What is your family history

[Phil47uk]

Originally Posted by guido.c

No, but I may be asking them today that Im going to have dinner with them

Good idea. Fish for as many leads as possible. Good luck

[capitalalchemy]

I'm American, with family from the Fraser clan in Scotland, and I think those origins go back even further to France. Some Irish I believe. A lot of Native American and Spanish blood. My great,great,great,great,great,great (and more) grandmother was Pocahontas and her great grandson was John Randolph. My current cousins are the Judds, Ricky Scaggs *shutter* and Billy Ray and Miley Cyrus, and I learned a lot of this because there's a book called Sacred Wind that you can get in Barnes and Noble, about my dad's family. Even has picks of my grandfather about it. Its mainly about Cratis Williams though who was a cousin, and they made a movie about him called The Song Catcher, but I thought it was hideous.

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[Phil47uk]

Originally Posted by capitalalchemy

I'm American, with family from the Fraser clan in Scotland, and I think those origins go back even further to France. Some Irish I believe. A lot of Native American and Spanish blood. My great,great,great,great,great,great (and more) grandmother was Pocahontas and her great grandson was John Randolph. My current cousins are the Judds, Ricky Scaggs *shutter* and Billy Ray and Miley Cyrus, and I learned a lot of this because there's a book called Sacred Wind that you can get in Barnes and Noble, about my dad's family. Even has picks of my grandfather about it. Its mainly about Cratis Williams though who was a cousin, and they made a movie about him called The Song Catcher, but I thought it was hideous.

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Very impressive.. Pocahontas eh..

[shal1234]

isn't geneology like a pyramid? If i go to a deserted island with a wife and start a family, and the family just keeps reproducing (incest was normal in the old days probably), and there's no outside contact, then thousands of years later and a couple million people later, wouldn't everyone on the island be able to claim me as their relative?
I'm saying we are all decents from the same couple people, at some point in time, whether it be 2 thousand years, or 200,000. Correct me if i'm wrong.

[ReverendJWblues]

Yeah I'm pretty sure I can trace myself back to Adam.

[mmcquain]

My mom's side of the family is English (Jack and Robinson family trees)

My dad's side of the family is Scotch/Irish (McQuain)

The story goes that pretty much all the McQuain's in North America can be traced back to 1 of 2 McQuain immigrants from a few hundred years ago. My family tree has been traced back to a McQuain that come over to VA as an indentured servant under a man named Bodkins. Well, about 2 years into his 7 years of indenture work to pay for his passage, McQuain marries Bodkin's daughter (and gets to move into the "big house" and out of the servants' quarters). They ended up settling in what is now known as Bodkin's Ridge, VA and the family started moving out from there. My particular branch later settled in WV (Elkins) and my mom's house is on about 80 acres that was part of the original family farm at the turn of the last century. We even have some streets around my home town named after my family.

[Phil47uk]

Originally Posted by shal1234

isn't geneology like a pyramid? If i go to a deserted island with a wife and start a family, and the family just keeps reproducing (incest was normal in the old days probably), and there's no outside contact, then thousands of years later and a couple million people later, wouldn't everyone on the island be able to claim me as their relative?
I'm saying we are all decents from the same couple people, at some point in time, whether it be 2 thousand years, or 200,000. Correct me if i'm wrong.

Yeah that could work. But only surmising that you and your wife popped out of thin air.
If so, then one has to believe the Adam and Eve thing ( Which I don't )

I do agree though, that we are probaly more related than we'd like to think, simply because there were less people around a million years ago.

[Phil47uk]

Originally Posted by ReverendJWblues

Yeah I'm pretty sure I can trace myself back to Adam.

I think you are ribbing us Reverand..

[Phil47uk]

Originally Posted by mmcquain

My mom's side of the family is English (Jack and Robinson family trees)

My dad's side of the family is Scotch/Irish (McQuain)

The story goes that pretty much all the McQuain's in North America can be traced back to 1 of 2 McQuain immigrants from a few hundred years ago. My family tree has been traced back to a McQuain that come over to VA as an indentured servant under a man named Bodkins. Well, about 2 years into his 7 years of indenture work to pay for his passage, McQuain marries Bodkin's daughter (and gets to move into the "big house" and out of the servants' quarters). They ended up settling in what is now known as Bodkin's Ridge, VA and the family started moving out from there. My particular branch later settled in WV (Elkins) and my mom's house is on about 80 acres that was part of the original family farm at the turn of the last century. We even have some streets around my home town named after my family.

Interesting story mmcquain and an interesting name. Sounds very old English.

[arcanis494]

Originally Posted by Phil47uk

Now this is very interesting.
Iroically a whole load of Caplan's show up in my family tree. Do you have any first names.. Occupations..Home town names etc etc. I'll dig around and see what comes up.

I'll ask my dad when he gets home!

[Phil47uk]

Originally Posted by arcanis494

I'll ask my dad when he gets home!

