What is he doing with the strings?

tpsreports2424 · 09-11-2008, 09:21 PM

Can anyone PLEAASE tell me what Ace is doing with the strings in this solo at 2:24 because I have never seen anyone do this and what the guitar does.

Thanks so so so so so much!

JasonC · 09-11-2008, 09:22 PM

Linkage?

tpsreports2424 · 09-11-2008, 09:42 PM

I feel like such an idiot haha

at 2:24

YouTube - Ace Frehley FULL Guitar Solo - Psycho Circus Argentina 1999

JasonC · 09-11-2008, 10:00 PM

It looks to me like he's playing a 2 note chord with hammer-ons, on the 2 low strings.. and then just sliding both fingers together. I'm not sure what you'd call that.. aside from "fcking around". hehe

I haven't listened to much Kiss, but man I gotta say that solo is very disappointing coming from one of the "legends" of rock.

***b-squared*** · 09-11-2008, 10:06 PM

Definitely not Ace's best work, IMHO.

It looks like he's got a couple of different things going on. It sounds like something he heard a bass player do, actually.

Fret the low E, 7th fret. With your right hand tap the A and D strings on the 12th fret...hold the notes and slide down one fret.

Another thing he does is fret the A string, 7th fret, and tap/hold the D string, 12th fret with the right hand.
Bend the A up a 1/2 step, then when lowering it, slide the right hand )12th fret, D string) down one fret.

It's making small chordal changes. Kinda jazzy, but he's playing SUPER sloppy, like he's high or drunk.

It's be easier to show you, but alas--no video gear.

BB

JasonC · 09-11-2008, 10:07 PM

No guitar gear here...

A tubeless amp and a pickupless guitar.

tpsreports2424 · 09-11-2008, 10:12 PM

damnn i thought he was playing some type of song because just the sound he is playing (as sloppy as it is) sounds amazing

JasonC · 09-11-2008, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tpsreports2424

damnn i thought he was playing some type of song because just the sound he is playing (as sloppy as it is) sounds amazing

Give it a shot though, see if you can come up with some variations on it. You'll need quite a bit of distortion.

tpsreports2424 · 09-11-2008, 10:34 PM

yeah i have been trying it and everytime i do i get A LOT of feedback like ace does too

lowe · 09-16-2008, 08:57 PM

Reminds me of this video

YouTube - Eric Clapton Shreds

***b-squared*** · 09-16-2008, 09:04 PM

HA! That made me laugh. I'm in a great mood tonight...thanks!

BB

lowe · 09-16-2008, 09:07 PM

Ace, or Eric?

VoodooHighway · 09-18-2008, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b-squared

Definitely not Ace's best work, IMHO.

It looks like he's got a couple of different things going on. It sounds like something he heard a bass player do, actually.

Fret the low E, 7th fret. With your right hand tap the A and D strings on the 12th fret...hold the notes and slide down one fret.

Another thing he does is fret the A string, 7th fret, and tap/hold the D string, 12th fret with the right hand.
Bend the A up a 1/2 step, then when lowering it, slide the right hand )12th fret, D string) down one fret.

It's making small chordal changes. Kinda jazzy, but he's playing SUPER sloppy, like he's high or drunk.

It's be easier to show you, but alas--no video gear.

BB

Actually, he starts on the 5th fret of the low E string.

Here's a rough tab of the moves he makes on the fretboard...

I'll only tab the 6th,5th and 4th strings to save space, but you should be able to figure it out:

12-------I---12--------(sl)11-----I--12---------(sl)11--9-11-9
-------------------------------------------------------------
5--------I---5 (bend & release)---I--5 (bend & release)--3-5--3

The last lick is extended down to:

------8
-------
------2

I hope that helps.

Take care,
Ace

VoodooHighway · 09-18-2008, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lowe55

Reminds me of this video

YouTube - Eric Clapton Shreds

I was thinking the same thing!

Maybe Ace Frehley is the person behind those "Shred" videos!

