Which WB Pickups for me?

nitrous12 · 10-23-2008, 09:56 AM

Ok,
I have 3 LPs. '07 Standard w/BB Pros, '07 Std Faded w/BB Pros, '08 Traditional w/57s.
The BB Pros in my '07 Std had some microphonic issues and I removed the covers, which helped but did not completely tame them. Compared to the Std Faded with the same pickup type they still squeal under settings the Std Faded does not.
So I am thinking about replacing the pups, but could use some recommendations on the WB line and what would fit into what I am looking for.
I play in a rock cover band. We do everything from AC/DC and GnR to 80s Hair Metal like Poison and Whitesnake to 90s rock like AIC, STP, Lit...etc.
I play through a modified DSL50 that is voiced a bit more like a JCM800. I use a fair amount of gain.
In selecting a new pickup I would like to have about the same output as the BB Pros and 57s that will remain in the other 2 guitars so I hit the front of the amp about the same when switching between guitars.

All that said I was thinking either the VTPs or Firewaters would fit the bill.

Thoughts?

5F6-A · 10-23-2008, 10:22 AM

Habaneros ... maybe the new hotter version? they have plenty of power and personality to play those styles you mentioned.

***b-squared*** · 10-23-2008, 10:23 AM

My first guess would be Firewaters...second Habs...

BB

nitrous12 · 10-23-2008, 10:32 AM

Are the Habaneros close to output of the BB Pros and 57s?

Bluesjam · 10-23-2008, 01:03 PM

Habaneros, I use a DSL 50 also and they sound great. But they also sound great thru my Fender Deluxe Reverb. After thinking about it, they sound great all the time.

Tom99SS · 10-23-2008, 06:39 PM

I talked to Will about the exact same thing for my '07. He suggested the Habaneros. Bridge is 9.45k and neck is 7.45k.

By the way BB Pros are roughly 8.2k for the Bridge and 7.7k for the Neck

Now just trying to find some good audio clips of these pickups so I can hear them

nwobhm · 10-23-2008, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrous12

Are the Habaneros close to output of the BB Pros and 57s?

I think the VTP would be closer in output to the 57' classics. The Habaneros would be little hotter but a good choice as well and wouldn't be too hot output wise. I have an H&G set closer to the vtph. I just got a firewater set from a forum member. I wasn't sure if I would like it, being as hot as it is but, unlike other hot pups it responds well to volume pot changes. It will do hard rock like AIC, White snake, I can turn my volume down to 9 or 8 and still get a good clear, vintage PAF tone. If you can use your volume knob on your guitar, I think the firewaters would be more versatile especially if your doin alot of 80's metal. I don't think you could go wrong with any of the others either.

808 · 10-23-2008, 08:50 PM

The best advice I could give you is to call Will and tell him what you are looking for in a pickup. He will give you the best option you are looking for in a pickup.

Now, I use the VTPH's and the BB customs. I like: Zep, Gn'R, AC\DC, Alice in Chains to blues.

nitrous12 · 10-23-2008, 10:00 PM

Thanks guys.

I did speak with Will today. Seems like a cool cat.

He suggested the Habaneros and explained it will be a bit hotter than the 57s, but not in a drastic increased output kind of way. Said it will equate to a thicker tone with more growl. Sounds good to me!

***b-squared*** · 10-23-2008, 10:04 PM

There ya go.

BB

stryker59 · 10-23-2008, 10:08 PM

i have the habaneros in my lp and absolutley love em!!

808 · 10-23-2008, 10:46 PM

Dude, you're not helping my urge to buy some Habs!!!

I would pull the trigger on them but I need another Les Paul to put them in!

Kickstand · 10-23-2008, 11:51 PM

Great!!! Now I want to try some habs...

captain tightpants · 10-24-2008, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 808

The best advice I could give you is to call Will and tell him what you are looking for in a pickup. He will give you the best option you are looking for in a pickup.

