Originally Posted by Barcham
But that's the rub, isn't it? IF you have a decent OD pedal which can cost as much as a small modeling amp all by itself.
The idea of starting out with a decent modeling amp is that you don't have to go through the expense of buying pedals on top of the amp. Especially if you are on a limited budget. The great advantage of modeling amps is that they give you a chance to experiment with numerous amp styles as well as effects. This way, someone can play around and find the sound they like and the effects that they will want to use instead of buying pedals that they end up selling at a loss afterwards because they don't like them.
When someone is getting started, there's nothing wrong with picking up a used Roland Cube 20XL or 30X or XL for $100-150 or so to get the hang of things. When they figure out what sound they're looking for, then they can move up to a tube amp if they wish to. I for one am extremely happy with my Vypyr 30 and my Micro Cube and have no intention or need to move to a tube amp and a shitload of pedals to enjoy my guitars.
for a bit of nostalgia, a Roland micro stack(I think that's what it was called) with 4 tiny speakers (3-5" speakers) was one of my first amps... sounded decent through a set of headphones, had a clean/dirty button and didn't drive my parents batshit with the volume. looking back that amp looked like an early version of the cube series.... just fewer buttons, and the logo and buttons were orange.... Roland makes better solid state amps, than a lot of MFGs tube amps. jazz chorus anyone?