Clapton's Beano Burst

zoso304 · 09-25-2008, 12:39 AM

Hey Brothers! i was wondering does anyone have a clear picture of Claptons Beano Burst? did it had a plain top or did it have flame top? I can't tell from the pictures that i have seen.
Cheers!

TM1 · 09-25-2008, 12:43 AM

From most of the photos I've seen, it's pretty plain.

Phil52 · 09-25-2008, 06:20 AM

5F6-A · 09-25-2008, 06:52 AM

plain jane for sure

TNT · 09-25-2008, 07:04 PM

Has it was stolen. I wonder who has it right now...

heavybloozer · 09-26-2008, 05:30 AM

i believe it was 60s les paul, if i´m not mistaken

clapton AND peter green talked about how slim the neck of claptons les paul was-and i eman even the R8 or R9 with the slimmest neck is definitely not like a 60s
on the other hand: weren´t there different kobs (ususally) on the 60s ????

brimay · 09-26-2008, 05:54 AM

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weren´t there different kobs (ususally) on the 60s ????

Reflector Knobs.

heavybloozer · 09-26-2008, 03:49 PM

yeah brimay
the reflector knobs-though clapton bought this guitar 2nd hand so the pre-owner might have changed them-then again back in the day(which was the mid 60s ) i doubt that they did all that swapping
the vintage market wasn´t really developed and clapton got all his gear dirt cheap in comparison to nowadays prices(even when considering all the changes in income and econonmy et al)

5F6-A · 09-26-2008, 05:40 PM

Gibson could have used leftover bell type knobs in 1960 for some guitars....

BOBBO · 09-26-2008, 05:40 PM

Grovers ehhh ... I noticed alot of celeb Bursts have them !!! Think they are just more stable than Klusons for the road and keeping tune or maybe the old ones crumbled ???

Pooker · 09-27-2008, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by heavybloozer

yeah brimay
the reflector knobs-though clapton bought this guitar 2nd hand so the pre-owner might have changed them-then again back in the day(which was the mid 60s ) i doubt that they did all that swapping
the vintage market wasn´t really developed and clapton got all his gear dirt cheap in comparison to nowadays prices(even when considering all the changes in income and econonmy et al)

The Les Paul changes didn't happen on Jan.1 of each year -- It wasn't like today where they decide on changes for "next year's" model. There are plenty of overlap in specs between the years, such as small fret '59s, big fret 58s, big neck 60s, etc. The reflector knobs and fade resistant tomato soup bursting did not appear until towards mid 1960, which is also when the slim taper necks became more common (but NOT universal!).

We can only speculate as to what year the Beano burst was/is. Clapton claims that it was a narrow neck, but that doesn't really mean much. At the most we can guess that it was either a late '59 or early '60 due to the top hats, tailpiece position and doublewhite neck pup (making the relatively safe assumption that the pups and knobs are original to the guitar).

Regarding the figuring of the top, pictures can be very misleading. I've seen photos of uber-bursts that appear to be plain tops -- so much depends on lighting, angles, and the quality of the photo.

The bottom line is that we really don't know much about that magical guitar

heavybloozer · 09-27-2008, 12:08 PM

oh yeah i can agree with you pooker
good info you got there.

man that guitar and the sound ole slowhand coaxed from it is just so awesome.

TM1 · 10-01-2008, 02:03 PM

Peter Green said the neck on Eric's was much slimmer than his neck on his `59. Reflectors were used hit and miss after serial # 0 7100, which is fairly late in `60. Gibson always used up whatever they had in-stock before using new items and with any thing in production, there are lap-overs. One guys bench may have reflectors and the other guy may have bell knobs. All depended on who did the final assembly. Changes were not instituted immediately, but phased in.

Rotovibe · 10-05-2008, 10:09 AM

Are there any color pictures of the Beano Burst? I'd love to know how bright that top was.

zoso304 · 10-06-2008, 04:37 PM

Don't have any colour photos, but i have these.

zoso304 · 10-06-2008, 07:11 PM

anyone got colour photos of the beano burst?

skydog · 10-06-2008, 08:26 PM

A lot of scenarios could have happened with the knobs. EC might have preferred the bell knobs. Or, might have broken one removing it and replaced them all. Or, as above, they might have come stock. Who knows?

goldtop0 · 10-13-2008, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by zoso304

anyone got colour photos of the beano burst?

No there are no known colour pics of the beano burst.And those top hat knobs you can pretty much assume were original to the LP which would make it a pre mid '60 guitar.