Now, I use the VTPH's and the BB customs. I like: Zep, Gn'R, AC\DC, Alice in Chains to blues.

Habs are great for all of these as well

!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrous12

Thanks guys.

I did speak with Will today. Seems like a cool cat.

He suggested the Habaneros and explained it will be a bit hotter than the 57s, but not in a drastic increased output kind of way. Said it will equate to a thicker tone with more growl. Sounds good to me!

The man knows his stuff, no doubt. He won't stear ya wrong!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by 808

Dude, you're not helping my urge to buy some Habs!!!

I would pull the trigger on them but I need another Les Paul to put them in!

DO IT!!! DO IT!!! DO IT!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kickstand

Great!!! Now I want to try some habs...

DO IT!!!!

Seriously, you won't regret it!

nitrous12 · 10-24-2008, 08:39 AM

Found this on youtube....video demo w/Habaneros:

YouTube - WB pickups:Habeneros Blues in A

You know my biggest fear is that I am going to love them and want 2 more sets of WB pups for my other 2 LPs. Damn GAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nitrous12 · 10-24-2008, 08:47 AM

And this cat....

YouTube - WB Habanero wanking #1

Also check out his other vids...two others w/Habs and a few with the 6707s

5F6-A · 10-24-2008, 09:37 AM

you are a phonecall to Will too short to get to tonal place you belong...

WBPickups · 10-24-2008, 10:53 AM

and these guys... Habaneros/ Both LP's

YouTube - CHRIS CORNELL Spoonman PEPSI 500

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkrBHqMyVRk

05hummer · 10-24-2008, 10:57 AM

I have the Habanaros and firewaters, cant go wrong with either, but I do prefer the firewaters. Dont let the higher output of the firewaters full you, they sound great without mud and have a nice thick sound to them..

coldsteal2 · 10-24-2008, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WBPickups

and these guys... Habaneros/ Both LP's
YouTube - CHRIS CORNELL Spoonman PEPSI 500

YouTube - Chris Cornell Like A Stone Live Pepsi 500

WBPickups · 10-24-2008, 11:14 AM

Edit here for this video. Pete's using his 6707's Hot's on this one. Yogi the Habs

YouTube - Chris Cornell Like A Stone Live Pepsi...

Same Les Paul with the 67's here...

YouTube - Suhr Badger 30 amp

Kickstand · 10-24-2008, 11:28 AM

That badger demo is what made me call Will in the first place! The man winds some tasty pickups! So far I've heard the 6707's, 5708's, vtph, and have the firewaters in my LP. Oh yeah, the Peter Greene's as well. I love those!

nitrous12 · 10-24-2008, 12:14 PM

Hmmm...there does seem to be a lot of love for the Firewaters.

Life is full of difficult decisions.

Bluesjam · 10-24-2008, 08:15 PM

Big John can sure make a pickup sound good.

Big John · 10-25-2008, 05:36 PM

Big John needs a little sun on those legs. Holy crap, those things are reflecting way too much light!

10-23-2008, 09:56 AM	#1 (permalink)
nitrous12 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: In a van down by the river Posts: 243 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Which WB Pickups for me? Ok, I have 3 LPs. '07 Standard w/BB Pros, '07 Std Faded w/BB Pros, '08 Traditional w/57s. The BB Pros in my '07 Std had some microphonic issues and I removed the covers, which helped but did not completely tame them. Compared to the Std Faded with the same pickup type they still squeal under settings the Std Faded does not. So I am thinking about replacing the pups, but could use some recommendations on the WB line and what would fit into what I am looking for. I play in a rock cover band. We do everything from AC/DC and GnR to 80s Hair Metal like Poison and Whitesnake to 90s rock like AIC, STP, Lit...etc. I play through a modified DSL50 that is voiced a bit more like a JCM800. I use a fair amount of gain. In selecting a new pickup I would like to have about the same output as the BB Pros and 57s that will remain in the other 2 guitars so I hit the front of the amp about the same when switching between guitars. All that said I was thinking either the VTPs or Firewaters would fit the bill. Thoughts? __________________ '07 Gibson Les Paul Standard - Desert Burst '07 Gibson Les Paul Standard Faded - Honey Burst '08 Gibson Les Paul Traditional - Gold Top '01 PRS McCarty - Dark Cherry Burst '85 Kramer Baretta Reissue - Black Marshall JCM2000 DSL50 - FJA Modified Marshall 1960 Lead 4x12 Digitech GSP1101 w/Control 2 Martin Prototype Martin D45 www.downloadband.com

