Two more American troops dead... - Page 2

Thumpalumpacus · 03-01-2012, 04:17 PM

Well, that taught that printer!

teame1 · 03-01-2012, 05:06 PM

Sad news R.I.P

Gooner · 03-01-2012, 05:24 PM

It is sad news, there are soldiers from many nations in Afghanistan, and they are all suffering, I believe there is a plan to get out at some point and the whole idea of being there in the first place, I presume, was to depose the Taliban and stop the place from being used as a terrorist training camp, or was it retribution for 9/11? Not really sure anymore!

Thumpalumpacus · 03-01-2012, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Gooner

It is sad news, there are soldiers from many nations in Afghanistan, and they are all suffering, I believe there is a plan to get out at some point and the whole idea of being there in the first place, I presume, was to depose the Taliban and stop the place from being used as a terrorist training camp, or was it retribution for 9/11? Not really sure anymore!

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On 7 October 2001, Bush announced the first phase of the global war on terrorism, Operation Enduring Freedom. He dictated the theater strategic objectives when he ordered General Tommy Franks, Combatant Commander of Central Command to disrupt al Qaeda’s use of Afghanistan as a base of operations and to attack the Taliban military capability. In terms of campaign design, a discussion concerning the relationship of enabling and terminal campaigns helps understanding how Operation Enduring Freedom supports the global war on terrorism.

PDF link: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...DxMd8gQLFjZ8_w

An "enabling campaign" is a campaign which envisions the creation of conditions under which a terminal campaign may be successfully conducted. I believe that much confusion is caused by not understanding what role the war in Afghanistan plays. It isn't a terminal campaign.

Given that fact, and given the mission Gen Franks was assigned, and given that the Karzai government has had a few years now to steady its gait, I think it's fair to say we've enabled the opening of the terminal campaign in that country. To my mind, that terminal campaign, of assuring Afghanistan's long-term stability, can only be done by Afghanis. That's why I said earlier in the thread that this mission is obsolete. AQ/Afghanistan was disabled by 2002, and while there are still plenty of Taliban and sympathizers, their power is largely in the frontier with Pakistan and not subject to any application of military power anyway.

KP · 03-01-2012, 06:14 PM

Personally, I say fvck the Afghans. Tear everything down that we built and let them kill each other off.

Neofelis Nebulosa · 03-01-2012, 08:05 PM

Enough is enough. Drop Napalm on the poppy fields and GTFO.

winexprt · 03-01-2012, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Neofelis Nebulosa

Enough is enough. Drop Napalm on the poppy fields and GTFO.

Why would they do that? That would destroy one of the CIA's greatest sources of hard currency:

Amazon.com: The Politics of Heroin: CIA Complicity in the Global Drug Trade

bertzie · 03-01-2012, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Neofelis Nebulosa

Enough is enough. Drop Napalm on the poppy fields and GTFO.

Get everyone stoned and leave? Sounds like Vietnam!

KP · 03-01-2012, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bertzie

Get everyone stoned and leave? Sounds like Vietnam!

No, it does not. Movies are not real life. Just thought I would let you know.

Neofelis Nebulosa · 03-01-2012, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by winexprt

Why would they do that? That would destroy one of the CIA's greatest sources of hard currency:

Amazon.com: The Politics of Heroin: CIA Complicity in the Global Drug Trade

Mali principii malus finis.

bertzie · 03-01-2012, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KP

No, it does not. Movies are not real life. Just thought I would let you know.

You really need to lighten up man.

KP · 03-01-2012, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bertzie

You really need to lighten up man.

I will do that right after you get a clue. Like that will ever happen. As a Vietnam vet, I do not appreciate asinine remarks about my service.

lespaul01 · 03-01-2012, 09:17 PM

Slow down KP. Its a Guitar Forum/

KP · 03-01-2012, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by lespaul01

Slow down KP. Its a Guitar Forum/

Yes sir............. Not

It is none of your business what I have to say to the possum killer.

lespaul01 · 03-01-2012, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KP

Yes sir............. Not

It is none of your business what I have to say to the possum killer.

bertzie · 03-01-2012, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KP

I will do that right after you get a clue. Like that will ever happen. As a Vietnam vet, I do not appreciate asinine remarks about my service.

I'll get a clue when you get over yourself.

Sinster · 03-01-2012, 09:27 PM

Change the ROE... Kill on Site.. I'm all for peaceful resolution but they have killed 6 too many of my fellow country men. Start taking them out... Bomb the shit out of them with pig blood!

KP · 03-01-2012, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bertzie

I'll get a clue when you get over yourself.

What a sad life you must live.

bertzie · 03-01-2012, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KP

What a sad life you must live.

Not everyone is a grumpy old geezer like yourself. Don't worry though, statistically, you wont have to suffer in this life much longer.

twinrider1 · 03-01-2012, 10:26 PM

But now I'm not sure if this is still for Brane's printer of if it's KP pounding Bertzie. :-)

Rankelson · 03-01-2012, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GuitarToneFreak

Well, it's a drag - but at least it's in an absolutely necessary war that is making us safer with each passing day

Precisely
The Taliban Airforce and Navy could bombard The cities of continental United States at will,if we were not there
Their ICBM's can reach any point on the Globe

A Hornets nest is only a threat if you walk right up to it and systematically poke it with a stick

Lets take our stick,get away from these Hornets
Not let their citizens into the Western world
without Maximum scrutiny

Lets puts our troops on Border Control
and hunting down drug cartels and Internal subversives

your idol · 03-01-2012, 10:55 PM

Engel ....i know you see stuff like this and get a lil sicker than some of us. rather than address the news ill address the underlying...hang in there brother, 4 more to go.

lets hope they all come home safe and this sh!t stops. shame to lose those 2 soldiers

KP · 03-02-2012, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by bertzie

Not everyone is a grumpy old geezer like yourself. Don't worry though, statistically, you wont have to suffer in this life much longer.

With an attitude like yours, I am surprised you are still alive. My family history indicates I should live to at least 90 and most likely outlive you.

ZoomZilla · 03-02-2012, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by KP

Yes sir............. Not

It is none of your business what I have to say to the possum killer.

Possum Killer? What a wuss. Possums are easy to kill, they just lay there and play dead. I am the Armadillo hunter, try that out for size.

Don't take any crap from my little pony!

SteveGangi · 03-02-2012, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by KP

Personally, I say fvck the Afghans. Tear everything down that we built and let them kill each other off.

Take out all our people and all our supplies and all our equipment. Knock down and demolish our buildings, destroy our airfields and supply areas and fuel depots. If it can't be removed, destroy it. Don't give them a DAMN thing.

Notorious BFG · 03-02-2012, 12:35 PM

Dont argue with idiots KP, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

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