Who is this Orianthi and why hasn't she gotten more recognition?

[roadsong66]

I stumbled across a couple of Orianthi videos on YouTube this morning. This is the first I have ever heard of her. She's not bad!

What's her background...other than talented and hot?

YouTube - The sexy Orianthi at The Crossroads Festival

YouTube - The sexy Orianthi at The Crossroads Festival

YouTube - Orianthi, Crossroads 2007

YouTube - Orianthi, Crossroads 2007

[Phil47uk]

Originally Posted by roadsong66

I stumbled across a couple of Orianthi videos on YouTube this morning. This is the first I have ever heard of her. She's not bad!

What's her background...other than talented and hot?

YouTube - Orianthi, Crossroads 2007

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I posted this video up a year or so back.. Nice tone and feel on this vid.

It's the same with guys.. You win one you loose one.. Not everyone who is talented gets a crack at the whip.. Her only attribute comparing her to many other male contemporaries in the business is that she's female..
Now if that's the sole reason, it's a bit pathetic really.
I'm sure she'd like to be known for her playing skills rather than what her figure is like. But then there are women and women.. Some may want to cash in on being a novelty..Some wouldn't.. What type she is, I have no idea.. She just plays nice guitar as far as I am concerned.

[WhippingPost]

Originally Posted by Phil47uk

I'm sure she'd like to be known for her playing skills rather than what her figure is like. But then there are women and women.. Some may want to cash in on being a novelty..Some wouldn't.. What type she is, I have no idea.. She just plays nice guitar as far as I am concerned.

I've heard her play some really good stuff, and that's what I've known her for. I think she could make a great run (given the chance) on her guitar skills. Some of her playing seems to lack a bit of maturity at times, though. Maybe feeling is more the word I'm looking for. Of course, that's just my opinion - and no, I couldn't do any better.

Most of the stage-dress I've seen has always looked a bit "thrown together" to me, which would imply that she's more focused on her playing than on how she looks. I don't know how true that is, though.

She still reminds me of a friend from high school...

[roadsong66]

She appears to still be quite young, so time will tell.

[Phil47uk]

In the vid with the green PRS she gets some great tone , with some very nice phrasing.. On some other stuff I have seen of her she seems a bit rigid.
I don't know which came first. I really wish some of these players would dump all that over the top effects crap and concentrate on getting good tone from just the guitar and amp.

[Cookie-boy]

In my opinion she's a looker who can play reasonably well. The cynic in me says the whole package from the little licks to the rings on her fingers is being managed and choreographed by some giant corporation with precision control. Thirty yeas ago she'd have had to do all that herself and probably would have gained more respect because of it.

Right or wrong Phil?

[Mr Insane]

Is she the one who played guitar for Carrie Underwood at the Grammys?

[Phil47uk]

Originally Posted by Cookie-boy

In my opinion she's a looker who can play reasonably well. The cynic in me says the whole package from the little licks to the rings on her fingers is being managed and choreographed by some giant corporation with precision control. Thirty yeas ago she'd have had to do all that herself and probably would have gained more respect because of it.

Right or wrong Phil?

Oh yeah Cookie I agree.. Today everything is stage managed.. Do this..Don't do that..Wear this.. Don't wear that. Smile..Don't smile. Even the guys have to suffer it.. It's all about packaging.
My daughter is a great singer and I do lots of gigs with her. She doesn't do the X factor warbling round the pentatonic thing, but sings it straight with great intonation, like the old days of Carol King etc.
Guys steer well clear of patronizing her when I'm on the scene, but one guy took her aside and advised her to wear a little short skirts and a low tops... Just as her Father has always advised her to do she told him to" Fuck off ".. . Many of her fans are also women, which is unusual, but simply because she doesn't dress like a tart and dresses for herself. .Not men.

[KP]

YouTube - Santana 2008 Santana Girl

YouTube - Santana 2008 Santana Girl

[Cookie-boy]

As much as I appreciate a short skirt and a low top I agree with your daughter in that the music must prevail. As she is a bloody looker to boot then that can only add the the mystery!