10-23-2008, 10:22 AM	#2 (permalink)
5F6-A Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The Guitar birthplace Posts: 1,996 Thanks: 27 Thanked 45 Times in 13 Posts	Re: Which WB Pickups for me? Habaneros ... maybe the new hotter version? they have plenty of power and personality to play those styles you mentioned. __________________ Julie & Shelley; my kind of heroines. read why... "The tyrant dies and his rule ends, the martyr dies and his rule begins." Sören Kierkegaard

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nitrous12 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: In a van down by the river Posts: 243 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Which WB Pickups for me? Are the Habaneros close to output of the BB Pros and 57s? __________________ '07 Gibson Les Paul Standard - Desert Burst '07 Gibson Les Paul Standard Faded - Honey Burst '08 Gibson Les Paul Traditional - Gold Top '01 PRS McCarty - Dark Cherry Burst '85 Kramer Baretta Reissue - Black Marshall JCM2000 DSL50 - FJA Modified Marshall 1960 Lead 4x12 Digitech GSP1101 w/Control 2 Martin Prototype Martin D45 www.downloadband.com

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Bluesjam Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Royal Palm Beach, FL Posts: 437 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Which WB Pickups for me? Habaneros, I use a DSL 50 also and they sound great. But they also sound great thru my Fender Deluxe Reverb. After thinking about it, they sound great all the time. __________________ Gibson 2001 LP Standard Honeyburst w/WB Habaneros Gibson Les Paul Studio Vintage Mahogany w/ WB Vintage Hot's Fender Jimmie Vaughan Strat w/ WB 6707's set#7 Marshall DSL 50 w/ 1960AX Fender Deluxe Reverb RI

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10-23-2008, 06:39 PM	#6 (permalink)
Tom99SS Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: IL Posts: 94 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Which WB Pickups for me? I talked to Will about the exact same thing for my '07. He suggested the Habaneros. Bridge is 9.45k and neck is 7.45k. By the way BB Pros are roughly 8.2k for the Bridge and 7.7k for the Neck Now just trying to find some good audio clips of these pickups so I can hear them __________________ '07 Gibson Les Paul Standard HCS w/ CTS 500K pots & Luxe BumbleBee caps '08 Fender American Standard Stratocaster 3-tone w/maple neck, w/o Delta Tone, Vitamin Q cap Marshall Vintage Modern 2266 w/ 425A cab

10-23-2008, 08:50 PM	#8 (permalink)
808 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Southeast Louisiana Posts: 883 Thanks: 9 Thanked 6 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Which WB Pickups for me? The best advice I could give you is to call Will and tell him what you are looking for in a pickup. He will give you the best option you are looking for in a pickup. Now, I use the VTPH's and the BB customs. I like: Zep, Gn'R, AC\DC, Alice in Chains to blues. __________________

10-23-2008, 10:00 PM	#9 (permalink)
nitrous12 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: In a van down by the river Posts: 243 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Which WB Pickups for me? Thanks guys. I did speak with Will today. Seems like a cool cat. He suggested the Habaneros and explained it will be a bit hotter than the 57s, but not in a drastic increased output kind of way. Said it will equate to a thicker tone with more growl. Sounds good to me! __________________ '07 Gibson Les Paul Standard - Desert Burst '07 Gibson Les Paul Standard Faded - Honey Burst '08 Gibson Les Paul Traditional - Gold Top '01 PRS McCarty - Dark Cherry Burst '85 Kramer Baretta Reissue - Black Marshall JCM2000 DSL50 - FJA Modified Marshall 1960 Lead 4x12 Digitech GSP1101 w/Control 2 Martin Prototype Martin D45 www.downloadband.com

