime will rise overnight. The president will declare Marshall Law. He will then use the military to dissolve the all other government, (public executions) and he will become the new Chancellor of the United States. Two years from now we will be a military state. Then I'll dig up my car, which I will bury in my back yard in parts and assemble it, along with my guns which I will hide. With the gas I stockpiled I'll make a mad-dash for the free-zone.






sci-fi rules

[River]

Originally Posted by broke_player

While the new strain spreads around the world, the president will outlaw guns and all forms of private transportation except for military and law enforcement. As the virus spreads half the country will become infected and the people will panic. Widespread looting and crime will rise overnight. The president will declare Marshall Law. He will then use the military to dissolve the all other government, (public executions) and he will become the new Chancellor of the United States. Two years from now we will be a military state. Then I'll dig up my car, which I will bury in my back yard in parts and assemble it, along with my guns which I will hide. With the gas I stockpiled I'll make a mad-dash for the free-zone.






sci-fi rules

Obviously you've seen "Tremors".

[AXE]

[River]

AXE, are you making fun of my pig? Not very sportsmanlike, she having to listen to all of this pig-shit on TV and what-not.

She's been watching your posts, and is starting to develop a complex.

[AXE]

[AXE]

[River]

AXE, my pig has a message for you, and I don't think anything gets lost in translation.

She says "pork you buddy!"

(seriously, I eat bacon on a more-than-regular basis. drives the wife and pig nuts)

[05jrock]

Originally Posted by River

Obviously you've seen "Tremors".

Sounds like pieces of Mad Max aswel

[River]

Originally Posted by 05jrock

Sounds like pieces of Mad Max aswel

Absolutely. But my mental image of Reba McIntyre with the elephant gun was really dominant.

[broke_player]

Originally Posted by River

Obviously you've seen "Tremors".

Originally Posted by 05jrock

Sounds like pieces of Mad Max aswel

a mix of
Mad Max
an old Lee Majors film called The Last Chase
and any all post apocolyptic, futuristic b-movie sci-fi flick in the last 20 yrs.
and the Twilight Zone

[River]

Originally Posted by broke_player

a mix of
Mad Max
an old Lee Majors film called The Last Chase
and any all post apocolyptic, futuristic b-movie sci-fi flick in the last 20 yrs.
and the Twilight Zone

Please, oh please don't forget the Outer Limits!

[v8ko]

Just the regular run of the mill flu kills 36,000 people in the U.S. EVERY YEAR.

Heres a quote from CNN.com

Since January, more than 13,000 people have died of complications from seasonal flu, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's weekly report on the causes of death in the nation.

That number is just in the US.

250,000-500,000 die annually from the flu.

[monkeyboy]

Originally Posted by v8ko

Just the regular run of the mill flu kills 36,000 people in the U.S. EVERY YEAR.

Heres a quote from CNN.com

Since January, more than 13,000 people have died of complications from seasonal flu, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's weekly report on the causes of death in the nation.

That number is just in the US.

250,000-500,000 die annually from the flu.

I guess the biggest fear is of it mutating into something that we can't keep up with and being able to go from species to species as well as survive more than 2-3 hosts.

[v8ko]

Originally Posted by monkeyboy

I guess the biggest fear is of it mutating into something that we can't keep up with and being able to go from species to species as well as survive more than 2-3 hosts.

You got that right monkeyboy (Ive been waiting awhile to say that haha)

[monkeyboy]

Originally Posted by v8ko

You got that right monkeyboy (Ive been waiting awhile to say that haha)

[stevedave]

Originally Posted by AXE

That is the greatest picture I have ever seen.

[jonesy]

Originally Posted by monkeyboy

I guess the biggest fear is of it mutating into something that we can't keep up with and being able to go from species to species as well as survive more than 2-3 hosts.

Fear, that's the key word..IMO

[Lax Goalie34]

Dunno if this has been said yet, but the only death in the USA was like a 6 year old mexican girl who was visiting, and had it before she entered.