[DRF]

She's okay,I can see this boxed blues scale playing at the local pub done just as well, She does however use 4 fingers thats a plus and can sing

Definately prepackaged glossy Pap heh heh,the main reason (not the only one)- she's on the radar is cause she's a good lookin female...I'm just a jaded middle aged musician.
...Great! Santana is passing on his torch of Mediocrity.

Hey Philuk, your daughter is a looker.I too like the straight singing style.

[rmeyer8]

I saw a few videos of her playing before, she's good and probably the hottest guitarist I've ever seen besides Nancy Wilson

[monkeyboy]

Eh, just like with Santana, I was bored 10 seconds into that last video. She's cute but nothin special music wise.

[Mr Insane]

You guys are hopeless.

[Phil47uk]

Originally Posted by Cookie-boy

As much as I appreciate a short skirt and a low top I agree with your daughter in that the music must prevail. As she is a bloody looker to boot then that can only add the the mystery!

Yeah lot's of people thinks she looks like Nora Jones. Especially with that mass of dark hair and dark eyes and complexion.
What pisses my daughter off is that men can look like shit and be recognized for their talents, whereas women have to either half strip off or pretend they are vacent minded idiots.
I do agree with her there in many cases. She did a gig with another girl I know a few years back and boy can this girl play lovely guitar and also writes fantastic songs. And when I mean she's good..I mean she's bloody good. Unfortunately however, unlike my daughter who looks the part, ( In showbiz terms), this girl is very plain. Not attractive as far as most men are concerned. Doesn't have a bubbly personality and is quite shy.
Now when they came off stage men were flocking round my daughter like bees around a honey pot, which is fine in itself, but not one guy came up to the other girl and said.".Great playing". She basically just sat on her own. My daughter noticed this and tried to get her into the converstion and moved over to where she was sitting, but the guys just weren't interested and totally ignored her. My daughter got quite angry about it after the gig and said it's not fair on many women musicians, because most of these men are relly not interested in what we have to offer with regard talent, just how we look.
I wonder just how many of us guys would like it, if some good looking guy came off stage with you after you had just played a blinding set only for you to be totaly ignored by every female in the house, while he gets all the acollade.

[WildeStarr]

I had never heard of her before.
Talented and beautiful.

[Phil47uk]

Originally Posted by WildeStarr

I had never heard of her before.
Talented and beautiful.

Lucky you added the word talented.. My daughter would have had you hung drawn and quartered otherwise...

[WildeStarr]

Originally Posted by Phil47uk

Lucky you added the word talented.. My daughter would have had you hung drawn and quartered otherwise...

No luck involved, just my honest observation.

[Phil47uk]

Originally Posted by WildeStarr

No luck involved, just my honest observation.

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[Emicreami]

Originally Posted by Phil47uk

Yeah lot's of people thinks she looks like Nora Jones. Especially with that mass of dark hair and dark eyes and complexion.
What pisses my daughter off is that men can look like shit and be recognized for their talents, whereas women have to either half strip off or pretend they are vacent minded idiots.
I do agree with her there in many cases. She did a gig with another girl I know a few years back and boy can this girl play lovely guitar and also writes fantastic songs. And when I mean she's good..I mean she's bloody good. Unfortunately however, unlike my daughter who looks the part, ( In showbiz terms), this girl is very plain. Not attractive as far as most men are concerned. Doesn't have a bubbly personality and is quite shy.
Now when they came off stage men were flocking round my daughter like bees around a honey pot, which is fine in itself, but not one guy came up to the other girl and said.".Great playing". She basically just sat on her own. My daughter noticed this and tried to get her into the converstion and moved over to where she was sitting, but the guys just weren't interested and totally ignored her. My daughter got quite angry about it after the gig and said it's not fair on many women musicians, because most of these men are relly not interested in what we have to offer with regard talent, just how we look.
I wonder just how many of us guys would like it, if some good looking guy came off stage with you after you had just played a blinding set only for you to be totaly ignored by every female in the house, while he gets all the acollade.

