Originally Posted by NoStatic
Myth #5 R9's Come with Real Bumble Bee Capacitors so there is no need for me to replace them, so why should I?
No, your R9 came with "Fake" Bumble Bee caps that contain a cheap little poly film capacitor buried on the inside of the pretty little plastic black case with stripes. Gibson does not use Real Bumble Bee caps in their reissues, and they are not even paper in oil capacitors. Luxe Bees are actually Russian K40y-9 paper in oil caps and have a very similar Tone to the Original Bees.
About the fake bumble bees- not disputing what you say, Ive heard it before and believe what you say is correct. I was looking at a new R7 recently and the shop was telling me what a tone monster it was and how it had original spec 50’s wiring and bumble bee caps. So clearly Gibson is out there selling this to its retailers, on onto customers.
If I were Gibson CS, to differentiate these guitars, increase the tone wanker factor and perceived value of the premium - high margin- product, if I would be selling R7-R0s with presentation box containing half a dozen different cap sets “exclusively sourced by Gibson CS for historical accuracy”, with tasting notes on each cap set and inviting owners to have their dealer (warranty issues no doubt) swap the caps at the owners pleasure for the life of their ownership. That would really appeal to the people who can hear differences in these things, and further differentiate the Custom Shop offering from the garden variety Gibson.
The shops would love it- it brings high value customers (they’ve shelled out '000's on a Gibson Custom Shop guitar after all) back into the shop and every retailer will tell you that “frequency of visit x customer relationship = increased sales.”
Poor form Gibson Custom Shop. IMO. YMMV.[/QUOTE]
There is actually an X-ray photo of one of the Fakes Bees posted around here at MLPF somewhere showing whats inside. And I think there is another pic of one broken open revealing the poly film cap that is on the inside of the Bee case. I think MLPF member 5F6-A knows where they are posted if I am not mistaken?
I am not sure why Gibson puts 5 cent caps in there $3,000-$5,000 guitars? I would think that they could at least offer some good Luxe paper in Oil Bee replicas as an option for those Players who really care about Tone?