Take care,
Some other "Ace"

PMcG No.6 · 09-18-2008, 09:48 AM

Never been a huge Kiss fan. Never understood the fascination people have with them. He looked like he was playing like I do when I start falling asleep late at night while practicing.

citrixmeta · 09-18-2008, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lowe55

Reminds me of this video

YouTube - Eric Clapton Shreds

RROOFFFFLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Adwex · 09-18-2008, 01:28 PM

I love Ace, but I'm sorry to say......well,......uhhhh.....

'Nuff said.

Guido · 09-19-2008, 04:26 PM

woohoo argentina

09-11-2008, 09:21 PM	#1 (permalink)
tpsreports2424 Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 81 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	What is he doing with the strings? Can anyone PLEAASE tell me what Ace is doing with the strings in this solo at 2:24 because I have never seen anyone do this and what the guitar does. Thanks so so so so so much!

09-11-2008, 09:22 PM	#2 (permalink)
JasonC Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,339 Thanks: 24 Thanked 3 Times in 1 Post	Re: What is he doing with the strings? Linkage?

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tpsreports2424 Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 81 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What is he doing with the strings? I feel like such an idiot haha at 2:24 YouTube - Ace Frehley FULL Guitar Solo - Psycho Circus Argentina 1999

09-11-2008, 10:00 PM	#4 (permalink)
JasonC Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,339 Thanks: 24 Thanked 3 Times in 1 Post	Re: What is he doing with the strings? It looks to me like he's playing a 2 note chord with hammer-ons, on the 2 low strings.. and then just sliding both fingers together. I'm not sure what you'd call that.. aside from "fcking around". hehe I haven't listened to much Kiss, but man I gotta say that solo is very disappointing coming from one of the "legends" of rock.

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*b-squared* The Velvet Hammer Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: About 15 minutes from the LOU...(STL) Posts: 7,312 Thanks: 73 Thanked 14 Times in 6 Posts	Re: What is he doing with the strings? Definitely not Ace's best work, IMHO. It looks like he's got a couple of different things going on. It sounds like something he heard a bass player do, actually. Fret the low E, 7th fret. With your right hand tap the A and D strings on the 12th fret...hold the notes and slide down one fret. Another thing he does is fret the A string, 7th fret, and tap/hold the D string, 12th fret with the right hand. Bend the A up a 1/2 step, then when lowering it, slide the right hand )12th fret, D string) down one fret. It's making small chordal changes. Kinda jazzy, but he's playing SUPER sloppy, like he's high or drunk. It's be easier to show you, but alas--no video gear. BB __________________ I use: WB Custom Pickups RS Guitarworks Electronics Jonesy's Caps My upcoming Game Addiction: http://www.blizzard.com/diablo3/

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09-11-2008, 10:07 PM	#6 (permalink)
JasonC Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,339 Thanks: 24 Thanked 3 Times in 1 Post	Re: What is he doing with the strings? No guitar gear here... A tubeless amp and a pickupless guitar.

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tpsreports2424 Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 81 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What is he doing with the strings? damnn i thought he was playing some type of song because just the sound he is playing (as sloppy as it is) sounds amazing

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tpsreports2424 Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 81 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What is he doing with the strings? yeah i have been trying it and everytime i do i get A LOT of feedback like ace does too

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*b-squared* The Velvet Hammer Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: About 15 minutes from the LOU...(STL) Posts: 7,312 Thanks: 73 Thanked 14 Times in 6 Posts	Re: What is he doing with the strings? HA! That made me laugh. I'm in a great mood tonight...thanks! BB __________________ I use: WB Custom Pickups RS Guitarworks Electronics Jonesy's Caps My upcoming Game Addiction: http://www.blizzard.com/diablo3/

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PMcG No.6 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 851 Thanks: 8 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: What is he doing with the strings? Never been a huge Kiss fan. Never understood the fascination people have with them. He looked like he was playing like I do when I start falling asleep late at night while practicing. __________________ PMcG No.6's MySpace Last edited by PMcG No.6; 09-18-2008 at 03:22 PM.

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