Revmuddy · 12-02-2008, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Phil52

Thank You for posting Beano...That's the best picture I have ever seen of it. It holds a graet Mystery for me today along with a reverence that is incomprehensible....Rev. Muddy YouTube - dennisdullea's Channel

Thanks again...Dennis

GuitarnLax36 · 12-02-2008, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil52

if only that was in color haha

mike newport · 12-02-2008, 08:22 PM

LOOKS plain...sounds UNplain...1960 fer sher...m

61LPSG · 12-02-2008, 10:01 PM

EC has said in more than one interview that it was a '60. I don't think they even know what the S/N was.
It certainly was "Magic" while it was around.

Danelectro · 12-03-2008, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Phil52

There are fairly distinct streaks on the last three fret markers. If anybody ever comes forth with the "real" Beano Burst, those may be the fingerprints that help to confirm its identity.

mike newport · 12-03-2008, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Danelectro

There are fairly distinct streaks on the last three fret markers. If anybody ever comes forth with the "real" Beano Burst, those may be the fingerprints that help to confirm its identity.

Good eye, sly...Hey I like yer handle...Danelectro. Yeah, SOMEbody knows where that axe is. If it ever surfaces, I wonder what it would take in...m

GuitarnLax36 · 12-03-2008, 03:25 PM

I think someone should start a NATIONAL WORLD WIDE search for the Beano Les Paul and make like a public group somewhere and somehow.
Yes I am serious

Oh and thank you to the guy who got this picture! I have decided to use it as my avatar if you guys dont mind?

banditguitarist1 · 12-03-2008, 07:09 PM

I'm sure whoever has the Beano burst probley has no idea what they even own, more then likely it was stolen and sold and sold again many times, anything else seems unlikely to me. For all we know some collector has it and has no idea! Or it could be sitting in a basement or could have broken the very night it was stolen in a car accident or something...The world will never know!

jonesy77777 · 12-03-2008, 07:50 PM

I don't think it would have changed hands much at all if it's intact. once or twice until they started to become harder to find. And if it ended up in the hands of someone who DID know what it was, then it won't be seen again in public.

banditguitarist1 · 12-03-2008, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jonesy77777

I don't think it would have changed hands much at all if it's intact. once or twice until they started to become harder to find. And if it ended up in the hands of someone who DID know what it was, then it won't be seen again in public.

well it could have changed hands alot it was stolen in the 60's and Burst's I don't think gained ALOT of value till the 90's or late 80's. Who knows the guy could have pawned it and someone bought it with no idea of what it was and the real owner still doesn't know!

Is there anything that could let someone who owns a burst know if they own this famous LP?

09-25-2008, 12:39 AM	#1 (permalink)
zoso304 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 385 Thanks: 2 Thanked 3 Times in 1 Post	Clapton's Beano Burst Hey Brothers! i was wondering does anyone have a clear picture of Claptons Beano Burst? did it had a plain top or did it have flame top? I can't tell from the pictures that i have seen. Cheers!

09-25-2008, 12:43 AM	#2 (permalink)
TM1 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 162 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Clapton's Beano Burst From most of the photos I've seen, it's pretty plain.

09-25-2008, 06:20 AM	#3 (permalink)
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5F6-A Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The Guitar birthplace Posts: 1,996 Thanks: 27 Thanked 45 Times in 13 Posts	Re: Clapton's Beano Burst plain jane for sure __________________ Julie & Shelley; my kind of heroines. read why... "The tyrant dies and his rule ends, the martyr dies and his rule begins." Sören Kierkegaard

09-25-2008, 07:04 PM	#5 (permalink)
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09-26-2008, 05:30 AM	#6 (permalink)
heavybloozer Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 216 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Clapton's Beano Burst i believe it was 60s les paul, if i´m not mistaken clapton AND peter green talked about how slim the neck of claptons les paul was-and i eman even the R8 or R9 with the slimmest neck is definitely not like a 60s on the other hand: weren´t there different kobs (ususally) on the 60s ????