Women like male rock stars not because of their talent, but mostly because women are attracted to either power, popularity, or looks (or various combinations) Men are attracted to looks and youth. This will never change. Some great musicians are meant to be studio hired hands NOT popular stars, or even recognised outside of their peer group. It is time for women to acknowledge they are just as sexist, just in different (and maybe less obvious) ways.

If there are two talented female musicians and one is plain the OTHER will get the attention. ESPECIALLY if the plain one is also a shy introvert. And extraordinary aura, personality, presence, charisma, will usually trump looks anyway. And looks fades, talent blooms.

[rideski]

Originally Posted by Mr Insane

Is she the one who played guitar for Carrie Underwood at the Grammys?

Yes..that was her. She has played for PRS at the last few NAMM shows... She seems to have gotten in pretty good with them.
Personally I think she`s great....talent and beauty!

[Phil47uk]

Originally Posted by Emicreami

Women like male rock stars not because of their talent, but mostly because women are attracted to either power, popularity, or looks (or various combinations) Men are attracted to looks and youth. This will never change. Some great musicians are meant to be studio hired hands NOT popular stars, or even recognised outside of their peer group. It is time for women to acknowledge they are just as sexist, just in different (and maybe less obvious) ways.

If there are two talented female musicians and one is plain the OTHER will get the attention. ESPECIALLY if the plain one is also a shy introvert. And extraordinary aura, personality, presence, charisma, will usually trump looks anyway. And looks fades, talent blooms.

You are correct, but I still think most women look a bit deeper then most men do. Men are a bit shallow on the whole, especially when it comes to any form of contest with a woman. I have seen this girl I know blow ten bells of crap out of quite a few male guitarists and boy do they hate it. Then we get onto the competitive thing.. We could go on for hours like this.
Dead right about the power thing though.. I suppose most women wouldn't look at me twice walking down the road, but as soon as I'm on stage, I have just about every middle aged woman in the place smiling and flirting. I don't know if it's power, or if it's just that they like men who are artistic or different from the rest of the males in the place.
Now when they find that the singer is my daughter, women love that even more yet again. The Dad and daughter combination just seems to do something..Quite what I don't know.. They probably see it as some kind of reliability on my behalf.

But!.. having said all that, I still maintain women get a bad deal a lot of times in the music biz. I supose if many guys thought that they were only going to gain recognition with any females in the audience if they stuffed a tea towel down their pants...Had a six pack and a complexion like an Adonis, and fuck how they played, they'd probably get slightly pissed.

Then again there are people and there are people..It's all according to where you play. If you do gigs where the Neanderthals hang out and the women are just as thick, then you are going to get exactly that.
For decades I have had to play in all sorts of situations to earn a living.. Luckily now I pick and choose the gigs I want to do.
For example a guy rang me up a week or so ago and wanted to know if my daughter and I wanted a gig in some wine bar we know.
My daughter didn't want to know and I must say I wasn't that enthralled. Last time we played there it was full of drunk rugby players.. The last thing you need playing a poignant song with some areshole asking you if you play some Abba songs... Nah..Been there done that.. I'm choosey these days.

I mean imagine Eva Cassidy playing this at a bar full of drunk rugby players..
If we do a band gig, I'm not so fussy.. You can just drown any silly sods out..

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[LazyDays]

Originally Posted by Emicreami

Women like male rock stars not because of their talent, but mostly because women are attracted to either power, popularity, or looks (or various combinations) Men are attracted to looks and youth. This will never change. Some great musicians are meant to be studio hired hands NOT popular stars, or even recognised outside of their peer group. It is time for women to acknowledge they are just as sexist, just in different (and maybe less obvious) ways.

If there are two talented female musicians and one is plain the OTHER will get the attention. ESPECIALLY if the plain one is also a shy introvert. And extraordinary aura, personality, presence, charisma, will usually trump looks anyway. And looks fades, talent blooms.

I don't care how good looking some guy is, if he can't play, then I'm not going to keep listening just because of how he looks. Talent does count as far I'm concerned.

[Emicreami]

I am talking in general, and human behavior, not specifically any one person. You can observe what I am talking about.

[Adwex]

Originally Posted by Mr Insane

Is she the one who played guitar for Carrie Underwood at the Grammys?

Yes.