Ask him if there was any Ralph Caplan married to Fanny Woolfovitch at the turn of the century with kids... Harrry, Josi, Henry, Minnie, Elizabeth, Arnie and Lennard. Probably in the UK at the time although originating from Kaunus in Lithuania.

[tarddoggy]

Originally Posted by Phil47uk

On the contrary, I find the native American indian history and culture fascinating.
One thing I would like to know though.. Why can't native Americans grow facial hair? I have always found that interesting.

Reminds me of the joke. A white settler comes up to an Indian and says " What did you call this country before we arrived"... "Ours", said the Indian.

not really,I can grow a decent beard and 'stache,I just dont have hair on my chest.My Dad was the opposite.

[Belzeebub]

I know nothing of my family's history prior to 1945. My parents never told me our family's origins or ancestors and ive got a feeling their parents never also told them much. fookin' losers.

[arcanis494]

Originally Posted by Phil47uk

Ask him if there was any Ralph Caplan married to Fanny Woolfovitch at the turn of the century with kids... Harrry, Josi, Henry, Minnie, Elizabeth, Arnie and Lennard. Probably in the UK at the time although originating from Kaunus in Lithuania.

I actually got some of it wrong. My dad doesn't remember what our real last name would be. The Caplans are his mom's family. His family is kinda of quarky and they don't keep in touch. His first Cousin is Nina Housenic ( phonetic madain name ). Whose mom was a Caplan and sisters with my dads mom, Gertrude.

One of my friends is the result of a few generations after one of Winston Churchill's affairs. His last name is Churchill

[FLICKOFLASH]

My parents were deep woods West Virginian but form 2 different mountains but I decend from royal British blue blood The Duke of Buckingshamshire

[IndianScout]

My great,great,great,great,great,great (and more) grandmother was Pocahontas and her great grandson was John Randolph.

[tarddoggy]

Originally Posted by capitalalchemy

I'm American, with family from the Fraser clan in Scotland, and I think those origins go back even further to France. Some Irish I believe. A lot of Native American and Spanish blood. My great,great,great,great,great,great (and more) grandmother was Pocahontas and her great grandson was John Randolph. My current cousins are the Judds, Ricky Scaggs *shutter* and Billy Ray and Miley Cyrus, and I learned a lot of this because there's a book called Sacred Wind that you can get in Barnes and Noble, about my dad's family. Even has picks of my grandfather about it. Its mainly about Cratis Williams though who was a cousin, and they made a movie about him called The Song Catcher, but I thought it was hideous.

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Pocahontas!!?? far out,man.I wish somebody had been around to document(without bias),the Trail.So far,Ive found 3 possible relatives and whole bunch of maybes.Its been a real bitch trackin' down Dads family.In a funny twist of fate,when he passed I was 9yrs.,my Mom had remarried and the new"dad"adopted me.I went from John Golden to John Caldwell...

[geochem1st]

Not meaning to hijack the thread, but it's geneology based. Does anyone know of any good sources to track where military people were stationed during WWII? My dad was with the USAAF stationed in the CIB Theater of OPs, he didn't talk very much about those times, and I should have asked more questions when he was still alive. I know he spent time in India and China, and Burma as well, but nothing on the specifics. Any help would be appreciated.

[Phil47uk]

Originally Posted by tarddoggy

not really,I can grow a decent beard and 'stache,I just dont have hair on my chest.My Dad was the opposite.

I can't remember where I read it, but having looked at many native American's in films etc, it's tru, you never see one with a beard or moustache, chest hair, or even a five 0' clock shadow for that matter.

[Phil47uk]

Originally Posted by FLICKOFLASH

My parents were deep woods West Virginian but form 2 different mountains but I decend from royal British blue blood The Duke of Buckingshamshire

I should keep quite about that with the locals if I were you. They'll be daubing red coat traitor on your door..

[Phil47uk]

Originally Posted by geochem1st

Not meaning to hijack the thread, but it's geneology based. Does anyone know of any good sources to track where military people were stationed during WWII? My dad was with the USAAF stationed in the CIB Theater of OPs, he didn't talk very much about those times, and I should have asked more questions when he was still alive. I know he spent time in India and China, and Burma as well, but nothing on the specifics. Any help would be appreciated.

Sorry, can't help you on that one geochemist, but if he was ever in England, you never know, I might be able to help from this end.

[b-squared]

Originally Posted by geochem1st

Not meaning to hijack the thread, but it's geneology based. Does anyone know of any good sources to track where military people were stationed during WWII? My dad was with the USAAF stationed in the CIB Theater of OPs, he didn't talk very much about those times, and I should have asked more questions when he was still alive. I know he spent time in India and China, and Burma as well, but nothing on the specifics. Any help would be appreciated.

You can try here--WWII Vet Forum--you can search, or ask other WWII vets for help.

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[geochem1st]

Originally Posted by b-squared

You can try here--WWII Vet Forum--you can search, or ask other WWII vets for help.

BB

Thanks I'll give that one a try. The WWII vets are getting fewer and fewer now.