09-26-2008, 03:49 PM	#8 (permalink)
heavybloozer Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 216 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Clapton's Beano Burst yeah brimay the reflector knobs-though clapton bought this guitar 2nd hand so the pre-owner might have changed them-then again back in the day(which was the mid 60s ) i doubt that they did all that swapping the vintage market wasn´t really developed and clapton got all his gear dirt cheap in comparison to nowadays prices(even when considering all the changes in income and econonmy et al)

09-26-2008, 05:40 PM	#9 (permalink)
5F6-A Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The Guitar birthplace Posts: 1,996 Thanks: 27 Thanked 45 Times in 13 Posts	Re: Clapton's Beano Burst Gibson could have used leftover bell type knobs in 1960 for some guitars.... __________________ Julie & Shelley; my kind of heroines. read why... "The tyrant dies and his rule ends, the martyr dies and his rule begins." Sören Kierkegaard

09-26-2008, 05:40 PM	#10 (permalink)
BOBBO MVP Clown Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: N.J. Posts: 12,611 Thanks: 83 Thanked 176 Times in 44 Posts	Re: Clapton's Beano Burst Grovers ehhh ... I noticed alot of celeb Bursts have them !!! Think they are just more stable than Klusons for the road and keeping tune or maybe the old ones crumbled ??? __________________ " Over the Pond Guy " Pickups & Rings ... Email for info @ OverthePondGuy@aol.com

09-27-2008, 12:08 PM	#12 (permalink)
heavybloozer Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 216 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Clapton's Beano Burst oh yeah i can agree with you pooker good info you got there. man that guitar and the sound ole slowhand coaxed from it is just so awesome.

10-01-2008, 02:03 PM	#13 (permalink)
TM1 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 162 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Clapton's Beano Burst Peter Green said the neck on Eric's was much slimmer than his neck on his `59. Reflectors were used hit and miss after serial # 0 7100, which is fairly late in `60. Gibson always used up whatever they had in-stock before using new items and with any thing in production, there are lap-overs. One guys bench may have reflectors and the other guy may have bell knobs. All depended on who did the final assembly. Changes were not instituted immediately, but phased in.

10-05-2008, 10:09 AM	#14 (permalink)
Rotovibe Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 22 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Clapton's Beano Burst Are there any color pictures of the Beano Burst? I'd love to know how bright that top was.

10-06-2008, 04:37 PM	#15 (permalink)
zoso304 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 385 Thanks: 2 Thanked 3 Times in 1 Post	Re: Clapton's Beano Burst Don't have any colour photos, but i have these. Last edited by zoso304; 10-06-2008 at 05:09 PM.

10-06-2008, 07:11 PM	#16 (permalink)
zoso304 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 385 Thanks: 2 Thanked 3 Times in 1 Post	Re: Clapton's Beano Burst anyone got colour photos of the beano burst?

10-06-2008, 08:26 PM	#17 (permalink)
skydog Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 382 Thanks: 5 Thanked 11 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Clapton's Beano Burst A lot of scenarios could have happened with the knobs. EC might have preferred the bell knobs. Or, might have broken one removing it and replaced them all. Or, as above, they might have come stock. Who knows?

12-02-2008, 08:22 PM	#21 (permalink)
mike newport Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Seattle area Posts: 581 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Clapton's Beano Burst LOOKS plain...sounds UNplain...1960 fer sher...m

12-02-2008, 10:01 PM	#22 (permalink)
61LPSG Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: In the shadow of TMI Posts: 688 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Clapton's Beano Burst EC has said in more than one interview that it was a '60. I don't think they even know what the S/N was. It certainly was "Magic" while it was around. __________________ Sometimes it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt...

12-03-2008, 03:25 PM	#25 (permalink)
GuitarnLax36 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: VA Posts: 197 Thanks: 14 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Clapton's Beano Burst I think someone should start a NATIONAL WORLD WIDE search for the Beano Les Paul and make like a public group somewhere and somehow. Yes I am serious Oh and thank you to the guy who got this picture! I have decided to use it as my avatar if you guys dont mind?

12-03-2008, 07:09 PM	#26 (permalink)
banditguitarist1 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: New Rochelle,NY Posts: 329 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Clapton's Beano Burst I'm sure whoever has the Beano burst probley has no idea what they even own, more then likely it was stolen and sold and sold again many times, anything else seems unlikely to me. For all we know some collector has it and has no idea! Or it could be sitting in a basement or could have broken the very night it was stolen in a car accident or something...The world will never know!

12-03-2008, 07:50 PM	#27 (permalink)
jonesy77777 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 138 Thanks: 1 Thanked 7 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Clapton's Beano Burst I don't think it would have changed hands much at all if it's intact. once or twice until they started to become harder to find. And if it ended up in the hands of someone who DID know what it was, then it won't be seen again in public.