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Unread 05-18-2012, 08:20 PM   #31 (permalink)
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You ssssssssssshould sssssssimply have ssssssssspoken to it in Parsssssssseltongue, and asssssssked him to leave and not return.
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Those kinds of dogs are dangerous, they attack people all the time.
What? Boxers? I have two sets of yuppie neighbors with boxers for pets.
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Re: Not Fond of Venemous Snakes

Not the usual story I hear from you, but still a good one
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I love guns and red meat as much as the next guy, but I must say somehow I've survived many camping trips AND the streets of NYC and NEVER ONCE needed to shoot anything.
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Justice for copperhead Travon

I had kind of the opposite happen here last summer. My kids were out playing in the yard (one's a red-head). This pitbull looking dog (found out later it was a boxer) came into the yard and was walking towards my kids. I popped 3 rounds in the dog and tossed it into the woods out back. It was pretty crazy.
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Re: Not Fond of Venemous Snakes

Copperheads are the only snake I've ever come across
in the woods that will come at you unprovoked. (except for blue racer's, but they aren't poisonous)
I grew up in Mo. and during mushroom season you watched a 10' circle around where you were EVERY second. Those bastards run under the leaves and you
can't see them.

I'm not for killing anything without a very good reason, and I love snakes.
just not copperheads
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How's that? I'm not the one who shot an animal that was not an immediate danger to me or my family. In my story I was protecting 2 small children from what could have been an immediate threat.

Only difference I can see anyone being hung up on is that one is a snake and the other is a dog. Last time I check dogs were way more dangerous that snakes.
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I took my Boxer for a walk a few minutes ago. He stepped off the driveway into the grass and suddenly growled and jumped back. I looked and there coiled up and ready to strike was a large Copperhead. Well Mr. Copperhead got a quick introduction to Mr. 9mm! Tossed what was left of him in my burning barrel. A caution, to those that don't know, be very careful when you kill a venemous snake and don't pick it up in your hand. Use a stick or something. Dead snakes can still bite, and inject venom, long after they are killed. Not an old wive's tale but a very real fact. Has something to do with the nerves and muscles in their bodies. My Boxer was lucky and he didn't get bit. He should behave better as he owes me. Of course he'd tell you that he saved me by warning me the snake was there. Another word of advice, never believe what a Boxer tells ya unless he yells SNAKE! http://www.go2gbo.com/forums/Smileys/default/wink.gif ROFL

Oh, and another reason you should carry at home not just when going somewhere!
So does anyone call the cops when some random person starts shooting at a snake, Or is it just an everyday thing?
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I assume noting his location, he doesn't live in town, he's out in the sticks.
You can do whatever you want.
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My grandfather owned land in this area in the mid 50's, way before the
place blew-up. Ozark area, out in the sticks, ya, dont get lost driving around
there, you might run into someone's Uncle-Daddy that think's you've got a
pretty mouth
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Re: Not Fond of Venemous Snakes

I don't blame you for shooting it, Spirit, what with kids around and all.

Did you at least get to save the skin?
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I took my Boxer for a walk a few minutes ago. He stepped off the driveway into the grass and suddenly growled and jumped back. I looked and there coiled up and ready to strike was a large Copperhead. Well Mr. Copperhead got a quick introduction to Mr. 9mm! Tossed what was left of him in my burning barrel. A caution, to those that don't know, be very careful when you kill a venemous snake and don't pick it up in your hand. Use a stick or something. Dead snakes can still bite, and inject venom, long after they are killed. Not an old wive's tale but a very real fact. Has something to do with the nerves and muscles in their bodies. My Boxer was lucky and he didn't get bit. He should behave better as he owes me. Of course he'd tell you that he saved me by warning me the snake was there. Another word of advice, never believe what a Boxer tells ya unless he yells SNAKE! http://www.go2gbo.com/forums/Smileys/default/wink.gif ROFL

Oh, and another reason you should carry at home not just when going somewhere!
A pistol for a snake?!? Seems a bit overkill to me. Nothing a stick or a hoe couldn't take care of.
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I've seen hoe's take down a snake before
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How's that? I'm not the one who shot an animal that was not an immediate danger to me or my family. In my story I was protecting 2 small children from what could have been an immediate threat.

Only difference I can see anyone being hung up on is that one is a snake and the other is a dog. Last time I check dogs were way more dangerous that snakes.
A snake coiled up ready to strike is being aggressive and poses a threat. A similar move from a dog would involving snarling/growling/baring teeth. A dog simply walking up to children IS NOT A THREATENING GESTURE.

Can you comprehend the difference now, smart guy?
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River, my 9mm has saved me more than once. My choice to carry, your's not too. Just hope you never need a firearm cause you'll be outta luck it seems. My view is better to have and not need than to need and not have.
Stop lecturing me, dude. Your native American spiritualism schtick has worn thin. You were doing it so well, but you've worn it out, or run out of material, or both.

Just hope no one ever pulls that 9mm out of your holster and blows a hole in you with it. See what I'm sayin'?
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A snake coiled up ready to strike is being aggressive and poses a threat. A similar move from a dog would involving snarling/growling/baring teeth. A dog simply walking up to children IS NOT A THREATENING GESTURE.