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*b-squared* The Velvet Hammer Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: About 15 minutes from the LOU...(STL) Posts: 7,312 Thanks: 73 Thanked 14 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Which WB Pickups for me? There ya go. BB __________________ I use: WB Custom Pickups RS Guitarworks Electronics Jonesy's Caps My upcoming Game Addiction: http://www.blizzard.com/diablo3/

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stryker59 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: staunton, va Posts: 2,639 Thanks: 13 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Which WB Pickups for me? i have the habaneros in my lp and absolutley love em!! __________________ *you've been weighed, measured, and found wanting!*

10-23-2008, 10:46 PM	#12 (permalink)
808 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Southeast Louisiana Posts: 883 Thanks: 9 Thanked 6 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Which WB Pickups for me? Dude, you're not helping my urge to buy some Habs!!! I would pull the trigger on them but I need another Les Paul to put them in! __________________

10-23-2008, 11:51 PM	#13 (permalink)
Kickstand Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 106 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Which WB Pickups for me? Great!!! Now I want to try some habs...

10-24-2008, 09:37 AM	#17 (permalink)
5F6-A Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The Guitar birthplace Posts: 1,996 Thanks: 27 Thanked 45 Times in 13 Posts	Re: Which WB Pickups for me? you are a phonecall to Will too short to get to tonal place you belong... __________________ Julie & Shelley; my kind of heroines. read why... "The tyrant dies and his rule ends, the martyr dies and his rule begins." Sören Kierkegaard

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05hummer Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: N.E. Pa. Posts: 1,128 Thanks: 4 Thanked 6 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Which WB Pickups for me? I have the Habanaros and firewaters, cant go wrong with either, but I do prefer the firewaters. Dont let the higher output of the firewaters full you, they sound great without mud and have a nice thick sound to them..

10-24-2008, 11:28 AM	#22 (permalink)
Kickstand Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 106 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Which WB Pickups for me? That badger demo is what made me call Will in the first place! The man winds some tasty pickups! So far I've heard the 6707's, 5708's, vtph, and have the firewaters in my LP. Oh yeah, the Peter Greene's as well. I love those!

10-24-2008, 12:14 PM	#23 (permalink)
nitrous12 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: In a van down by the river Posts: 243 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Which WB Pickups for me? Hmmm...there does seem to be a lot of love for the Firewaters. Life is full of difficult decisions. __________________ '07 Gibson Les Paul Standard - Desert Burst '07 Gibson Les Paul Standard Faded - Honey Burst '08 Gibson Les Paul Traditional - Gold Top '01 PRS McCarty - Dark Cherry Burst '85 Kramer Baretta Reissue - Black Marshall JCM2000 DSL50 - FJA Modified Marshall 1960 Lead 4x12 Digitech GSP1101 w/Control 2 Martin Prototype Martin D45 www.downloadband.com

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Bluesjam Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Royal Palm Beach, FL Posts: 437 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Which WB Pickups for me? Big John can sure make a pickup sound good. __________________ Gibson 2001 LP Standard Honeyburst w/WB Habaneros Gibson Les Paul Studio Vintage Mahogany w/ WB Vintage Hot's Fender Jimmie Vaughan Strat w/ WB 6707's set#7 Marshall DSL 50 w/ 1960AX Fender Deluxe Reverb RI

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Big John ...with a big mouth Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: in the rain Posts: 1,403 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Which WB Pickups for me? Big John needs a little sun on those legs. Holy crap, those things are reflecting way too much light!