TBH, i cant begin to understand why people are so scared about this. In its current form, we're fine. Thousands of people die from the NORMAL flu in the USA annually... we have one death (a mexican) and its a pandemic??

[Harpozep]

Originally Posted by The_Sentry

I call bu!!$hit on this flu scare. The government typically doles out crap like this when they're up to nogoodnicks and they don't really want to have too much print dedicated to it.

Gotta love Joe Biden, eh? Thanks a lot for scaring the hell out of everyone who's forced to take public transportation, @$$hole....

Might be this time, just like the "Terror alerts".
What color are we at these days????

But seriously, epidemics WILL strike again. It's all a matter of God getting it right in his mutation plan. Just like earthquakes and meteor strikes, one WILL happen again. This year, next, a century from now.?? Who knows, but being a bit wary of it is in our best interest.

Daily show says it all
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_192151.html

Calling it all BS each time is counter productive and the last vestige of a cranky soul.

[jonesy]

I gotta agree with Sentry on this, and it will be interesting to see how this "Global Panademic" plays out in the next few weeks and months.

I think it is all part of the "Sheeple" mentality, some People believe everything they hear, others question it and ask themselves is this for real or not??.

Like I said "I smell Crap and it ain't from the pigs" this whole things reeks IMO, it is merely another way of keeping people afraid and manipulating the masses. Sars, bird flu, nuclear war, comets, more media BS and hype IMO.

All these Media-hype things take the focus of the Real bigger problems that are going on, and keeps people from actually focusing on them IMO


http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=13433

http://revolutionradio.org/2009/05/0...-flu-pandemic/

http://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/...-chossudovsky/

http://www.propublica.org/ion/stimul...ck-part-2-429/

[geochem1st]

Originally Posted by jonesy

I gotta agree with Sentry on this, and it will be interesting to see how this "Global Panademic" plays out in the next few weeks and months.

I think it is all part of the "Sheeple" mentality, some People believe everything they hear, others question it and ask themselves is this for real or not??.

Like I said "I smell Crap and it ain't from the pigs" this whole things reeks IMO, it is merely another way of keeping people afraid and manipulating the masses. Sars, bird flu, nuclear war, comets, more media BS and hype IMO.

All these Media-hype things take the focus of the Real bigger problems that are going on, and keeps people from actually focusing on them IMO


Political Lies and Media Disinformation regarding the Swine Flu Pandemic

Political Lies and Media Disinformation regarding the Swine Flu Pandemic

Political Lies and Media Disinformation regarding the Swine Flu Pandemic by Michel Chossudovsky « Dandelion Salad

Stimulus and Swine Flu: Where the Truth Lies - ProPublica

The best 'reality check' is to check history.....

During the autumn of 1918, likely after experiencing antigenic shift, the flu reappeared in the Americas. This time it seemed more virulent and continued to attack people in the 19-34 age group along with the usual population segments of children and the elderly. Fully 20% of the population was affected. Deaths from pneumonia were unusually high. At military camps bodies could not be autopsied fast enough that the dead were piled like so much cordwood in storerooms. The civilian population was also decimated. Medical personnel were unable to offer more than palliative care. Some medical authorities claimed the cause was "Pfeiffer's bacillus" and recommended wearing gauze masks to prevent its spread. Schools and public places were closed. Many cities mandated the wearing of masks and levied fines of $5 on those who failed to comply.

The unusual feature of this epidemic was the age-mortality curve: flu usually kills young children and the elderly, but this version also took a large proportion of males between 19 and 34. Compared to the Plague of the Middle Ages with its eight to thirteen million dead globally per year, this may have been the most lethal recorded epidemic in human history.

During September of 2001 it was announced that the full genome of the 1918 flu had been decoded and the protein that caused its virulence had been discovered. It was an H1N1 flu.

History of Plagues

Given this history, do you still feel that this alert is all blown out of proportion?