Can you comprehend the difference now, smart guy?
A coiled up snake is a defensive position, kind of like a dog huddled in a corner showing his teeth, both just want left alone.

This dog wasn't growling and showing teeth....

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Stop lecturing me, dude. Your native American spiritualism schtick has worn thin. You were doing it so well, but you've worn it out, or run out of material, or both.

Just hope no one ever pulls that 9mm out of your holster and blows a hole in you with it. See what I'm sayin'?
you make a good case for a level 2 retention holster........I have changed this story in my mind to having killed the snake with a tomahawk and then proceeding to skin and roast its dead carcass over a camp fire.......
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A couple of years ago I was walking my flatmates dog in the park that was across the road from our house. I was walking on the path and the dog was just off the path in the scrub. All of a sudden she stopped walking and started to sniff around a bit, About 6 inches from her head was a redbelly black snake with its head raised off the ground.
First time I had ever seen a snake up close, Scared the shit outa me.
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Aparently you know little of Copperheads. They are one of the most agresive snakes on the planet. A health adult would likely survive a bite. Someone, such as I with a severe heart condition might not. A bite could easily kill a young kid. Snake running loose in your yard, you had best always be looking for it. Dead snake, a whole lot less worry.
That's funny. Last time I was in Tennessee my son fell on a copperhead. We were trotting side by side through the woods in front of my house and I told him to watch out for snakes and just as I said that he tripped and fell on a copperhead. I snatched him up and the snake slithered away. They have potential to kill but they are not the savage beasts people make them out to be. We were in his house so I didn't chase him down and kill him. No need for all that. However, they come to my house they get killed. I killed a water moccasin on my back porch last year with a rake. No need for guns blazin. It's just a snake.

I remember a story of my younger brother when we were kids. He was still in diapers, no older than 3. He brought an adult copperhead up to the house that he had killed by himself by the creek, grabbed the tail and slammed it on the ground a few times. LOL.

A few years ago there was a baby rattlesnake with very few rattlers that had gotten into the house. My grandpa got up in the middle of the night because the yorkies were barking at it. He stomped it to death. Barefoot.

About a week ago I got up early early for work and walked out to my car barefoot to get my uniform out of my car. I stepped on a snake that was about 1.5 ft long. I didn't even think twice about what kind it was. I'm sure I looked like a tapdancing elephant that had just seen a mouse but the snake really just wanted out of there. He slithered away asap. All I remember was it looked black and white striped.

All of the negative stigmas that comes from snakes stem from the bible with the story of Adam and Eve. Usually the god of a previous major religion becomes the enemy of the newest religion
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How's that? I'm not the one who shot an animal that was not an immediate danger to me or my family. In my story I was protecting 2 small children from what could have been an immediate threat.

Only difference I can see anyone being hung up on is that one is a snake and the other is a dog. Last time I check dogs were way more dangerous that snakes.


Only the venomous dogs.
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I probably would have done the same thing. But then again, I live in Texas, where Copperheads and Water Moccasins are everywhere. Contrary to popular belief, a large portion of those kinds of snakes are aggressive. I've personally been chased several times by snakes I didn't provoke, but they will just as easily leave you alone. If you think I'm biased, this is coming from a person who has owned several snakes and currently owns one.
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Then you've seen something that no herpetologist ever seems to witness.

Sorry but that's just not true. For instance, just recently I was watching a show on tv about venemous snakes, think it was on Animal Planet but can't recall for sure. The herpetologist made it a point of saying how agresive Copperheads are and how they often will go after you rather than try and get away. But regardless of what others say, or don't say, you are arguing with a man who's spent 58 years and counting in Copperhead country and who is talking from first hand experience. Not to mention that of family, friends and neighbors. Aparently Copperheads don't read what herpetologists write. You'll have to pardon me if I choose to rely on personal experience rather than something you've heard.

Engel, you and your son were very lucky. and I'm glad of it. As a kid a neighbor girl of 6 years old got bitten by a Copperhead while picking Blackberries and the poor kid died from the bite before they could get her to a hospital. Folks, just answer me this, if all snakes slither away when disturbed then why do so many people get bitten? Many from unwarily just stepping too close to one.
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Which breed of snakes does that?
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we have diamond back rattlers where i live, if you see a baby
rattler, time to run
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Which breed of snakes does that?
Brown snakes and Taipan snakes are known to chase people.
Thats in Australia though, Our snakes could beat your snakes in a fight
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Brown snakes and Taipan snakes are known to chase people.
Thats in Australia though, Our snakes could beat your snakes in a fight
Im actually happy about the fact that your snakes could beat our snakes in a fight.
But your in Australia and you guys have the most insane venemous creatures on the planet.
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Something is in my yard and won't leave despite repeated warnings? Don't care if it's a dog, snake or rapist, it's getting shot and I don't care what anyone thinks.....I've got a 12 yr old daughter; don't expect to come in my yard and not get asked to leave.
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The eastern brown is very common here, its extremely toxic,its very aggressive and can strike multiple times,they have been known to chase people but they dont size you up from 20 meters away and hunt you down lol.i'd be pissed off too if someone was tryin to clobber me with a shovel,thats when most bites happen.
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