vintage style tuners

kingofnima · 10-27-2008, 04:05 PM

Hey everybody

I am looking for a good set of vintage style tuners for my Epiphone Les Paul. does anybody know a good set??

LeadGuitarMtl · 10-28-2008, 12:15 AM

Kluson/TonePros all the way. Locking version or not is up to you of course. They have two versions though, the ones with the more "histroically correct" push-in bushings and the ones with the modern bolt bushings. I don't know why but the bolt-ones seem to hold their tune better. What machine heads do you have on there now?

kingofnima · 10-28-2008, 04:33 PM

I have the grover ones on it that came with it but I really don't like the look of them.
I searched a little more online and I heard that these:
Grover Deluxe Keystones at Stewart-MacDonald
well actually drop right in. But maybe the Tone pros are better?

ren2008 · 10-28-2008, 10:29 PM

the Grovers are pretty good. ratio 14:1 which is very decent for any rocker that changes strings every week or so. they also add a nice weight to the headstock since they are a little heavier than Klusons or Gibson Deluxes.

i think they require 10mm holes which fits right into Epi holes.

various brands offers that style of tuners and with various options such as Ivory instead of greenish plastic and Locking feature.... here's my opinion after trying them all over the years.

Klusons TP > Grover DLX > Schaller > Gibson DLX > Gotoh > Cheap rebranding (wilkinsons, GFS, Economy...)

and if you can handle the ugly look and can afford it, try some Locking Sperzel's.

hope this helps.
ren

kingofnima · 10-29-2008, 06:28 PM

THANKS!!! you really helped me !! I think I am going to get either the Grovers or the Klusons

thansk for helping

ren2008 · 10-29-2008, 11:13 PM

you're welcome! TP or grovers... hmm?

Klusons: best tuning machines out of the two in terms of precision and tuning, but they cost 20$ extra. People in the Les Paul community are also more familiar with them (might help if you ever get rid of your LP, i don't know...)

Grovers: better looking with the shinny nickel back (not the band) they also keep in tune pretty well and yeah, i have an aggresive attack on my strings when i play

Cheap Ones: don't!

unless your guitar is a vintage model , i wouldn't spend extra money for Ivory keystones, JMO

once again, hope this helps!
ren

BCRGreg · 10-29-2008, 11:18 PM

I sell lots of Klusons, and use them on my guitars.

I just replaced the Sperzels lockers on my US Masters signature.

10-27-2008, 04:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
kingofnima Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 100 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	vintage style tuners Hey everybody I am looking for a good set of vintage style tuners for my Epiphone Les Paul. does anybody know a good set?? __________________ Guitars: 07 Epiphone Les Paul standard limited edition candy apple red (with a SD '59 in the neck and a SD custom 5 in the bridge) (RS Vintage electronics set) Ibanez GSA 60 Pedals: MXR 169 Carbon Copy analogue delay Big Muff NYC reissue Amp: Vox AD50VT 2x12 (FOR SALE!!!!!)

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LeadGuitarMtl Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Montreal Posts: 78 Thanks: 20 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: vintage style tuners Kluson/TonePros all the way. Locking version or not is up to you of course. They have two versions though, the ones with the more "histroically correct" push-in bushings and the ones with the modern bolt bushings. I don't know why but the bolt-ones seem to hold their tune better. What machine heads do you have on there now? __________________ Seb - ! ~ R n' Fn' R ~ !

10-28-2008, 04:33 PM	#3 (permalink)
kingofnima Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 100 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	Re: vintage style tuners I have the grover ones on it that came with it but I really don't like the look of them. I searched a little more online and I heard that these: Grover Deluxe Keystones at Stewart-MacDonald well actually drop right in. But maybe the Tone pros are better? __________________ Guitars: 07 Epiphone Les Paul standard limited edition candy apple red (with a SD '59 in the neck and a SD custom 5 in the bridge) (RS Vintage electronics set) Ibanez GSA 60 Pedals: MXR 169 Carbon Copy analogue delay Big Muff NYC reissue Amp: Vox AD50VT 2x12 (FOR SALE!!!!!)

10-28-2008, 10:29 PM	#4 (permalink)
ren2008 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 111 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: vintage style tuners the Grovers are pretty good. ratio 14:1 which is very decent for any rocker that changes strings every week or so. they also add a nice weight to the headstock since they are a little heavier than Klusons or Gibson Deluxes. i think they require 10mm holes which fits right into Epi holes. various brands offers that style of tuners and with various options such as Ivory instead of greenish plastic and Locking feature.... here's my opinion after trying them all over the years. Klusons TP > Grover DLX > Schaller > Gibson DLX > Gotoh > Cheap rebranding (wilkinsons, GFS, Economy...) and if you can handle the ugly look and can afford it, try some Locking Sperzel's. hope this helps. ren

10-29-2008, 06:28 PM	#5 (permalink)
kingofnima Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 100 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	Re: vintage style tuners THANKS!!! you really helped me !! I think I am going to get either the Grovers or the Klusons thansk for helping __________________ Guitars: 07 Epiphone Les Paul standard limited edition candy apple red (with a SD '59 in the neck and a SD custom 5 in the bridge) (RS Vintage electronics set) Ibanez GSA 60 Pedals: MXR 169 Carbon Copy analogue delay Big Muff NYC reissue Amp: Vox AD50VT 2x12 (FOR SALE!!!!!)

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10-29-2008, 11:13 PM	#6 (permalink)
ren2008 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 111 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: vintage style tuners you're welcome! TP or grovers... hmm? Klusons: best tuning machines out of the two in terms of precision and tuning, but they cost 20$ extra. People in the Les Paul community are also more familiar with them (might help if you ever get rid of your LP, i don't know...) Grovers: better looking with the shinny nickel back (not the band) they also keep in tune pretty well and yeah, i have an aggresive attack on my strings when i play Cheap Ones: don't! unless your guitar is a vintage model , i wouldn't spend extra money for Ivory keystones, JMO once again, hope this helps! ren

10-29-2008, 11:18 PM	#7 (permalink)
BCRGreg Grumpy Old Luthier Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,225 Thanks: 50 Thanked 123 Times in 26 Posts	Re: vintage style tuners I sell lots of Klusons, and use them on my guitars. I just replaced the Sperzels lockers on my US Masters signature. __________________ Cool guitars, extreme repairs and brutal honesty. www.bcrmusic.com www.grumpyoldmenband.com http://www.youtube.com/user/unkagreg www.ristguitars.com

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